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You did not return either or sell them and start a thread why you did that?Well I've lived with both an A7 and A7r for the last year soooo I'm gonna say that I'm not mistaken.
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You did not return either or sell them and start a thread why you did that?Well I've lived with both an A7 and A7r for the last year soooo I'm gonna say that I'm not mistaken.
Nah... They're in a camera bag underneath a desk I'm typing this on.You did not return either or sell them and start a thread why you did that?
Yet if one is heavily into night/star photography one should know about these things. As for shutter shock; when I got my A7R I noticed it pretty much immediately. I had the light and flimsy APS-C 55-210 at the time and it vibrated like madman on tripod. Again, after studying stuff in internet I found a pile of nice antidotes and my A7R + LA-EA4 + 70-400 SSM2 setup now looks like this and it works ok while I wait for EFCS on high res sensorFair enough but anecdotal evidence of one person (real or otherwise) doesn't constitute a problem for all that SOME try to make it out to be. If that one guy didn't post about it then people wouldn't have such an issue... kinda like the shutter shock "issue." Few people would even know it existed if someone didn't go out of their way to create a mob of people that decided it was unbearable for them as well even when their longest lens goes to 200mm (which is very easy to handhold BTW.)
Gotta disagree here. Both RAW compression and shutter shock are "good to know" stuff for people considering these cameras; let them decide if they are an issue for their photography. And the fact that they have been made publicly known can have a contribution on Sony fixing them.That's the problem with many new electronics and the internet. People go out of their way to look for problems most wouldn't encounter in normal usage then demand a total redesign.
Well said. Fuji can issue a new firmware update every month, but the XT-1 will never have IBIS nor a video codec that will match Sony's XAVCs.I am really astonished about the replies here about the new A7 II.
Is it really so difficult to see what kind of a Milestone that 5 axis image stabilisation is ? Using the chip and allowing it for all 3rd party lenses as well ?
Hello - Good morning ? For that feature alone some other people would probably kill, respectively pay thousands of $ just to get their one important lens stabilized 4,5 stops !
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And probably that is only the beginning, I am pretty sure an A7R II with same specs will follow.
Firmware update...... people you are funny sometimes.:facesmack:
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What I'm referring to specifically is the compulsive nature of people spreading the potential issues around as a problem without ANY workarounds that affects ALL. That is a problem in itself.Gotta disagree here. Both RAW compression and shutter shock are "good to know" stuff for people considering these cameras; let them decide if they are an issue for them. And the fact that they have been made publicly known can have a contribution on Sony fixing them.
Or a FF sensor... or FF lenses... Without redesigning them... Which requires a new body.Well said. Fuji can issue a new firmware update every month, but the XT-1 will never have IBIS nor a video codec that will match Sony's XAVCs.
What I'm referring to specifically is the compulsive nature of people spreading the potential issues around as a problem without ANY workarounds that affects ALL. That is a problem in itself.
I agree that information sharing is a great thing but only when done responsibly. I've read plenty of posts of people who have never even touched an A7r (much less owned one) quoting something they read on the internet as fact for all. Again if it affects a particular person then so be it but I think those people are in the minority to be honest. There's a lot more people holding onto their A7r's than people selling them.
The IBIS and the shutter do it for me. Now for the wait.Well, I'm definitely in again on this one - hopefully this time I'll keep it.
The IBIS makes it a perfect candidate for use with R lenses (and of course any other longer lenses). 24mp suits me well.
a definite definite (very exciting).
Looking at B&H there are 14 native FE lenses available for purchase of preorder. That's all within one year's time. Seems like Sony is forming a strategy but people won't let them live their past down (not that I totally blame people for being skeptical.)This is all fine and dandy. The camera seems to be great, certainly better than the first attempt, and I would like to buy one. Time will show. Then I ask myself: What will I use it for? It will be a great body for all my excellent old Zuiko, Nikkor and Zeiss lenses of course. Great fun that can translate into some (hopefully) nice photos. And for travel and work too, just buying some of those great, new Zeiss AF lenses for this camera, like the.... hey, wait! There ain't none!
Well... not none, but still, it wouldn't be correct to talk about holes in the lineup. The current lens lineup reminds me more of islands in the ocean. I'm sure they are great, but wouldn't a portrait lens be kind of nice to have? Even Samsung has that. And Nikon? That ancient camera wizard that recently launched yet another museum-ready DSLR, this dying breed of imaging equipment that our grandfathers used. The last couple of years, they have launched 5 new f/1.8 primes for the 35mm format, spanning form 20 to 85mm. Do I need to mention m4/3?
I know there are workarounds. Adapters, including the use of A-mount lenses, and Guy who is successfully using his A bodies for professional goodness. But what's the strategy? Sony's strategy? We have seen so many great products from Sony through the years, and so many failures. And the failures mostly didn't fail because they were bad products. Rather the opposite actually. The Elcaset, the MiniDisc and the Memory Stick were all nice products and often better than the competition, but the product strategy behind didn't seem to work.
Now we have A-lenses for two different formats, E-lenses and FE-lenses. The total number of lenses would resemble those available for m4/3 and look almost impressive if they had all been for one mount, one format. But they ain't. One can of course always give them some slack for a system that is only a year old, but it isn't. The NEX system, which is what this really is, is fast approaching 5 years, and even in the digital universe, corporations the size of Sony have strategies that last longer than 12 months. Most of them anyway.
Remember when Sony, during some financial crisis a few years ago, announced that, due to the world recession, they would put LED TVs on hold? It took only a couple of hours before Samsung issued a press release stating the opposite. That was when Sony TVs disappear from the premium shelves of stores and were replaced by Samsung. It didn't take many weeks.
So I don't trust Sony. I trust their products. They are among the best money can buy. But I don't trust their strategies. Sometimes, I wonder if they have strategies.
To me then, the A7 II looks like yet another great hobby camera. Fine for professional use for those who can earn the cost within the lifetime of the camera, or the lifetime of Sony's FE strategy. But for my work, and living in a market where cost levels dictate write-down of five years rather than one, I might have to trust the old horses yet again, like Nikon and Panalympus. And then, if I stumble across some unexpected cash... the A7 II or III might be what I spend it on. I hope for that
Just my 2 baht...
According to Sony's homepage, there are 7 FE lenses available now of which 2 are primes. Any mirrorless camera can use adapted lenses. As for strategy, which one are you talking about? The Alpha strategy, the NEX strategy or the FE strategy?Looking at B&H there are 14 native FE lenses available for purchase of preorder. That's all within one year's time. Seems like Sony is forming a strategy but people won't let them live their past down (not that I totally blame people for being skeptical.)
This isn't counting the hundred of adapted lenses that people have access to. So I agree as a FF hobby platform or one for some pros the FE system works maybe better then anything else out there.
Not sure which one the 7th is but B&H has only 6 native FE lenses of which two are primes, one of them being not particularly fast.According to Sony's homepage, there are 7 FE lenses available now of which 2 are primes.
There is a power zoom.Not sure which one the 7th is but B&H has only 6 native FE lenses.
That's the seventh one, a very interesting lens, particularly for video. Apparently, that one isn't shipping yet either, so Joris is right; there are only six.There is a power zoom.