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Fun With Sony Cameras
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Lucille
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
I can't stand the Zeiss 35mm f/2.8, I will tell you that the 35mm Zeiss f/2 found on the RX1 just destroys this lens, in everything in my eyes, the f/2 has more pop, more contrast, more character, and more MAGIC.
the Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 is a real yawner, I don't really get the 'hepkitty' look to the files, my signiture look. I know some love it, I don't, flat, dull, boring, uninspiring. I for one don't put
a lot of stock in this 'corner sharpness' argument. I do a lot of landscape stuff and it if soft corners weaken my images, my eyes don't really see it, as my images tend to draw you into the subject,
which I rarely put in the corners anyways.
My honest opinion is instead of spending the cash on the f/2.8, either step up to the Distagon f/1.4 or score a Rx1. If budget is a concern then get the 'great 28', the cheapo Sony 28mm f/2 prime and save some cash and yet gain some character. Of course this is subjective, and just my opinion.
Anyways, here are a few shots with the lens I dislike, the boring Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 on the Sony A7.
from the Alien capital of the World, Roswell New Mexico.
I can't stand the Zeiss 35mm f/2.8, I will tell you that the 35mm Zeiss f/2 found on the RX1 just destroys this lens, in everything in my eyes, the f/2 has more pop, more contrast, more character, and more MAGIC.
the Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 is a real yawner, I don't really get the 'hepkitty' look to the files, my signiture look. I know some love it, I don't, flat, dull, boring, uninspiring. I for one don't put
a lot of stock in this 'corner sharpness' argument. I do a lot of landscape stuff and it if soft corners weaken my images, my eyes don't really see it, as my images tend to draw you into the subject,
which I rarely put in the corners anyways.
My honest opinion is instead of spending the cash on the f/2.8, either step up to the Distagon f/1.4 or score a Rx1. If budget is a concern then get the 'great 28', the cheapo Sony 28mm f/2 prime and save some cash and yet gain some character. Of course this is subjective, and just my opinion.
Anyways, here are a few shots with the lens I dislike, the boring Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 on the Sony A7.
from the Alien capital of the World, Roswell New Mexico.
pegelli
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
But you need to help me, what does the term EMMET stand for, tried googling it but all I found were a few towns in the US and a lego figure
Great shot Barry, he really added some foreground interest :ROTFL:He walked right in front of me as I was taking photos (What a cheek!!!)...I considered pushing him out of the way but then realized I was an EMMET myself!
It takes one to know one
But you need to help me, what does the term EMMET stand for, tried googling it but all I found were a few towns in the US and a lego figure
pegelli
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
Have you tried shooting it side by side on the same subject with your RX1 to pinpoint the exact difference you see between the two lenses?
I can probably see what you mean in the first shot but I like the second a lot and it certainly doesn't look "flat" or "dull" to me.
Have you tried shooting it side by side on the same subject with your RX1 to pinpoint the exact difference you see between the two lenses?
Knorp
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
Google Emmet and Cornish ... :salute:Great shot Barry, he really added some foreground interest :ROTFL:
But you need to help me, what does the term EMMET stand for, tried googling it but all I found were a few towns in the US and a lego figure
pegelli
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
I knew they came in black and red varieties, never realized they could be blue as well
Thanks Bart, found it
I knew they came in black and red varieties, never realized they could be blue as well
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
Basically just a slightly derogatory term used mostly by the Cornish for tourist and more recently a incomer (which obviously applies to myself). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_(Cornish)
Likewise I liked Lucille's second shot very much...IMHO I would have liked it even more with a slight crop on the right hand side losing the distracting highlights, otherwise excellent. :clap:
Many thanks PieterGreat shot Barry, he really added some foreground interest :ROTFL:
But you need to help me, what does the term EMMET stand for, tried googling it but all I found were a few towns in the US and a lego figure
Basically just a slightly derogatory term used mostly by the Cornish for tourist and more recently a incomer (which obviously applies to myself). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_(Cornish)
Likewise I liked Lucille's second shot very much...IMHO I would have liked it even more with a slight crop on the right hand side losing the distracting highlights, otherwise excellent. :clap:
Michiel Schierbeek
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
Wonderfull shots Tom!
Wonderfull shots Tom!
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
You couldn’t have asked for a better quality of lighting than those louring skies looming over both of those seascapes...Excellent.
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This image could benefit from a crop but then I wouldn’t have had an excuse to use this crummy title :ROTFL:
Yes indeed two beautiful shots Tom ^^^
You couldn’t have asked for a better quality of lighting than those louring skies looming over both of those seascapes...Excellent.
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This image could benefit from a crop but then I wouldn’t have had an excuse to use this crummy title :ROTFL:
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
Yes, I’m about 2 inches taller than my older brother Gort from "The day the earth stood still" (1951 of course)
Many thanks Jim.
Yes, I’m about 2 inches taller than my older brother Gort from "The day the earth stood still" (1951 of course)
Michiel Schierbeek
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
Barry, you thought; and now I am going to stand in front of my own picture.
BTW I used to wear pants like that in the sixtys :grin:
Old lens, modern style.
Autumn in the Vondelpark, Amsterdam.
Barry, you thought; and now I am going to stand in front of my own picture.
BTW I used to wear pants like that in the sixtys :grin:
Old lens, modern style.
Autumn in the Vondelpark, Amsterdam.
Barry Haines
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
........................................It’s nothing to be proud of my friend :ROTFL:
So, is that you on the bridge doing a selfie just over a 100 yards away?...You could come a bit closer, there really is no need to be camera shy :ROTFL:
BTW...Nice lighting in both your pics, I personally prefer this version to the - Old lens, old style. (wide open) image...Cheers Barry
I’m sure you did Michiel
........................................It’s nothing to be proud of my friend :ROTFL:So, is that you on the bridge doing a selfie just over a 100 yards away?...You could come a bit closer, there really is no need to be camera shy :ROTFL:
BTW...Nice lighting in both your pics, I personally prefer this version to the - Old lens, old style. (wide open) image...Cheers Barry
Ron Pfister
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
Here another image captured with the 35ZA. Flare resistance is quite good...
Here another image captured with the 35ZA. Flare resistance is quite good...
Ron Pfister
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
And here yet another. It's not my favourite lens because it's fly-by-wire, but its combination of small size and consistently high IQ across the frame are desirable attributes, I find.
And here yet another. It's not my favourite lens because it's fly-by-wire, but its combination of small size and consistently high IQ across the frame are desirable attributes, I find.
frozenbb
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
But as you've shown, the 28 is certainly a capable performer. Here's a 'high-keyed' shot taken with it.
'Not an Old-growth Forest'
Lucille, I'm sympathetic to this argument, though only to a point. I think the rendering of the FE 28mm f2 is far friendlier to human subjects compared to the 35mm 2.8. However, where landscapes are concerned, I find the vibrant warm colors of the 35 much more pleasing than the cool, Leica-esque tones of the 28.
But as you've shown, the 28 is certainly a capable performer. Here's a 'high-keyed' shot taken with it.
'Not an Old-growth Forest'
Ron Pfister
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
And lastly this image where the focal plane is not quite where it should be. As a staunch proponent of MF, I naturally blame AF. It should have known where I wanted to focus, right?
And lastly this image where the focal plane is not quite where it should be. As a staunch proponent of MF, I naturally blame AF. It should have known where I wanted to focus, right?
Lucille
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Re: Fun with the Sony A7 Series Cameras( all of them)
I can take a ok picture with the 35mm f/2.8, but that lens sucks. The 35mm on the Rx1 really kicks it to the curb, anything you think the way over priced Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 does, the 35mm
Zeiss on the RX1 is far superior. Without question. This is why I dislike the boring, dull, and not vibrant colors from the 35 f/2.8, because my eyes have been spoiled by maybe the greatest 35mm
every made, the one found on the Rx1.
When I bought my A7 there was but a few lenses, the 35mm f/2.8 being one of them, so I bought it because I love 35mm, only to see in post how inferior this lens turned out to be compared
to the Rx1. As a result I think the 28mm f/2 is the better purchase, however, for anybody that wants the 35mm f/2.8, you can buy my pristine copy for $500 shipped. At that price it makes
a bit more sense, but for its asking price, it isn't worth it. I used the 35mm f/2.8 some more and will post some images soon.
Now this is all subjective, and I understand that many of you very talented photographers may disagree with me, but this is my stance, and I honestly believe that if I find 10 of you that love the 35mm f/2.8, and allowed those ten to shoot with the Rx1, that atleast 9 would come back realizing how much better the Zeiss 35 f/2 Sonnar on the Rx1 really is.
Now I know one is f/2.8 while the other is f/2, shoot em both at f/2.8 and the Rx1 still wins in a rout. Shoot em at any aperture, and the Rx1 wins.
I wanted to like that 35mm f/2.8, I have tried and tried, I keep coming to the same conclusion.... this lens, ISNT Hepkitty Approved.
I can take a ok picture with the 35mm f/2.8, but that lens sucks. The 35mm on the Rx1 really kicks it to the curb, anything you think the way over priced Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 does, the 35mm
Zeiss on the RX1 is far superior. Without question. This is why I dislike the boring, dull, and not vibrant colors from the 35 f/2.8, because my eyes have been spoiled by maybe the greatest 35mm
every made, the one found on the Rx1.
When I bought my A7 there was but a few lenses, the 35mm f/2.8 being one of them, so I bought it because I love 35mm, only to see in post how inferior this lens turned out to be compared
to the Rx1. As a result I think the 28mm f/2 is the better purchase, however, for anybody that wants the 35mm f/2.8, you can buy my pristine copy for $500 shipped. At that price it makes
a bit more sense, but for its asking price, it isn't worth it. I used the 35mm f/2.8 some more and will post some images soon.
Now this is all subjective, and I understand that many of you very talented photographers may disagree with me, but this is my stance, and I honestly believe that if I find 10 of you that love the 35mm f/2.8, and allowed those ten to shoot with the Rx1, that atleast 9 would come back realizing how much better the Zeiss 35 f/2 Sonnar on the Rx1 really is.
Now I know one is f/2.8 while the other is f/2, shoot em both at f/2.8 and the Rx1 still wins in a rout. Shoot em at any aperture, and the Rx1 wins.
I wanted to like that 35mm f/2.8, I have tried and tried, I keep coming to the same conclusion.... this lens, ISNT Hepkitty Approved.
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