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Fun With Sony Cameras
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
I'm using the Metabones III at present. Aperture control, IS, AF (very slow) and automatic focus magnification when the focus ring is turned all work fine with my Canon lenses.
Joe
Werner, what's been your experience with the Metabones IV adapter? I had to return two of them to B&H because they didn't work as advertised.
I'm using the Metabones III at present. Aperture control, IS, AF (very slow) and automatic focus magnification when the focus ring is turned all work fine with my Canon lenses.
Joe
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Like Joe I'm also interested how the 100mm ZE is working out on the new Metabones IV adapter in particular the automatic focus magnification when the focusing ring is turned (simply does it work or not, no need to elaborate).
I'm guessing that all the ZE lenses are chipped the same way. My interest is still in the ZE 135mm F/2 (And still the Leica 100mm f/2.8 R APO)...Cheers Barry
PS. Sorry to hear about yours Joe that's either very unfortunate or a problem needing to be resolved.
Many thanks Werner much appreciated.
Like Joe I'm also interested how the 100mm ZE is working out on the new Metabones IV adapter in particular the automatic focus magnification when the focusing ring is turned (simply does it work or not, no need to elaborate).
I'm guessing that all the ZE lenses are chipped the same way. My interest is still in the ZE 135mm F/2 (And still the Leica 100mm f/2.8 R APO)...Cheers Barry
PS. Sorry to hear about yours Joe that's either very unfortunate or a problem needing to be resolved.
Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Andreas
I rented the Otus and 2/135 ZE together with a MKIII adapter this weekend - no focus magnification when turning the ring. Aperture workes as expected.
Andreas
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Many thanks for that information Andreas, most appreciated...That was what I feared and I doubt that the Mk4 is any different from the Mk3...Cheers Barry
Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Barry, I think it's not fault of adapter - the lenses are fully manual and simply won't give the info to camera. The mount is designed for EOS, and Canon SLR don't need info when focus ring is turned... It might be different with upcoming manual Zeiss lenses for E-mount? We'll hopefully learn at Photokina in a few weeks (I will be there and also have contact to Sony and Zeiss arranged by German forum).
Andreas
Barry, I think it's not fault of adapter - the lenses are fully manual and simply won't give the info to camera. The mount is designed for EOS, and Canon SLR don't need info when focus ring is turned... It might be different with upcoming manual Zeiss lenses for E-mount? We'll hopefully learn at Photokina in a few weeks (I will be there and also have contact to Sony and Zeiss arranged by German forum).
Andreas
Ben Rubinstein
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
A7r, Pentax M85mm f2 @ f11
My first time ever shooting Hollywood lighting. Taken me a year to persuade this girl, one of my ex students, to allow me to photograph her, she 'hates cameras', hugely self conscious. I know harsh lighting might seem counter intuitive but here it has worked perfectly to show her in a way she is comfortable with.
A7r, Pentax M85mm f2 @ f11
My first time ever shooting Hollywood lighting. Taken me a year to persuade this girl, one of my ex students, to allow me to photograph her, she 'hates cameras', hugely self conscious. I know harsh lighting might seem counter intuitive but here it has worked perfectly to show her in a way she is comfortable with.
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W.Utsch
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Reg. the Metabones:
There is no focus magnification neither with the MK III nor with the MK IV when turning the focus ring on the lens. I think there is no information from lens to cam with the manual Zeiss lenses.
I have to press C1 for magnification. This is no problem for me.
With the Zeiss lenses the MK III only worked in the non green mode (= press the button on the adaptor with the cam on while adapting the lens with adaptor to the mount)
With the MK IV it works in "green mode" as it should. I have no problem with the MK IV and Canon or Zeiss ZE lenses i think the IV is better than the III.
Reg. the Metabones:
There is no focus magnification neither with the MK III nor with the MK IV when turning the focus ring on the lens. I think there is no information from lens to cam with the manual Zeiss lenses.
I have to press C1 for magnification. This is no problem for me.
With the Zeiss lenses the MK III only worked in the non green mode (= press the button on the adaptor with the cam on while adapting the lens with adaptor to the mount)
With the MK IV it works in "green mode" as it should. I have no problem with the MK IV and Canon or Zeiss ZE lenses i think the IV is better than the III.
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Many thanks both Werner and Andreas for all this info (In all honesty it’s highly appreciated by me, as I am around 250+ miles from London where most the decent camera shops are at).
So would I be right in saying zero ZE lens information (excluding camera/aperture control) is getting through from the lens to the A7/R/S cameras via the Metabones smart adapters 3&4?
I thought one of the benefits of the ZE lenses and smart adapter was that the aperture and focal length exif info (but not lens model) was still being relayed back to the camera via the chipped lenses?
(This maybe good news for lens profiles etc...) I’m not sure on this though???
Werner your Flickr/exif is coming up as 100mm @ F/2 on the MP, so just maybe this is an extra benefit over the ZF.2 mounts.
Sorry for banging on about it, I just wanted to be clear exactly on what is going on precisely.
Photokina not that far away now, Many thanks again guys...Cheers Barry
Same old technique....BLENded COlour and MOnochrome in Nik SE2 (I shall nickname for speed from now on = BLENCOMO)
Taken this afternoon at the local Gaol/Jail.
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Many thanks both Werner and Andreas for all this info (In all honesty it’s highly appreciated by me, as I am around 250+ miles from London where most the decent camera shops are at).
So would I be right in saying zero ZE lens information (excluding camera/aperture control) is getting through from the lens to the A7/R/S cameras via the Metabones smart adapters 3&4?
I thought one of the benefits of the ZE lenses and smart adapter was that the aperture and focal length exif info (but not lens model) was still being relayed back to the camera via the chipped lenses?
(This maybe good news for lens profiles etc...) I’m not sure on this though???
Werner your Flickr/exif is coming up as 100mm @ F/2 on the MP, so just maybe this is an extra benefit over the ZF.2 mounts.
Sorry for banging on about it, I just wanted to be clear exactly on what is going on precisely.
Photokina not that far away now, Many thanks again guys...Cheers Barry
Same old technique....BLENded COlour and MOnochrome in Nik SE2 (I shall nickname for speed from now on = BLENCOMO)
Taken this afternoon at the local Gaol/Jail.
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Barry, with Zeiss ZE lenses and the Metabones III, I get everything EXCEPT distance information and automatic focus magnification when the focus ring is turned. With Canon EF lenses, all functions are available to the camera including automatic focus magnification.
Joe
Barry, with Zeiss ZE lenses and the Metabones III, I get everything EXCEPT distance information and automatic focus magnification when the focus ring is turned. With Canon EF lenses, all functions are available to the camera including automatic focus magnification.
Joe
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Cheers Barry
Many thanks Joe for clarification
Cheers Barry
Guy Mancuso
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Barry it is good for lens profiles and does work in programs like LR. It will show your using for instance a Zeiss 35F2 ZE lens and will have profile for it. That was just a example. You get aperture, lens focal length and brand also in LR
Barry it is good for lens profiles and does work in programs like LR. It will show your using for instance a Zeiss 35F2 ZE lens and will have profile for it. That was just a example. You get aperture, lens focal length and brand also in LR
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
Thanks for that Guy, it was your review that you did awhile ago together with the 55mm FE and 85mm F1.4 Zeiss that has made me still want this lens.
With all these changes in Metabones smart adapters I was having a real problem seeing exactly what it was capable of doing (or not).
Thanks again Barry
Thanks for that Guy, it was your review that you did awhile ago together with the 55mm FE and 85mm F1.4 Zeiss that has made me still want this lens.
With all these changes in Metabones smart adapters I was having a real problem seeing exactly what it was capable of doing (or not).
Thanks again Barry
Guy Mancuso
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
I actually did not like the auto magnification feature and turned it off. Reason being with the 55 let's say if I just touched the lens it activated which I did not always want to happen. I just set a custom function for it. Some may like that with the FE lenses but it will not work anyway with the metabones . I need to buy the IV version now for my canon 17TSE
I actually did not like the auto magnification feature and turned it off. Reason being with the 55 let's say if I just touched the lens it activated which I did not always want to happen. I just set a custom function for it. Some may like that with the FE lenses but it will not work anyway with the metabones . I need to buy the IV version now for my canon 17TSE
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
) – Better to just custom function C1 as Werner said, that’s probably what most of us do anyway.
Likewise - I only use the auto magnification occasionally on my 55mm FE, as you say it can be annoying at times if you so much as slightly touch the focusing ring (comforting to know it’s available though should you need it
) – Better to just custom function C1 as Werner said, that’s probably what most of us do anyway.
W.Utsch
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
With an other Zeiss test lens: 50/2 Macro Planar ZE
The Zeisses are fantastic lenses. I tested the 100/2 MP, 50/2 MP and the 21/2.8 Distagon. The last one i would buy instantly. For the 50 and 100 i have the corresponding Leica R's (100/2.8 ApoMacro and 60/2.8 Macro) wich are different but at least on the same level.
Unfortunately Zeiss did not sell the test lenses (at test lens prices) the 21 would be mine. I don't know if it is better than the 19 R or the WATE but the copy i was using was just great.
With an other Zeiss test lens: 50/2 Macro Planar ZE
The Zeisses are fantastic lenses. I tested the 100/2 MP, 50/2 MP and the 21/2.8 Distagon. The last one i would buy instantly. For the 50 and 100 i have the corresponding Leica R's (100/2.8 ApoMacro and 60/2.8 Macro) wich are different but at least on the same level.
Unfortunately Zeiss did not sell the test lenses (at test lens prices) the 21 would be mine. I don't know if it is better than the 19 R or the WATE but the copy i was using was just great.
Michiel Schierbeek
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 and A7r series
This is important information! Thanks! My gut feeling told me already not to buy the Nikon versions of Zeiss lenses but the Canon ones. I never liked the Nikon mount.
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