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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Forgot Michiel:
    LOVE (sic) your Rennes Cathedral shots! All of them but the the last one even a little more...

    Sunglasses are perfect, aren't they?
    Or you can hide with a cam in front.......
    Sorry to hear about your virus Werner. I wish you both well!

    Thanks for your compliments on the cathedral. You're the expert! BTW It is Rouen

    Striking isn't it how many people cowardly hide behind there cameras on their avatars

    Here's one from the outside with a bit different colour pallete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Barry, a good one - forces me to get out of the bed and post!
    The second time this year some virus got me and my wife. She would not say i am quiet but rather i am "suffering"
    That's probably age related, in my case even the 5 is gone (the tint can not really cover!), im now version 6.0 , but the good thing we don't care TOO much about corners....

    Thanks for your comparison shots, lots of and great work!

    I am somehow in the same situation like you: I love (why such an erotic word related to a lens ??) my WA primes The 18,21 Distagons, the 15 Nikkor or the 24 TSE II not speak of Leica glass 35/1.4 R...
    I am sure i will use these lenses in the future (if i can stand up from the bed )

    But just count the weight of the said WA's and their size and take our age into account .....we have to adamit that the 16-35 is a tempting option and an option is that almost on par with great WA prime lenses. For me it is even the best FE lens Sony made so far.

    As Guy would say we are all (me included of course) "gear sluts" with a overdone relationship to photographic equipment. If i sometimes show my prints (yes i still print a lot and big) to people no one cares which lens was used or if the corners are track sharp. They tell me very fast if they like the print or not, only fellow photographers ask what lens, what cam etc...a little compulsive.
    Werner, I sympathize completely, our lady partners just donít seem to grasp how serious and complex our ďsufferingĒ is
    Only because itís impossible for them to actually contract Man Flu! Your wife must be suffering from something altogether different! Maybe she has contracted a common-or-garden cold.

    I think I have finally deciphered your age with the aid of an abacus. You basically have 2 more versions to catch up with Michiel (Speaking of which LR 5.7 is out).

    You are lucky...Tinting is a luxury that has passed me by some while ago...Iím more at the Weston meter invercone stage, if you get my drift.
    Iím sure I would care more about the corners if my failing eyesight could see them properly (what looks bad at 100% on the screen is not so bad when printed at 360dpi...I only ever print to A2, not super large like you and Michiel).

    I think I will keep the 16-35mm because it has so many pluses in itís favour...It gradually deteriorates at around 28mm, so the 28mm Distagon will stay and so will having a fast 35mm.
    Keeping the WATE is questionable...Iím still in two minds about it...I will see just which lens I gravitate towards the most.

    You have a lot more lenses than me to ponder over if you are considering thinning them out.
    If you are keeping the 16-35mm and you only want to lose one of those lenses, then the 18mm or the 15mm looks to me to be the obvious candidates out of your existing line-up...Thatís just my unasked for 2 pence worth.

    Thanks Re: The tests...It gives folks here some idea of what itís like

    100% agree with what you said above...We as photographers become technically obsessed with presenting our images as best we can, we are always looking to how an image can be improved, our eyes home in automatically to anything thatís not quite right with an image without even considering the image for what it is, where a non photographer is much more interested in the content itself and the first quick impression an image gives off and not the technicalities that went into making the image itself...Have you considered getting a Holga!

    Anyway struggle back to bed and get well soon my friend...Cheers Barry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Striking isn't it how many people cowardly hide behind there cameras on their avatars
    I stood to one side so you can't possibly be referring to me
    Pieter and f/otographer might want to be having a private word with you though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Haines View Post
    Pieter and f/otographer might want to be having a private word with you though
    Oh Brrrrrr.... Sorry guys; you have the right for your privacy as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Oh Brrrrrr.... Sorry guys; you have the right for your privacy as well
    So you should be sorry, what a terrible thing to say! You embarrassed Pieter into changing his Avatar

    This one was taken with the Sony 16-35mm FE at F8 Handheld with OSS on at 1/13th sec at the 16mm end.






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    Lovely light on the Looe River Barry.
    This picture also demonstrates why corner sharpness is usually not needed and much overrated
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    Barry, Michiel, and Werner: your excellent handheld technique is really starting to get on my nerves.
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    Many thanks Pieter...Situations like this and it's easy enough to get away with a bit of softness going on in the corners.

    Doug...Just call us the 3 Amigos
    The OSS is pretty good it allows you a few extra stops for sure...Happy enough to use 1/13 sec handheld no problem.
    You was once thinking of getting the 16-35mm FE lens...I know you went with the Zeiss 21mm Distagon (Still the "King" of the 21mm's BTW IMHO) have you changed your mind?

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    Many thanks Pieter...Situations like this and it's easy enough to get away with a bit of softness going on in the corners.

    Doug...Just call us the 3 Amigos
    The OSS is pretty good it allows you a few extra stops for sure...Happy enough to use 1/13 sec handheld no problem.
    You was once thinking of getting the 16-35mm FE lens...I know you went with the Zeiss 21mm Distagon (Still the "King" of the 21mm's BTW IMHO) have you changed your mind?
    The 16-35 is looking pretty darn good, and I was certainly anxious to to buy it when it came out. But now that I have the Zeiss 21, I'm thinking of getting something like the Zeiss 35/f2 or 35/1.4 and calling it good. Most of my work is via tripod, and I find manual focus with a lens like the 21 so enjoyable. I may also wait to see what the Loxia 35 looks like. And I still have the Samyang 14 for the UWA stuff. Still, it's tempting though.
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    Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)

    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    Lovely light on the Looe River Barry.
    This picture also demonstrates why corner sharpness is usually not needed and much overrated
    Pieter, you look like 38
    I have been hiding behind a camera myself for years
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    Fun time with the dog and a Pentax 55mm f1.8
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwood View Post
    The 16-35 is looking pretty darn good, and I was certainly anxious to to buy it when it came out. But now that I have the Zeiss 21, I'm thinking of getting something like the Zeiss 35/f2 or 35/1.4 and calling it good. Most of my work is via tripod, and I find manual focus with a lens like the 21 so enjoyable. I may also wait to see what the Loxia 35 looks like. And I still have the Samyang 14 for the UWA stuff. Still, it's tempting though.
    Hi Doug, as you say if you are a tripod type person I would then personally stick with the 21mm Distagon. I'm sure that would give you a bit better IQ than the 16-35mm...OSS would not be that important to you.
    Cheers Barry

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    Still feeling bad, but the thread is cheering me up
    I am thinking about getting bigger sunglasses....
    Or better, using a LF Linhof in front of me for the Avatar....


    Comparison with the 21 Distagon has still to be done.
    I like the 21 a lot (and will not sell it) but it is not without faults i.e. it has mustache distortion and some CA's in the outer areas. Corners are really good but not without any faults.
    IMO the corners of the Sony are very good for a zoom, for almost all shooting situations sufficient. Not only "sky and water"


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    Michiel, sorry for mixing up Rouen and Rennes, must have been the fever and the wish to visit Bretange again.....

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    Sorry Werner, but Rouen ist not Brittany.
    The city is located in the Normandy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by f 1,0 View Post
    Sorry Werner, but Rouen ist not Brittany.
    The city is located in the Normandy.


    Yes but Rennes is, i believe

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    I Know, but i mixed up Rouen with Rennes and that is the capital of Brittany!

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    Just received a LA-EA4 today as in Australia you get a free adapter with every A7 series camera. A7S + SAL2875

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    Get well soon Werner! I can relate, my Lady Love imports such viral unpleasantries on a regular basis, hence I call it school-pest. I always had success with a few servings of Pott 54 (dark rum well known in Germany), hot as can be.

    Very beneficial is a small spoon of Manuka honey daily (MGO 250 is the right dose) to boost your system afterwards. Be aware though of fakes, the original is quite expensive and best to be bought in a "Reform house".

    Your HDR's have my attention. Would love to learn how you do them, as they really have what it takes, the natural look. Excellent.

    As for being past 50 and further, aetas volat, time flies, Marcus Tullius Cicero wrote in his Tusculanae Disputationes, and hey, you definately know that you're past 50 when you find yourself reading Cicero again and out of free will this time.

    Michiel, very cool news about your window dressing exhibition, I like your choice of material. Where do you let them print? Whitewall?

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    Hope you feel better soon, Werner.
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    Being ill is probably normal in these days.
    I got my 16-35mm now for 8 days.
    I just do not get to take pictures. Maximum of a few test shots in the living room.

    Too bad, because the lens is really great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Yes but Rennes is, i believe
    definitely

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    Michiel, very cool news about your window dressing exhibition, I like your choice of material. Where do you let them print? Whitewall?
    Hi Georg
    At Pixelprint here in Amsterdam.
    Very good quality and a very kind man. We check the files and test prints together to make the best final adjustments.

    BTW I am very surprised but no virus yet this year. W'll see how it works out after I picked up my grandson from kindergarten next week.
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    I am really beginning to like my recently acquired Summicron 35/2 on the A7r. It was a bit of a risk versus waiting for the Loxia 35/2 but I think I made the right choice.

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    Nice work Louis. After all the talk on the new 16-35 and a7II it's great to see some photographs again. In the end that's what it's all about

    Especially the cat is a nice bonus in the last one, but I like them all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    She is celebrated for saving the lives of soldiers from both sides without discrimination and in helping some 200 Allied soldiers escape from German-occupied Belgium during the First World War, for which she was arrested. She was subsequently court-martialled, found guilty of treason and sentenced to death. Despite international pressure for mercy, she was shot by a German firing squad. Her execution received worldwide condemnation and extensive press coverage.

    She is well known for her statement that "patriotism is not enough".
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    I am looking at your work for some time now, from your recent macros to the urban sceneries and more.

    You succeed to emphasize elements that are supposed to be obvious, and for that reason they are more than likely overlooked, or in other words, I feel you have an excellent sense for the "common blind spot”.

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    another picture from a recent small study

    'Portland Head Light, study 5' - a7r / Zeiss Distagon ZE 21

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    Thanks for all your best wishes! To be honest, it really helps, at least the soul!
    It's getting better fast....

    Thanks for the Honey tip, will be looking for it. So far we took Honey from the Swiss Alps....

    Georg: Thanks for liking my HDR's. I never liked the HDR look myself. I first started doing these when i joined the BW workshop with Harold Davis this summer. Although i did not like his HDR's , to overdone , i could find some good in this technic.
    My approach is pretty simple: I do 3 or 5 shots in 1 EV steps, automated with the 7R. Import to LR, do nothing in LR but to export to NIK HDR Effex and adjust there to taste. It is easy NOT to overdo, that's all. The final HDR can than be fine adjusted in LR. The other way is to open the single shots in PS layers and paint to the layers masks.
    Sometimes i get results, that resemble very close aggressive LR Lights/shadows etc adjustments. The DR of the sensor is really great.



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    Thanks Werner!

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    The A7S didnt miss a beat focussing in the dark, i was impressed. It missed a couple of shots but there was zero hunting and the focus lock was as good as in the middle of the day.
    A7S + Zeiss FE 35/2.8

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    Taken at the 16mm end at iso 1000






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    It's not the 16-35mm FE but the Minolta 17-35mm f2.8-4 will do the trick!

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    An unholy combination, but still fun: the Sigma 50-500mm OS (A-mount) via LA-EA4. The shot was taken handheld, on a ferry, at 500mm.

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    Having played around with the LA-EA4 for a few days now I find the AF lock speed is very close to the A7S but the adapter is much more accurate. I dont think its missed focus once yet.

    A7S + LA-EA4 + Sony 28-75mm f/2.8



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    Balcony in Mers les bains. A bit overprocessed in Topaz Clarity. I thought I could do it for this texture image.

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    Just received the 16-35 FE today... What an impressive lens...

    Here's a quick sample untouched..
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    'untitled' - a7r / FE 55

    hope all my GetDPI friends have a nice weekend!

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    I thought my Tamron 18-200 was broken but i heard a rattle so i shaked it a little then it started working. No PP straight from the A7S.

    At 18mm:


    At 200mm:

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    From my favourite lens the Zeiss Planar 50/1.4 ZF.2 used on the A7S.

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    "Walk In Front Of The Dom, Speyer"

    HDR 3 Shots +/- 1.5 EV
    The big curved lens collects every bit of light from anywhere
    in this case i like the flares. No lens corrections. Tripod o.c. (good to have the level in cam)




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    If i compare closely the shots from the 15 Nikkor with the new 16-35 FE the latter is much better in all aspects exept distortion. The FE at 16mm is better in the corners has better micro contrast/sharpness in the center, much less CA's only distortion goes to the Nikkor, it's practical free free of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onaujee View Post
    Just received the 16-35 FE today... What an impressive lens...

    Here's a quick sample untouched..
    That is one for the history books! I don't know if there's anything better than a Cupids chili dog. But I thought they had closed for good? Or is this one of the franchises?

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    Classic CNY November landscapes. A few shots on a cold walk around the Cornell Arboretum ponds. A7R with Leica R 50mm Summicron.







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    Londinieres, Normandy

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    A7s and various fast lenses








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    A7s and 50 APO


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    Had a splendid time today on an outing along the Cornish coast with Barry. Great company, lots of gear talk and fantastic photographic subjects. Thanks again, Barry!

    Here my contribution to the foghorn collection:

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    Sony A7R, ISO 400, 1/60 second, f6.3 hand held. Sony (Minolta) 28mm f2.8 lens. LAEA4 adapter to use "A"mount lens on the A7R. Shot in RAW, developed in ACR. ACR recognized the lens, even with the adapter, and had a lens profile for it. Thanks for looking
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