Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Funny I have not seen that discontinued. I wonder if it is
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iiiNelson
Well-known member
Yeah that's taking a page from Apple's book offer that basic last model for bargain prices.
iiiNelson
Well-known member
Hell I'd take an M240... To trade in or sell. What's the going rate for those these days? Honestly the only two Leica bodies I'd want today are the MM and S.
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Vivek
Guest
Would anyone hang such a picture on the wall? I wonder why they put up such images as examples...Looks really good! Exciting to see these samples so early.
Couple #1 shot is a great example of why you don't want to always shoot wide open though
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Vivek
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Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Okay cashing it in than I'm all in. Lol
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
A lot of Sony ****. Lol
Slingers
Active member
Why would they release the "couple" shot when it looks like the photographer made a mistake? Why would the photographer not have binned that image? It makes no sense.
I think the high megapixel image is upsized for printing. The cropping matches paper sizes and the megapixels match for 300dpi.
I think the high megapixel image is upsized for printing. The cropping matches paper sizes and the megapixels match for 300dpi.
Except for (i) the relationship of the two dimensions, Slingers, and (ii) 8910 / 300 = 29.7. Note the highlight on the 8910 figure too, that is the one that has been changed.
8910/6300 = 1.4142 to the 4th dec. place, that is not a coincidence. The square root of 2 = 1.4142 to the 4th decimal place.
All pixel dimensions are divisible by 4. 6300 is and 8910 is not. Imagining 6300 is correct - who knows but 59.5mp would change a lot. ;-)
The Batises both look absolutely superb, and the MTF are really terrific. I hope their first run is large enough and the QC is up to snuff. They will sell these in large numbers, both of them. I see both in my future too. The 25/2 is a cafe lens, a street lens and a landscape lens all in one 335 gram package, with AF. Yes please.
8910/6300 = 1.4142 to the 4th dec. place, that is not a coincidence. The square root of 2 = 1.4142 to the 4th decimal place.
All pixel dimensions are divisible by 4. 6300 is and 8910 is not. Imagining 6300 is correct - who knows but 59.5mp would change a lot. ;-)
The Batises both look absolutely superb, and the MTF are really terrific. I hope their first run is large enough and the QC is up to snuff. They will sell these in large numbers, both of them. I see both in my future too. The 25/2 is a cafe lens, a street lens and a landscape lens all in one 335 gram package, with AF. Yes please.
Jorgen Udvang
Subscriber Member
Things are falling into place suddenly. 25/55 (Zeiny)/85 isn't a bad kit, and these two newcomers look very nice. As for the "failed" double portrait, I don't see it as failed at all. It's not a perfect portrait of two people, but a very interesting portrait of one person and someone next to her, playing second violin for the time being. Apart from that, it shows beautiful bokeh in a human face that is only a bit out of focus. A very powerful demonstration in my view.
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Wow if it turns out to be true.
iiiNelson
Well-known member
Yeah. I'm sort of thinking the A7RII is coming and will be 36MP. How do we explain the pictures with 36MP that have EXIF stripped. Why strip EXIF from an ordinary A7R that's been out for 18 months? Why leave the A7II EXIF intact?
I'd say that maybe there's a HR mode except the shot is handheld which makes me believe this is from another camera or possibly Upres-Ed for printing as suggested by Slingers. Going by the OM-D EM5II HR mode adds 2.5 the base resolution (16MP becomes 40MP) so an HR mode on the A7II should yield ~60MP. If that's the case all of this would make sense except the handheld thing. A7RII would yield ~90MP in HR if that's what's Sony has been up to or if they found a way to implement a handheld HR mode through firmware.
The shot is pretty clean though and I don't see Zeiss doing that for initial test shots. Besides 36MP is more than enough for smaller prints without raising resolution.
I'd say that maybe there's a HR mode except the shot is handheld which makes me believe this is from another camera or possibly Upres-Ed for printing as suggested by Slingers. Going by the OM-D EM5II HR mode adds 2.5 the base resolution (16MP becomes 40MP) so an HR mode on the A7II should yield ~60MP. If that's the case all of this would make sense except the handheld thing. A7RII would yield ~90MP in HR if that's what's Sony has been up to or if they found a way to implement a handheld HR mode through firmware.
The shot is pretty clean though and I don't see Zeiss doing that for initial test shots. Besides 36MP is more than enough for smaller prints without raising resolution.
The eoshd exif shows the image is from last fall and has a pile of exif inconsistencies. The pic on the Zeiss flicker is IMO more interesting. Taken arms extended, top of head (has to be LCD+Eye-AF due to DoF); not a nice setup for current A7R with mechincal shutter vibration/delay. Dated mid-April whereas other A7II pics in the series are from february. Other pics in the Batis 85/1.8 series are equally slightly cropped to match the "paper" aspect ratio of the high MP shot. With stripped exif this sure looks like it is from a 59ish MP sensor, but there really is no way to be sure. Unlikely to be sensor-shift pic IMO, on top of head that is a very very hard t as sensor-shift is multiexposure. Could surely be upres, but then again why upres only that one, others with lower res are only cropped slightly.
I took a look at the file with unix "strings" command. It contains some meta-info that is not listed otherwize like last edit is 15th April, with pic taken 13th, but nothing of use and surely no smoking gun there, unfortunately.
I took a look at the file with unix "strings" command. It contains some meta-info that is not listed otherwize like last edit is 15th April, with pic taken 13th, but nothing of use and surely no smoking gun there, unfortunately.
iiiNelson
Well-known member
Pretty much the conclusion I came to as well. I think it's most likely a new higher resolution 59.5MP camera in addition to the A7RII.