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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    British Virgin Isles, a7II, FE16-35 at 20 mm.
    Bill, guess you were escaping the nasty Ontario winter as well. Mine was taken in Antigua earlier this week.
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    Here are 4 from the archives. 4 shots, 3 lenses, all taken in the same field within a 20-minute span. I couldn't really decide what I was after that morning, and as you can see I still can't.

    All were hand-held, and are presented in the order they were taken.

    Pt. 1

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    ^^^They are all excellent Tom...I Like Pt. 2 the best of those four...Cheers Barry
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    Thanks Barry. Love the last one of your set. Seems as though you're putting the new lens to good use!
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    Thank you Tom...I think we both had rewarding days out
    I hesitated for a long time over the 70-200mm FE mainly because of one or two early bad reviews..Personally I think it's a great lens and am delighted with the results so far.

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    Barry: What do you think about the AF of the 70-200? AF would be the only reason to "upgrade" from my Canon 70-200/4 (an excellent lens).


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    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Barry: What do you think about the AF of the 70-200? AF would be the only reason to "upgrade" from my Canon 70-200/4 (an excellent lens).
    Hi Werner, It’s nice that I can return the favour as you have always very kindly answered all of mine in the past which I much appreciate.

    Well I did actually own the Canon 70-200mm F4 lens in the past in the latter “IS” image stabilised format but I sold it some 6 years ago, as you say it is/was an excellent lens but I have only ever used it on my ancient Canon 5D Mk1.
    From my distance memory they both auto-focused similar in terms of speed (near too far) and hunted on close-ups with low contrast subjects. i.e. Subjects without an edge to grip on to if you get my drift...I think looking back that was probably more to do with the cameras inability than the lens itself to respond fast...Please don’t get me wrong the 70-200mm FE is no slouch either on the A7R.

    My quick take is that the camera itself (A7R in our particular case) in terms of AF speed and lock on is probably crippling the very best that you can ultimately achieve from the Sony 70-200mm G lens...Judging by the A6000.
    I’m not familiar with the Metabones Smart adapters like yourself...but from what I have read to date that is the bottleneck/crippling factor of the AF performance on Canon lenses with Sony cameras.
    You might want to hang on just a bit longer if making the switch from the 70-200mm F4 Canon lens to the Sony equivalent if only to see if AF is improved on all native Sony lenses with the rumoured A7R upgrade...As I suspect that will be one purchase that you will be making

    I purchased mine from here (HK) and it arrived within a week...Good price.
    Panamoz Sony SEL70200G FE 70-200mm F4 G OSS E Mount Lens


    IMHO the OSS on the lens itself is well worth making the upgrade alone, together with weather sealing...You didn’t ask but in terms of IQ resolution I would have the Sony slightly ahead of the Canon...It is an impressive lens for sure with a nice rendering wide open at a lowly F4, that I would score slightly ahead or on par with the Sony 16-35mm FE...It's early days but I think it's that good!

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    Sorry OT: HK sellers!

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    Barry, Lovely this set of images.

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    ^^^They are all excellent Tom...I Like Pt. 2 the best of those four...Cheers Barry
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    The first one is my favorite : I like to see three (?) of hay and the way they are recessing further away. Plus the little clouds crossing the sky above the (?) of hay makes for a nice composition.


    Quote Originally Posted by frozenbb View Post
    Here are 4 from the archives. 4 shots, 3 lenses, all taken in the same field within a 20-minute span. I couldn't really decide what I was after that morning, and as you can see I still can't.

    All were hand-held, and are presented in the order they were taken.

    Pt. 1

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    Barry: What do you think about the AF of the 70-200? AF would be the only reason to "upgrade" from my Canon 70-200/4 (an excellent lens).
    I own both the Canon F4 and the Sony. I was deceived by the Sony : the Canon is more compact than the Sony; it is about the same length, but quite thinner and this makes mire difference than I thought it would. The Canon is also sharper, especially in the corners (at least, the copies I have got). About AF, it is of course noticeably faster than the Canon on the Metabones adapter. Apart of that, it can be a little slower to focus than the 24-70mm, especially at the long end and when the scene lacks a little contrast. To sum up : what one can expect from a long lens on a mirrorless camera, nothing either negative, nor positive.

    For instance, I'm considering selling these Canon lenses :16-35mm F2.8 v.1, the 24-105mm F4, the 50mm F1.4, which are all replaced by better FE lenses, but I will keep the Tamron 28-75mm F2.8, the 40mm F2.8 pancake, the Tamron 90mm F2.8 macro and, last but not least, the 70-200mm F4.

    If you ever get the Sony FE 70-200mm, I would be curious to know how your copies compare.

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    Thanks Annna. Apparently those four I chose are a bit of a Rorschach test, as my wife likes the 3rd the best.

    Back to the drawing board! =)

    Also, thanks to you and Barry for providing more info on the FE 70-200 - a lens I have long considered but can't quite make myself want to buy. I'm still hoping for a short, fast, native tele. The FE 90mm macro seems entirely boring, as macro lenses in the 90-100mm range are never light enough to be all-purpose options.

    (Note to self: auto-complete makes for interesting responses).
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    A7r + Sony 70-200 f4
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    A7r + 24-70mm f4
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    Barry: What do you think about the AF of the 70-200? AF would be the only reason to "upgrade" from my Canon 70-200/4 (an excellent lens).

    Adding to what others have said, I can't speak for the Canon. I've had the FE70-200 from day one, and was quite happy with AF on my A7 for anything but rapidly moving subjects (e.g. birds in flight). Things are much improved, AF wise, with the A7II.

    But if capturing action is required, I'll use the a6000, which is about as good at predictive AF as any camera I've owned. The extra FL from the crop is most welcome.
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    Went to The Late Rembrandt exposition in the Rijksmuseum. Really crowded! And really dark rooms, so 1600 ISO.
    This is "The conspiracy of Claudius Civilis" against the Romans. Never saw it in reality.
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    The lighting could be the invention of a photographer.

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    This is the outside of an art museum.



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    Bill, guess you were escaping the nasty Ontario winter as well. Mine was taken in Antigua earlier this week.
    Yes, I was in Antigua too, at Nelson's Dockyard. Just got back a few days ago. Wish I'd known you were there!
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    Tortola, BVI. A7II, FE70-200 at 200 mm. Despite some comments in this thread, I find this to be pretty good lens for birds in flight. I use continuous focus and high speed shooting.

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    Caribbean Blue (with a bow to Enya!).

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    Just got a Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 lens in E-mount. Have to get used to the lens, but I am liking the results:


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    A7r + Sony 70-200 f4
    What is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Tortola, BVI. A7II, FE70-200 at 200 mm. Despite some comments in this thread, I find this to be pretty good lens for birds in flight. I use continuous focus and high speed shooting.

    Kind of hard to argue with these results...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Tortola, BVI. A7II, FE70-200 at 200 mm. Despite some comments in this thread, I find this to be pretty good lens for birds in flight. I use continuous focus and high speed shooting.

    Hi Bill, lovely capture beautifully caught on the A7II
    Not sure if I was included here within your comment.
    The A7II I believe has improved AF for sure over mine and Werner's A7R. To be clear I was commenting on the A7R (As that is what we both own)..I would wholeheartedly agree with David that the A6000 has way better AF system than the A7R...The only point I was trying to get over to Werner was that the speed and lock on of the 70-200mm FE is dependent to some degree on which camera you happen to be using with this lens...I have not tried capturing birds in flight close up or at a distance and am still learning what this lens is capable of performing as I only received it this week...Personally I am delighted with the lens even on the A7R...I just hope that the A7RII gets improved AF over the A7R...Cheers Barry

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    Thanks friends for all the information about the 70-200...will stay a little longer with the Canon and the Metabones and wait for the new A7R II or A9. The AF with the adaptor is not really usable but for 95 % of my pics manual focus is more than ok.


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    You can add me as a fan of the 70-200 as well. On the A7S.

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    thorkil... It's the fortified city called Carcassonne in Southern France...That is the vineyard in the foreground...I like the treatment jaspat3
    Carcassonne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Thank you Barry!.....I would though have liked to see it without treatment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    Thank you Barry!.....I would though have liked to see it without treatment
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    To be honest without sounding disrespectful to jaspat3, it has been photographed numerous times before without any treatment added...It was jaspat3's choice of a pseudo watercolor treatment that I quite liked
    The treatment itself has separated it from the usual take...But everybody here knows I'm a bit weird as I like dabbling about with this and that

    Some normal looking shots with a quick Google search for you thorkil

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    Yes Barry I can see what you mean, and thanks.
    The city must be a very normal victim of turistshots
    And I could not resist and hesitate though to Google in advance, this unusual looking city
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    Georgian Bay is still frozen from shore to shore, so I'm posting this one to remind me that - one day - winter will end! (Technically it ends today in the N. hemisphere but the weather is apparently ignorant of that.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Georgian Bay is still frozen from shore to shore, so I'm posting this one to remind me that - one day - winter will end! (Technically it ends today in the N. hemisphere but the weather is apparently ignorant of that.)

    Virgin Gorda BVI, a7II FE16-35 at about 20 mm.
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    Bill,

    When my wife and I married, we went to Virgin Gorda for a 3 day mini-honeymoon (honey-asteroid?). It was January and the real honeymoon was going to be 2 weeks in Italy in May. Thank you for bringing back the memory of sitting on the beach saying "Oh My God! We're married!"

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    Another from Virgin Gorda. FE70-200 at about 135 mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    Bill,

    When my wife and I married, we went to Virgin Gorda for a 3 day mini-honeymoon (honey-asteroid?). It was January and the real honeymoon was going to be 2 weeks in Italy in May. Thank you for bringing back the memory of sitting on the beach saying "Oh My God! We're married!"

    I didn't get a camera until the first kid was on the way...

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    Well Matt, my wife and I first went there in 1979 for our 14th wedding anniversary. This year we went back - for our fiftieth! (Yes, she was a child bride etc etc...)

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    Kamikaze Pelican, Tortola, FE 70-200.

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    Thanks for the beautiful, warm beach/bird shots... It is snowing in NY, quick shot with CV 15mm ver 3 thru double glass window:
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    Well, the forecast is for rain here tonight!
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    ^^ nice sceneries DLP, I especially like the last one with the bold foreground, waterfalls and misty mountains in the back. I know it's New Zealand but it reminds me of Iceland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenbb View Post
    Here are 4 from the archives. 4 shots, 3 lenses, all taken in the same field within a 20-minute span. I couldn't really decide what I was after that morning, and as you can see I still can't.

    All were hand-held, and are presented in the order they were taken.

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    This one for me, I'm a sucker for golden light
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    A7R + FE55 1.8

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    A Walk in Frensham by christilou1, on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    ^^ nice sceneries DLP, I especially like the last one with the bold foreground, waterfalls and misty mountains in the back. I know it's New Zealand but it reminds me of Iceland.
    Hello, pegelli! This place is at the foot of a glacier, I think that is where the similarity is from.

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    Sony A7r CZ FE 24-70

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    Love this shot, Louis. Beautiful light, nice atmosphere.
    Is it just me, or is it getting harder and harder to take street shots where nobody's looking down at their phone screens!?!
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    7s, Sony FE 28/2, The Hague, Earlier today
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    Guarding the precious

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