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this eBay seller is the same one that converted my cg lenses about 3 years ago. The lenses do have a helicoid focusing unit, smooth, and no screw drive. I had to have one (the 45) re-calibrated, but otherwise no problems. The names (Chinese) of the owner(s) and company seem to change over time, but still based in the Rowland heights area of California. I could not find his listing in eBay for conversion service so he may not be doing it any longer.
I keep the 35 2.8 in my bag all the time. It's small, it's good and it's small
I also have the 55 1.8 and a few Minolta lenses including the 135 2.8 and 200 2.8. I also have the manual Rokinson 14 2.8 and a Sony 85 2.8 (which is a very nice studio lens)
I am still struggling with a 24-70 option as well as considering the 16-35.
Of all of these the 55 is on my camera much of the time.
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Also drooling over the Batis option, the 85 and 25. However I can only buy so much at a time.
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Based on the performance of the 35 Sonnar I might buy the 28 to replace my 30mm Pentax K and my Zeiss 28 Biogon G (see post about the Biogon on the r2).
The Zeiss 28 Biogon G on the r2 is vastly improved over the r1 and A72. I see no color shading at all. Smearing is reduced but not eliminated. Not workable for landscapes in my opinion, but perhaps good for street?
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For the time being my light kit which all fits easily in my Billingham Hadley Small is
A7rII with FE55 (can be used in crop mode as near 85mm lens)
CV 12/5.6 v.1 with CV come-focus adaptor. Used in crop mode this gives me an 18mm equivalent and nearly 18mp file (works well with good edge sharpness and no vignetting).
iPad air 2 + spare batteries, wallet etc
This way I can cover from 18-85mm. 28 and 55 are my most used focal lengths and doing documentary work I have always worked using 2 bodies and these focal lengths.
The FE16-35 will be used for landscape/architectural work and the FE24-70 will get some use on my A7s.
I bought the FE28/2 before the Q was announced but will hang onto it as for it's low cost it is pretty good
I may well sell my WATE and CV12/5.6 and get the CV15/4.5 as it seems to get good reports on the A7 series and is very compact
I will probably keep my Elmarit-M 90 and apo-telyt 135 as they both work vey well though the FE 90/28 macro is texting but with the CV close-focus adapter and the IBIS system in the rII I can get close enough for my needs.
This leaves me with the 70-300 DO which performs quite respectably with the Metabones adapter. And my 85 F1.2L II. Frankly, this lens was the primary reason that I had held on to my Canon gear and 5D2 (now sold) for so long.
I've ordered both of the Zeiss Batis lenses (though I've no idea when we'll see them in the UK) and it will be interesting to see which of the two 85mm lenses I eventually keep. I'm presently thinking that the integration of the native lenses with the A7R2's features will be enough to win me over. The IBIS on the A7R2 is brilliant - and more than compensates for the loss of aperture.
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My current lens kit for the A7RII consists of the CV 15 III, FE 28/2, FE 35/2.8, and FE 55/1.8. Lots of other MF legacy lenses that will get swapped in/out of the base kit when needed.
Hopefully I'll get my Sony A7rII next week. Right now I have only two lenses to use it with:
- Canon 24/3.5 TSE
- The 90/2.8 G Sony macro
So my plan is to use it with the existing A-lenses I have, like 24-70/2.8ZA, 70-400/4-5.6G, Sigma 12-24 etc.
In the longer term I may consider the two Loxias, and I am considering to add a Hartblei HCam TS adapter so I can use my Hasselblad lenses for tilt and shift, that would give me 40/60/100/120 mm (I also have a 180/4 but I think it is to long for TS).
I would also like a decent standard zoom, but the 24-70/4 has not gotten very good reviews. The 28-70 kit lens seems worth the price however, so I may buy one.
I am a bit vary of image stabilisation and like manual focus, and I am a f/8 shooter. With 90 mm it is a bit different, I want to use that lens with full aperture. Originally I ordered the Batis 85/1.8 but the 90/2.8 is dual purpose, seems to be excellent and available today…
Leica 24 Elmarit
FE 35 f/2.8
Leica 50 APO
Leica 90 f/2 ASPH
Soon I will get the Batis 25 and sell the CV21 and 24 Elmarit
Not sure what to do about 35mm. Mine seems pretty good and I can't get over how light it is. I just have no use for autofocus and usually fight it. Maybe the Loxia 35.
The only native mount lens I have for my A7r and A7r ll is the stellar 55mm Sony/Zeiss. I was just about to pull the trigger on the 16-35 zoom until the Batis 25 was announced. I know the 16-35 would be more flexible (especially in the 16-28 range). How much better is the Zeiss Batis 25mm than the 16-35 at 24mm? I shoot an equal amount of landscapes and architecture.
I have the Metabones IV adapter and the following lenses.
Canon 17mm TSE
Canon 24mm TSE ll
Canon 70-200 f4 zoom
Canon 100mm Macro.
Where is the weakness in my lineup? I think what I am trying to do is build a lightweight alternative to all of the Canon/Sigma glass.
Your weakness is a lightweight 24/25 for walk around kind of shooting. Take your 35 a 25 let's say and if you had a 85 a great kit for just travel, walk around kind of shooting. The 17, 24 TSE are great lenses but for more serious shooting, not fun to carry around. But depends on what you do too
You could also do a VC15, 25 Batis, 35 Loxia and Batis 85. Just a really nice kit there.keep the TSE glass the 70-200 and maybe sell the rest
Guy, thanks for you input! Being a stickler for high quality files, I should probably get the Batis 25mm for sure. I am wondering how much difference there is in the Sony 70-200 f4 and my Canon 70-200 f4. Any experience there?
I like your collection the most and believe it makes the most sense-- probably because most similar to mine
WATE-16-18-21-- This is just outstanding especially with the Voigt close adapter (amazing what you can do)
Leica 28mm 2.8 Elmarit R
Sony/Zeiss 35mm 1.4
Sony/Zeiss 55mm 1.8
Voigtlander 75mm 2.4 and I have the 1.8 version as well but prefer the former (so small)
Leica 90mm Elmarit M
I also have the Sony 24-70 for walk around shooting.
I am considering the Batis 25mm and even selling the Leica 28mm and getting the Sony 28mm f2. The Leica 28mm R is just such a beautiful lens but again if traveling rarely makes it into the bag. Images are just so gorgeous. At some point would like to compare with the Sony 28mm. One of my major interests in the Batis 25mm is the ability for close up focus-- but with the WATE and close up adapter--- perhaps redundant.. Of course f2 and AF is so nice.. geez.. keep going back and forth on how to deal with this 25-28mm range.
I also am not using the Leica 90mm that often For travel I have the 75mm and 135 so figure that range is fairly well covered without the 90mm. If a good 200mm option becomes available perhaps 90mm would become more important and replace the need for the 135mm?
I tried a 70-200mm and thought the 200mm side of things was really quite good but the lens is much too big and heavy-- otherwise would go back to my Nikon system.
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Looks like I'm late to the party but here we go:
Zeiss 45mm Contax G
Jupiter 8 50/2
Zeiss 90mm Contax G
Lot of sonnars (and clone) in that list!
After having sold off my Nikon gear which was d800 plus
I now have the a6k, a7r, a7rii plus
24-70 (BTW, I like this lens a lot. Its better all-around than my Nikon 24-70 2.8 ever was)
Speaking plainly, I could not be more satisfied with my move to Sony, Zeiss.
I also picked up an Nikon1 v2 with 70-300 for reach on feathers.
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I haven't laid out serious money for lenses so far-- working on living with what I have. Just finished testing all my lenses. So this is what I have found works well on A7rII:
1. Sony 10-18mm zoom lens. This covers the range of 12-16mm for me with minor smearing in the corners. Not a problem, becuase I often prefer the 5:4 format over 3:2.
2. Tamron SP A-mount 17-35mm f2.8-4 on LA-EA4. This lens is sharp in the center wide open, and edges are good 1-2 stops down. LA-EA4 allows phase focusing in very low light.
3. Sony 28 mm f2 lens. This lens has to be stopped down for edges, but is small and light. I got it because it was only $400, but it is not better than the Tamron zoom in IQ.
4. Sony 28-70mm kit lens. I'm not using this much, but in the bag for possible use in travel or walk-around.
5. Minolta 70-210mm f4 "Beercan" on LA-EA4. This lens is sharp from f5.6. Again, good for low-light AF due to the LA-EA4. I used this last night for a sunset shoot.
6. Nikon 85mm f1.8 "D" lens on Nikon adapter. This lens is good for narrow DOF portraits. Manual Focus and aperture setting on the lens. The downside is no exif data.
All of these lenses are sharp down to the pixel level on A7rII. They all show higher resolution on 42 mp A7rII compared to the 24 mp A7II. Most are available in a $100-300 price range (not 800-2000).
One thing to keep in mind from my testing: if you go above ISO 800, the differences in resolution between different lenses and bodies becomes negligible. Noise processing wipes out the difference.
Another thing that I am noticing: Several pros have commented that A7rII is not good for weddings due to poor auto-focus in low-light. For those who need low-light auto focus, the LA-EA4 solves the problem. You just need a couple of A-mount lenses. If I were going to do a low-light wedding with AF, I would consider using only the two A-mount zooms in this list.
For the future, I am thinking about getting an AF FE lens in the 85-135 mm range for portraits to take advantage of eye tracking AF.
I have a bunch of other Minolta lenses, but found huge chromatic aberration, beyond Lightroom's capability to correct. These include Minolta 20, 24-105, 75-300, 100-300.
I've also tried several of my longer Leica and Contax G lenses, but saw no advantage over the above list.
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just tried AF with my Sony/Zeiss 135/1.8 A-mount with Sony LA-EA4 adapter;
also the CV12mm shows no color cast or vignetting
and the Contax G 90 with metabones helical focus adapter
all work great
I prefer manual focus on the normal and wide end and autofocus on the tele end.
So I'm going to wait for either a Batis 135 or Zeiss ZA 135 with SSM.
Right now I have
Zeiss ZM 15, Leica Cron 28 and Cron 50 APO. 3 lenses + 2 bodies amount to a little over 4.6 lb and all can fit into a ThinkTank Turnstyle 10 .
75 cron will be the next one i try if i can un-glue it from my monochrome
I would like some opinions on which wide lens combo to try out first.
I'm a minimalist so I figured one of these 2 combos I can start with, and then see where I go from there:
For me the 25 Batis is better than the 16-35, but the 28 is better than the 35. But I'm not going to carry around a 25 and 28, :-/.
So how do you guys feel about this?
Well the reason I'm iffy on the 16-35 is that I never shoot under 20mm, I just don't like that FOV, and when you get close to 35 the lens starts to loose IQ. So my reasoning was that if I'm always going to be in the 20's anyway why not spend the same amount of money on a lens that's faster and has better IQ while sacrificing the range. That's why I think I would rather have the 25 over the 16-35.
However after that then I said well the 28 is just as good as the 25 in IQ, the 3mm difference is nothing to me, I can do without a 35, and I can save $1k! lol. But then I would need to get the 16-35 because 28 is not wide enough.
My 55 and up lenses are completely covered, I know exactly what I need and like there.
1, I didnt need fast AF. and to be honest, on A7r, the 70-200 F4 really isnt that fast anyway (no phase detection).
2, while 100% crop shows more details with the sony, i found the canon has more pop/"appears" to be sharper at overall level (not at pixel peeping level).
so at the end i kept the canon.
a minor point, i like the zoom ring with canon a bit more than the sony. it feels...less premium...which means i have to care less about equipment and focus more on the actual picture.... but that's just me...
Keep It Simple.
XQ2 / A7r / 15mm / 25mm / 28-35-50mm
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Does anyone know where a Batis 25mm is available. Can you email me if you do markay at stanford dot edu
Any one have any experience with the FE 70-200 on the A7RII versus the A7R? I once rented that lens to try it on my A7r but I thought it hunted too much when the light was low. Has this improved?
So far have the;
I'd like Batis 25, 85, and maybe 135 to complete the set....
After a week I'm reasonably certain the A7RII is replacing my Monochrom for landscape work. And my usual lens set required only one substitution:
Distagon 25 (to replace 2.8 Elmarit 24)
I'd thought of collecting Leica R lenses when I first tried Sony A7, but opted instead for Zeiss Contax (C/Y) lenses. Initially I did so because they were cheap, and according to old reviews matched R image quality pretty much toe-to-toe. The C/Y 25, in particular, bested the 24 R lens, which was simply a Minolta. And now I love the middle-aged Zeiss rendering. I've picked up 28 2.8, 50 1.4, and 35-70 f3.4 Vario-Sonnar (the latter isn't the kit lens; it competed with the 35-70 f4 R and was at the time thought to be the winner). But I don't haul these Zeiss lenses around for landscape photography, because the 3-lens set (above) is so easy to carry.
interesting that no one has mentioned canon's 11-24mm F4 so far.
Keep It Simple.
XQ2 / A7r / 15mm / 25mm / 28-35-50mm
EOS M3 / 18-35mm
After several years trying to build the 'holy grail' of kits...buying, using and ultimately selling a M8, M9, M240, D800e, two A7Rs, an A7S, and too many lenses to admit, I think my kit is actually done. The A7Rii finally brought it all together.
FE 90mm Macro
Tamron 150-600mm (on LA-EA3)
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I'm getting close just a matter of getting funds where I need them. I'm two lenses short of bliss. Okay maybe 3. I'm a gear whore
It will of course depend on your intent and style...
Batist 25 ++++
FE 35/1.4 ++++
FE 55/1.8 ++++
Loxia 50 ++++
ZA 135 f/1.8 ++++
Superb lens. Only received it yesterday, but truly a surprise package. It will still be a few months wait in Australia for the Batis 85!!
With the A7rII you can hand hold the ZA 135 down to 1/10s combined with f/1.8 is amazing. To fully use this lens with the A7r would be
very difficult as the min shutter speed would need be 1/180s
Loxia 35 +++
FE 35/2.8 +++
If the above lenses are too clinical
50 Nocti f1.0 ++++
75 Lux ++++
50 Cron IV ++++
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Tallai, Queensland Australia.
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This is my current lineup:
Leica WATE (16-21). Slow at F4, expensive, but excellent quality, especially stopped down, in a very compact package. Hard to beat at any price for combination of small size and quality
Leica R 28 2.8, v. 2: possibly best 28 ever made, manual focus only and adapter makes it a bit large, but if you like tho focal length, a very fine choice due to excellent quality. I don't use mine enough due to focal length being too close to 35 (with tiny FE) and bag size/weight.
FE 35 2.8. Not much to say except it is almost always in my bag or pocket due to small size, light weight, autofocus, and very good quality.
CV 35 1.2 v. 2: fairly small, quite heavy for size. Great bokeh and very fast lens. Really good wide open at short range for portraits and such. Less good at infinity than the FE due to poor contrast until stopped down to 5.6 after which it is good and by F8 really good across the frame. Very versatile lens with only weakness being infinity at large apertures. MF only. It usually finds its way to my bag for low light, casual portraiture, etc.
FE 55 1.8: probably the no brainier choice of all the FE line. Reasonably priced, very good across the frame. Very sharp. AF is good. Other 50mm have more character perhaps, but is the obvious first choice for a 50mm prime for Sony FE.
Leica M 75 1.4: just bought it! So far it seems great. I anticipate a lot of character and a perfect low loght complement to the CV 35 1.2 with lots of character.
Leica M 90mm/2 AA. Amazing lens. MTF almost perfect from wide open. Pretty compact if dense. Great portrait lens and for landscape. Really no weaknesses that I can find. Lot's of competition at this focal length, but one of the best. Drawbacks are price and MF only. Not sure I need the Batis 85 except for autofocus.
Sony 70-200/4. Very good quality. Very useful for travel as covers a lot of focal length in a reasonably light package albeit not small. Pretty good for outdoor portraiture too. Lenses like this show that the size advantage of the mirrorless system does not translate to telephoto lenses. Only finds its way into my bag when I need a long lens.
My bag usually has WATE, 35 2.8, and 55 in it for hiking, landscapes, and such or, if I don't need UWA, sub the Leica 90/2. Will otherwise mix and match depending on what my needs are.
Hope some of this helps.
Still waiting on that A7rII! :-(
Regarding the lens line up, I plan to use my existing lenses for the Sony Alpha 99SLT. My initial plan is to add a couple of lenses in ranges where my 24-70/2.8 ZA is weak, short end and long end.
So the new lenses are Canon 24/3.5 TSE (where I am very much interested in the shift and tilt) and the new Sony 90/2.8 macro. Where I go from here I need to find out.
I have not bought the 24-70/4, as test reports are saying it is mediocre and downwards, although I understand it may be a bit better than that. I understand that 24-70 lenses are difficult designs. Canon's 24-70/2.8 LII is probably the best of the bunch. So I bought the 28-70/3.5-5.6 lens which seems to be a decent design but still mediocre. I wanted a lens with decent AF.
Present plan may be to go with the two Loxias or something like that.
Present line up:
Sigma 10/2.8 Fisheye with adapter (this is APS-C and used sometimes as a speciality lens)
Sigma 12-24 with adapter
Sony 24-70/2.8ZA with adapter
Sony 70-400/4-5.6G with adapter
Sony 70-300/4.5G with adapter (for lightweight packing)
Canon 24/3.5 TSE LII
Sony 28-70/3.5-5.6 (for lightweight packing)
Sony 90/2.8G Macro
But right now I wait for the camera. After that I need to find out about the lenses I have and consider next options.
Meanwhile, I need to get rid of some old equipment.
I think I finally found bliss after screwing around with this since I bought in.
VC15 version III. Love this little thing
Batis 25 turns out maybe one of the best you can bolt on. My tests reviled uncanny performance
Sony/Zeiss 35 1.4 is just a fabolous look lens
Batis 85 is amazing centrally and just a great performer
Minolta 200 I just sold mine to Cindy several weeks ago but it was a mistake and I knew it. Just amazing old lens that not much can touch in that range. So I bought one back
I need a mid zoom and I'm just not happy with my options and more importantly this one is a money issue since it will get little use. I just don't want to invest much in it.
I'm actually done for a bit and just settle in . I'm tired of buying and selling
Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.
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picked up the 90mm macro; noticed it has a steady shot on/off button on the lens. i would assume you leave this off and use the steady shot in the body, if at all?
or off on the body, on on the lens?
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