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    Fun with the RX100 III

    Someone had to get this one rolling!

    I received mine today and have barely had a chance to shoot more then twenty frames but I REALLY like what I'm seeing and IMHO the EVF and tiltable screen make this a big usability step up from the Mk I, as does the new and better lens. I am pretty happy to give up the extra zoom reach in favour of the faster apertures and wider wide end. And the files look and feel really nice. Here's a macro shot, and a crop therefrom. More to come in the next few days.

    I'm off to Sweden on holiday next week and am seriously thinking of taking this camera alone.... it's just SO much FUN!



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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    I am enjoying this little thing an awful lot. Not much liking the files over about 400 ISO but that is as expected, and I don't like the A6000 any better. Also slightly wary of the very different exposures needed as compared to an A7R, in that you so often need -ive compensation of 1/3rd dialled in and the 'blinkies' are only mildly prone to panic early, versus the A7R where often you work with +1 stop and where the blinkies are close to useless.

    But like I say, great fun and honestly not significantly slower to work with than the 7 series. Tiltable screen very useful, files fairly pliant, and lens good enough such that up to about a 24" print I would at least as happily use it as an FE 24-70 F4 on an A7R as long as ISO is low.





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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    A couple indoors:



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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Great set of exemplars off this camera. Very nice look to the captures. The iso2000 shot is eminently acceptable for web posting. I wonder why you are not so happy with it over iso400?

    Anyway, thanks for posting.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    I totally agree about ISOs over 400. For web higher is fine, but at 100% they start to break down.
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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    A few people baulked at the price, but Sony keeps finding ways to improve the smallest RX - 290 grams of pure utility. Nice images, thanks Tim. Lovely colour and contrast in a good lighting camera. Colour in the latest Sonys is unwaveringly good IMO. They have worked out how to provide photographic results in a tiny camera. Safe trip.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Louis, Brad has answered it for me: in a 'spoil me rotten' world the files would look good on a retina display (about 220ppi) up to 3200 - and I'm sure that the technology will allow that one day. For now, given the fast lens and the extremely nice form factor, I can live with it and as you say designate 400+ files as web/small print only. I'd also say that the noise structure is about as nice as one could hope for. Overall I agree heartily with Philip though I would say that I have selectively tweaked the colours in LR on nearly all of these (with the exception of the one below).

    One thing to add: though the histo and blinkies are close to accurate, they do give the impression that one can't shoot a sunlit scene with shadow. However, with care, it is just possible to avoid blowing anything that matters. Literally 1/4 stop less DR and it wouldn't work for me but it does sneak in under the bar and that's all that matters.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    A few more...






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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Food for thought...

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Food for thought...
    Indeed... and I'm trying not to think about it!

    I have the Mk1 (with which I'm still mightily impressed), but the Mk3's EVF and constant aperture have set me thinking. Did you have the Mk1 or Mk2 before the Mk3? If so, how do they compare?

    Thanks for posting the shots - very nice.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Thanks, though I hope I can do a lot better than this when I get some interesting subject matter! I had the MkI and I think the output of the new camera is so similar as to be essentially the same, but the lens is optically better and the aperture improvements are useful. The show stealers, though, are the EVF and the tilt screen. Just great, even if the EVF view is a bit small.
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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Thanks, though I hope I can do a lot better than this when I get some interesting subject matter! I had the MkI and I think the output of the new camera is so similar as to be essentially the same, but the lens is optically better and the aperture improvements are useful. The show stealers, though, are the EVF and the tilt screen. Just great, even if the EVF view is a bit small.
    Thanks - I expected that the output would be roughly similar. Would you say that the EVF reasonably useable, even if "a bit small"?

    BTW, I've just realised that my comment on the "constant aperture" of the Mk3 was off the mark. It's actually f/1.8 to f/2.8... but that's still very nice.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    I'd say it adds a great deal of flexibility and is totally useable. Of course I'd like it a bit larger and it isn't great for spectacle wearers like me, but it is a real addition and I use it a lot.
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    Thanks - that's useful to know. But it also makes the Mk3 very attractive - so now, I've just got to exercise some restraint...

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    The thing about a camera like this is that you will have it with you when an opportunity occurs and as the old saw states, it is the camera you have with you that gets the shot!

    I find that all the time with the Ricoh GR and I bet you find the same with the RX100MkIII.

    I just hope this that this raises the game for all compact manufacturers - especially those who so rapidly abandoned optical viewfinders in their compacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    I just hope this that this raises the game for all compact manufacturers - especially those who so rapidly abandoned optical viewfinders in their compacts.
    +1 to this.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Hi Tim, thanks for an excellent user report, it certainly looks tempting. If I buy this camera, it will also be used for occasional video shots. Any experience regarding video quality?

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Arne, I'm afraid that I shoot video for about twenty seconds a year and really don't feel qualified to comment on how the quality and ergonomics hold up compared to the market. I'm not even convinced I could set all the options correctly, expose appropriately, etc etc.. Sorry!

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Sorry for the less than artistic subject matter but I thought I'd show a good example of DOF bokeh at 2.8. This was handheld.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Have spent a day with both the A7R and RX100 III in my bag, and am having more fun and getting more shots I like with the latter. Just sketches - I'll always go back if I can, when the light is right for the scene and with the most appropriate gear I can muster, but it encourages a free shooting style and so I've got a lot of quite pleasant sketches. Whereas two hours on a boat with the 70-200 F4 really p***d me off: I got about five shots I liked out of fifty and each one suffered either shutter shake or missed focus. Never mind, the RX was there to save the day...







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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    The RX100 III shots look great. I just received mine today. How are you post processing? Thanks.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Thank you! Processing is in LR and I start with sharpening 60/0.7/70/20 with no luminance NR for low ISO and 50 for higher ISO with 25 Luminance NR but then every image is tweaked a little. Clarity is usually +10 or 12 and I often selectively boost or subtract from individual colour channels in both saturation and luminance. I often also add a 'virtual' ND but in highlights only, to bring skies into better control. But every image varies...
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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Thanks Tashley You got me motivated to get out this week end and start shooting and give these settings a try. Keep up the posts!

    Any other RX1000 III users?

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    Great pics, Tim! Certainly nothing "small-camera-small-sensor-ish" about them. Seems to have very nice colours and quite a bit of 3D, too. But then, with the Ashley, is there any camera he couldn't make good pictures with ?

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    Sir, you are too kind!

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Nice stuff, Tim.
    Its hard to believe that not long ago the LX3 was one of the best compact cameras one could have...and it still would not fit very well in your pocket.
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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Honestly, for print sizes up to about 20" and at low ISO I think most people would be hard pressed to tell the M3 from the a7r. It really is good.

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    Travellin' light

    I travelled super light for our mid-year family holiday to far North Queensland (Australia). Just the RX100 III and my Ricoh GR. The Sony is a potent little camera.
    The lens is (possibly) better than the Zeiss E16-70 and FE24-70 zooms. IS works great (all images here were shot hand-held). And video quality, shot in XAVC-S, is sensational.























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    Re: Travellin' light

    Actually, I packed a third camera (my Lumix FT5) for this sort of stuff:





    This is the Great Barrier Reef. The RX100 III can't dive (yet).
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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    This camera is amazing!

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    It really is. People who haven't tried it, should.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Has anyone compared their pics to other cameras? I suspect this little guy punchs well above its weight.

    We need some more pics!

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Kamoulox,
    These are wonderfull - what type of post processing? Thanks.

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    You Know what? No processing! Just jpeg direct from the camera

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    Some very cool stuff around these parts What a wonder little camera.
    With all the new awesome stuff they've released these last years, Sony is really on fire. It's hard to argue that they're currently the most innovative digital imaging company around.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamoulox View Post
    You Know what? No processing! Just jpeg direct from the camera
    Yeah.. Please downsize your pictures before showing them : the max size authorized here is 1200 pixels in the longest dimension. When you don't resize, it is achieved by the JavaScript in people's web browser. So a) people won't be able to contemplate your picture at full size, but b) nevertheless people on a slow connection will have to wait hours before everything is downloaded and redimensioned. Not everyone is on a fast connection. I'm actually up in the mountains and on a mobile connexion which is both slow and limited to 5gb a month. So your pictures are really a bandwidth waste for me (and I'm here on this same slow connection for two months).

    Thank you in advance for taking more care of people like me on a slow connection.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    I upload on imageup and chose resize 640x480 for forum.

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    Steve Huff's Review

    Steve Huff's review is up. Here's an interesting snippet:

    "The way the RX100 III handles light and shadows can indeed be dramatic and very pleasing to the eyeits funny but there are times when the images I took with the RX100 III looked better in the final file over my Leica M 240 for resized web images! The color and smooth look is a signature of the RX100 series."

    The Sony RX100 III Review. The best pocket camera ever? | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    With my wife's new camera. Very enjoyable to use. I've never used a pocket camera before.

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    This camera is just........

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    I'll add my voice to the choir here. It's amazing!

    I'm heading to Burning Man and need to pack light. I was looking for something that would fit in a small belt pouch (along with other essentials), but I worried I might regret leaving the heavy artillery behind. However, after even casual testing, I can see this is a remarkable little camera.

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    Union Depot, St Paul, Minnesota

    Sony DSC-RX100M3 - ISO200, f4, 8.8mm (24mm equivalent)

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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Adobe has just released Lightroom 5.6, which appears to fix the bug with ISO 125 shots from the RX-100 III. (earlier versions made these shots look underexposed.)
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    Re: Fun with the RX100 III

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeEvangelist View Post
    Adobe has just released Lightroom 5.6, which appears to fix the bug with ISO 125 shots from the RX-100 III. (earlier versions made these shots look underexposed.)
    Has anyone installed this update? If so, is it working all right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erudolph View Post
    is it working all right?
    Working fine for me, so far.

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    Re: Travellin' light

    Operational question for video. I tried to shoot some XAVC-S video at the 120fps mode and it seems to be coming out in real time. Any thoughts on that?

    Also, out of curiosity, I wonder if there is a thread where people discuss their preferred settings for this little camera.

    Quote Originally Posted by lambert View Post
    ... And video quality, shot in XAVC-S, is sensational.
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