iiiNelson
Well-known member
There's the 90 Macro in March and the Sigma 180/2.8 Macro in A mount if you want REALLY long. That Sigma is stupid sharp as well.
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New A7II Users Reports
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nostatic
New member
1/10s is pushing it but I used to shoot that with the EM5 and K20 way back when. I'd get some usable shots. Not sure that this IBIS is quite up to their implementation but it is a much bigger sensor and a lot more MP to show any blurring. The sheet music example certainly shows a difference.
My wife prefers the ergonomics of the old body. I need to mess around a bit between the two. I remember retraining my hand when I got the A7 so there is some muscle memory involved.
My wife prefers the ergonomics of the old body. I need to mess around a bit between the two. I remember retraining my hand when I got the A7 so there is some muscle memory involved.
barjohn
New member
I conducted an AF test on the A7M2 that I frequently try on new cameras to see how well they AF. It is a simple test and surprisingly many cameras show themselves to be slow doing the test. Until today I hadn't thought of a way to do the same test for low light performance.
The test:
1. I run the electronic stop watch
2. Every 5 seconds I fully depress the shutter which forces a full focus action (no 1/2 presses)
3. I do this until 50 seconds have elapsed (10 shots)
4. Look at each image, it should be in focus and add the times and divide by 10 to obtain the average.
With a bright screen display (my iMac screen brightness set to mid way), the 28-70mm FE kit lens set to 50mm and f4.5, I obtained the following averages:
A7M2 = 227ms
A6000 = 264ms (This was a surprise to me, I expected the A6000 to beat the A72)
Both cameras are set to DMF and flexible spot AF (m)
To simulate a low light situation it occurred to me that I could dim the display to the point I was shooting at ISO 4000 with the same lens at 50mm and f5.6
Here are the results:
A7M2 = 371.3ms
A6000 = 426.3ms
Pretty impressive times and response under both conditions. I have seen the A7M2 quickly obtain focus in light levels that the auto ISO selected 12,500 at 50mm f4.5. The A7 would have been hunting all over the place.
Any thoughts on the test methodology and how does this compare to what others are finding?
Also ran another test with the 10-18mm lens:
Ran the test with bright screen and A6000 using e 10-18mm at 18mm f4, ISO 200 light level and the results were: 229.4ms
Same setup on the A7M2 and the results were 202.4ms
This camera's AF is deceptively fast!
The test:
1. I run the electronic stop watch
2. Every 5 seconds I fully depress the shutter which forces a full focus action (no 1/2 presses)
3. I do this until 50 seconds have elapsed (10 shots)
4. Look at each image, it should be in focus and add the times and divide by 10 to obtain the average.
With a bright screen display (my iMac screen brightness set to mid way), the 28-70mm FE kit lens set to 50mm and f4.5, I obtained the following averages:
A7M2 = 227ms
A6000 = 264ms (This was a surprise to me, I expected the A6000 to beat the A72)
Both cameras are set to DMF and flexible spot AF (m)
To simulate a low light situation it occurred to me that I could dim the display to the point I was shooting at ISO 4000 with the same lens at 50mm and f5.6
Here are the results:
A7M2 = 371.3ms
A6000 = 426.3ms
Pretty impressive times and response under both conditions. I have seen the A7M2 quickly obtain focus in light levels that the auto ISO selected 12,500 at 50mm f4.5. The A7 would have been hunting all over the place.
Any thoughts on the test methodology and how does this compare to what others are finding?
Also ran another test with the 10-18mm lens:
Ran the test with bright screen and A6000 using e 10-18mm at 18mm f4, ISO 200 light level and the results were: 229.4ms
Same setup on the A7M2 and the results were 202.4ms
This camera's AF is deceptively fast!
I discussed why this is the case in a post here
nostatic
New member
So wrt ergonomics, the m2 feels more like a dSLR in the way that lenses balance on it and the edge sits in your palm (shooting one handed). The original A7 is more like a large point and shoot. I'm comparing RX100ii, a6000, A7, and A7m2 back to back and it provides kind of a weird Goldilocks in cameraland thing.
I feel like a Sony commercial. Now I just need to get hacked...
I feel like a Sony commercial. Now I just need to get hacked...
k-hawinkler
Well-known member
k-hawinkler
Well-known member
Thanks David. Mine was set to high. I remember now that I did that back then.
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Crap I had mine set on standard.
Folks I'm just going to say this which is extremely rare to do because I never want to sound bias and not neutral in anyway since I do reviews and test a lot on many diffrent cams. More importantly not because I guessed correctly and/or bought something. But my feeling that this is the 2014 camera of the year IMHO. Everything about it is just about perfect. This to me is a MAJOR upgrade to the FE series mount. I'm tempted to buy a second one. Sony do me a big favor stop drop and roll. Throw the 36 mpx in this and make it a A7rII today. Im dead serious Sony than make your A9 or whatever but do not miss the opportunity to sell a 36mpx version of this. More about my feelings later on this but this is the most balanced Sony camera to date in the FE mount. I may give the A7s second for its high ISO and the A77II for it AF speed in a DSLR style can than Nikon D810 for its upgrades over the D800e but this A7II is the most balanced and user friendly upgrade. All the little improvements really add up.
Folks I'm just going to say this which is extremely rare to do because I never want to sound bias and not neutral in anyway since I do reviews and test a lot on many diffrent cams. More importantly not because I guessed correctly and/or bought something. But my feeling that this is the 2014 camera of the year IMHO. Everything about it is just about perfect. This to me is a MAJOR upgrade to the FE series mount. I'm tempted to buy a second one. Sony do me a big favor stop drop and roll. Throw the 36 mpx in this and make it a A7rII today. Im dead serious Sony than make your A9 or whatever but do not miss the opportunity to sell a 36mpx version of this. More about my feelings later on this but this is the most balanced Sony camera to date in the FE mount. I may give the A7s second for its high ISO and the A77II for it AF speed in a DSLR style can than Nikon D810 for its upgrades over the D800e but this A7II is the most balanced and user friendly upgrade. All the little improvements really add up.
V
Vivek
Guest
High praise indeed! 
Where are those spell checkers and their troll buddies to take that post apart? :ROTFL::ROTFL:
Where are those spell checkers and their troll buddies to take that post apart? :ROTFL::ROTFL:
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Damn iPhone i had to edit 5 times now and still off. Lol
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
I'm dead serious and I don't make a penny saying this but to all A7 users UPGRADE.
Rude of you! I just may have to pony up a lot more pennies for that belated Christmas present
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Agree and there is nothing wrong with stopping at 24mpx, to me that is really the most useful count for a majority of folks.