Pre ordered A7 II

[Vivek]

The price differential (EU vs Asia) concerns me and I will not buy one just for that reason. Sony ought to be given a (however tiny) message in Euros.

These are not in the "model a month" NEX price category.

 

[Annna T]

The price differential (EU vs Asia) concerns me and I will not buy one just for that reason. Sony ought to be given a (however tiny) message in Euros.

These are not in the "model a month" NEX price category.

I agree : in the US they say the price is about the same as the A7 at its introduction, but here they are offered at 300-400$ more than the A7 (100 CHF = 102$ and our prices always include an 8% VAT)

 

[pegelli]

Don't forget the prices in the US are always advertized w/o sales tax while in Europe the advertised prices include VAT. So the Euro price of 1799 (which is what CameraNu in the Netherlands is offering) is equivalent to $ 1843 w/o tax. Still about 120 € more expensive on this side of the ocean, but not so dramatic in my opinion.

 

[Vivek]

Pegelli, I stopped the US vs EU price comparisons. I do a Japan vs EU prices when the gear is all made in Thailand. 700 Euros is a huge difference (Asia/delivered vs Sony.nl; all net) for an A7s, for example. The outfits in Asia are selling them at a profit!

 

[pegelli]

Vivek, do you know what's the price of an a7II in Asia at the moment?

 

[jonoslack]

Interesting that at first it went on sale in the UK at £1299, and was quickly changed to £1599. (ie just about okay to irritatingly expensive). My dealer says that he will honour the original price. We'll see!

 

[Vivek]

Vivek, do you know what's the price of an a7II in Asia at the moment?

~1256 Euros or 989 UKP (amazon japan)

Amazon.co.jp

 

[pegelli]

Thanks Vivek, then you can even import economically straight from there.
With 6.8% import duty, 21% VAT and 30 € for paperwork (typical for Asia shipments) you have it here for about 1650 €.

Other option is to wait a half year, then we'll see those prices here I think (but then again Asia will have dropped also)

 

[Vivek]

I have developed a system to put my own price tags for a camera/gear given the specs and how the prices decline when price fixing (by Sony outfits in the EU) is removed. This means no purchase.

 

[Show Performance]

Upgraded LAE5 is a must so we can use all those AF points. If that was available I would use more ZA glass than FE.

I just bought the 50 1.4 ZA and it is a lot like the 85 but better wide open. If this was out I would buy back the 135 1.8 but I'm really after the old Minolta 200 2.8 high speed lens. I had that lens and it is a beauty.

I've got the Minolta AF HS APO 200mm sitting here on my desk. What a little gem it is. I use it to shoot my son's lacrosse and football games and it always delivers at half the volume and weight of a modern 70-200mm. Will be nice to add IBIS to it as well.

 

[Viramati]

Interesting that at first it went on sale in the UK at £1299, and was quickly changed to £1599. (ie just about okay to irritatingly expensive). My dealer says that he will honour the original price. We'll see!

Following you earlier advice I paid a small deposit with LCE and have mine fixed at £1299.99 which was a good thing as I now see they have raised the purchase price to £1599 as well

 

[k-hawinkler]

A7R persistent sensor spots (not dust, can't be cleaned, it's under the sensor cover): Sony Alpha/NEX E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

 

[Guy Mancuso]

This really is nothing new. It happens sometimes in production. Different problem but we have seen extra oil or lubricants on several bodies from different OEMs hitting the sensor. Nikon had major issues with the D600. My Leica's M8s had the same problem.

In this case send in for cleaning and describe what's going on.

 

[Vivek]

A7R persistent sensor spots (not dust, can't be cleaned, it's under the sensor cover): Sony Alpha/NEX E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

That was a misleading post! See my reply in the Leica thread.

 

[Bill Caulfeild-Browne]

Sony.ca is now accepting orders for Dec. 17th delivery...just in time to justify it to my wife as a Xmas present....

 

[Guy Mancuso]

Okay everyone update as we start getting orders shipped. We are getting close now. Hell I may just buy 2 of them. Lol

Just kidding

Also keep a eye out for the vertical grip as it is listed nowhere as of yet and some members really need one. ME

 

[dandrewk]

Looks like all pre-orders have been shifted two days. BH Photo now showing Dec. 11. I'm not sure if that's the ship date for new orders. It could be those that pre-ordered earlier will get the shipments a couple of days earlier.

BH does not show ship dates on their order tracking. Those who ordered from the Sony store, or even Amazon - does your order tracking specify a ship date?

 

[Chuck Jones]

I actually got to play with an A7II yesterday when my friend Paul Gero opened his early shipment. A very impressive camera, from just a first look. Feels good, better fit, finish, and overall responsive feeling vs. the earlier model. The IBIS works a treat, but the biggest impressive changes are the greatly enhanced autofocus and the XAVC-S and S-log2 for video. Absolutely worth the upgrade in my opinion!

Sony A7II: First Look at the "Duce" - The Camera Forum®

 

[jfirneno]

I actually got to play with an A7II yesterday when my friend Paul Gero opened his early shipment. A very impressive camera, from just a first look. Feels good, better fit, finish, and overall responsive feeling vs. the earlier model. The IBIS works a treat, but the biggest impressive changes are the greatly enhanced autofocus and the XAVC-S and S-log2 for video. Absolutely worth the upgrade in my opinion!

Sony A7II: First Look at the "Duce" - The Camera Forum®

Chuck:
I know this is a silly question after such a short use but can you compare its autofocus speed and accuracy to anything else?

Regards,
John

 

[Chuck Jones]

Chuck:
I know this is a silly question after such a short use but can you compare its autofocus speed and accuracy to anything else?

Regards,
John

No, and thank God.
The autofocus improvement is a huge difference. I don't own an A6000, only A7R & A7S, but having used one a few times I couldn't tell much of a difference with the A7II from an A6000, it is that much better. It is far superior to either of mine. I also like the way the focus points all light up and dance around highlighting where it is focused like the A6000 does. Still doesn't autofocus like a Nikon D4, but so much better than my A7R or A7S. I was very pleased, and placed my pre-order with a 16-35mm f/4.