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    Thanks Godfrey...the initial look at the RAW file was uninspiring...sometimes it helps to look again. I do like it a lot myself.

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    Nice reportage, Ashwin! Do you happen to recall what lenses? They seem to be covering the corners quite well.

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    The Elmarit-R 24/2.8 I bought via Ebay arrived. It's in generally very nice shape, in the original box with packing and lens hood. Very tiny scratch on the front element ... inconsequential. Focus ring and aperture work smoothly and easily, no oil on the aperture blades.

    I fitted it to the A7 and did a couple of quickie test shots (still too darn busy to take a few hours off and go for a shooting walk). Corners look good (little to no smearing) even at f/2.8, of course they tighten up and look better at f/4 and f/5.6. A bit of light falloff wide open, again better when stopped down a stop, etc.

    I think compatibility with the A7 sensor is at least very good. I'll have to do some more rigorous testing. This is one I'll likely shoot a roll of film alongside the A7 to really see what the lens is like in both mediums. But I'm already pretty sure its going to work out just fine anyway. :-)

    Now back to work.

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    Just received a near mint condition Leica R Vario-Elmar f/4 35-70 and played around inside with macros and focus stacking. Very nice lens and hope it warms up a bit this weekend so I can take it out for a test walk.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    The Elmarit-R 24/2.8 I bought via Ebay arrived. It's in generally very nice shape, in the original box with packing and lens hood. Very tiny scratch on the front element ... inconsequential. Focus ring and aperture work smoothly and easily, no oil on the aperture blades.

    I fitted it to the A7 and did a couple of quickie test shots (still too darn busy to take a few hours off and go for a shooting walk). Corners look good (little to no smearing) even at f/2.8, of course they tighten up and look better at f/4 and f/5.6. A bit of light falloff wide open, again better when stopped down a stop, etc.

    I think compatibility with the A7 sensor is at least very good. I'll have to do some more rigorous testing. This is one I'll likely shoot a roll of film alongside the A7 to really see what the lens is like in both mediums. But I'm already pretty sure its going to work out just fine anyway. :-)

    Now back to work.
    Congrats Godfrey. I have this lens also and it behaves about the same as you described on my A7R, except I have to stop down to about f/8 to get the corners sharpened up. My 28 elmarit R is better in terms of edge/corner performance on the A7R, but both are very sharp and produce nice color with the sony sensor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thompsonkirk View Post
    Nice reportage, Ashwin! Do you happen to recall what lenses? They seem to be covering the corners quite well.

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    Hi Kirk, I used the 21 SE (rarely), and mainly the 35 lux asph (pre FLE) and 75 Summilux...All seem to do fine for this type of work, on the A7. The 35 and 75, in particular, were stellar, and the 21 was totally fine in this light and circumstance...plenty sharp and not much notable smearing...
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    Wait, you're not allowed to shoot sports with a mirrorless. Even media days. I'm sure it violates some state law or something.

    Maybe if you painted the lens white...

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    C/Y Planar 50mm f/1.4 @ f/2.0, fast becoming my favourite lens

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    With the ZE 18/3.5

    "Curves and straight lines - Cold and Warm"



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    Quote Originally Posted by kienchil View Post
    C/Y Planar 50mm f/1.4 @ f/2.0, fast becoming my favourite lens

    That's what I call impressive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Congrats Godfrey. I have this lens also and it behaves about the same as you described on my A7R, except I have to stop down to about f/8 to get the corners sharpened up. My 28 elmarit R is better in terms of edge/corner performance on the A7R, but both are very sharp and produce nice color with the sony sensor.
    Thanks!

    I wonder if the better edge/corner performance of the 28mm is mostly because it's a slightly longer focal length. No matter really, just idle conjecture ... :-)

    I put the A7+Elmarit-R 24mm on a tripod this morning and set it level (vertically) and square to cover my bookcase so I'd have plenty of corner/edge detail to look at. I did two exposure test runs: first run I focused on an item near the center of the FoV, second run I focused on an item at the corner of the FoV.

    f/2.8 - corners are approximately 1EV down from center and somewhat soft. Center is good.
    f/4 - corners are about .3-.5EV down from center, sharper to very good; center is excellent.
    f/5.6 - corners are within .1EV from center, excellent; center excellent
    f/8 - little change
    f/11 - little change
    f/16 - slight softening overall (diffraction I am sure)
    f/22 - slightly more softening overall

    I saw no evidence of sensor-induced smearing, just normal wide-open softness and fall-off at the corners for an ultra-wide lens from f/2.8-f/4. By f/5.6, performance was great everywhere.

    There's a small amount of lateral CA; Lightroom 5.3 eliminates it completely.

    I did a composite JPEG showing a detail clip of the lower-right corner of the frame. The only processing done beyond the LR5.3 defaults was to turn on lateral CA removal and add 0.7 EV exposure to all seven frames. The image file is large (5100x1200 pixels, 1.5Mbytes) so you can see the detail, I'll link to it rather than embed it:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...erformance.jpg

    Overall, I'm sure this lens is usable even at f/2.8 for less demanding work (say, trying to work with very dim circumstances and more hand-held, people type subject matter), but for more demanding work f/5.6 to f/11 is the sweet range. Very pleased ... I'll have to repeat the experiment with the Leicaflex SL to confirm that what I'm seeing is purely lens and not sensor, but it's darn good enough anyway. Can't wait to get out and do some real shooting with it. :-)

    BTW, this was also my first opportunity to test the Novoflex ASTAT/NEX tripod mount. It's a little fussy to set up since you have to remove the mount adapter and fit it, then replace the adapter with the foot loose. To get it aligned correctly, I first aligned and leveled the tripod head. Then I fitted the camera and turned on the camera's two-axis level display. I rotated the camera until all indicators went green with the camera in horizontal orientation, tightened the clamp, and put a paint mark on the device and on the adapter. Then I loosened the clamp, rotated the camera 90 degrees for vertical orientation aligning the heads up display, and added another paint mark on the adapter.

    With index marks now in place, it is very easy to rotate the camera orientation between landscape and portrait with virtually no disturbance to the optical center of the framing or the rest of the tripod setup now.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    My village is completely cut off owing to severe weather. The only road in (we're at the end of a peninsula) has been closed for nearly four days. Fortunately we have plenty of food, fuel and wine.

    But getting out is a problem so I'm back to some indoor sport. Here is my venerable Rollei 2.8F taken with the a7r, LE4A adapter and Sigma 70 mm A mount macro. Shot at F8 and 1/6th second with no evidence of shutter vibration. 6 shots processed with Helicon Focus.

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    A wonderful Rolleiflex, Bill!

    Hopefully, the weather will relent soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    My village is completely cut off owing to severe weather. The only road in (we're at the end of a peninsula) has been closed for nearly four days. Fortunately we have plenty of food, fuel and wine.

    But getting out is a problem so I'm back to some indoor sport. Here is my venerable Rollei 2.8F taken with the a7r, LE4A adapter and Sigma 70 mm A mount macro. Shot at F8 and 1/6th second with no evidence of shutter vibration. 6 shots processed with Helicon Focus.

    Being isolated like that it looks like you have a wonderfully peaceful time!
    Great image. Thanks.
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    Here are few from today. The second with a Tilt adapter.

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    I just became a new user of A7r ....

    Testing my Rokkor 100/2.0 ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    My village is completely cut off owing to severe weather. The only road in (we're at the end of a peninsula) has been closed for nearly four days. Fortunately we have plenty of food, fuel and wine.

    But getting out is a problem so I'm back to some indoor sport. Here is my venerable Rollei 2.8F taken with the a7r, LE4A adapter and Sigma 70 mm A mount macro. Shot at F8 and 1/6th second with no evidence of shutter vibration. 6 shots processed with Helicon Focus.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Well, as I was busy shooting my Rollei, this little guy was looking through my window. a7r with Sigma macro. ISO 1000, just the centre of the frame. Lots of pixels sure help when you're cropping!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Well, as I was busy shooting my Rollei, this little guy was looking through my window. a7r with Sigma macro. ISO 1000, just the centre of the frame. Lots of pixels sure help when you're cropping!

    http://www.getdpi.com/gallery/files/...4/_dsc0069.jpg
    They sure look so cute, but boy can they be nasty ... !

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    OT here. Godfrey love to hear more on the Leica 24r it was never rated that high but it could be a nice look lens. Let us know how that goes in your shooting.
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    Finally got my A7r so I could add a few shots here!! From a preview night of an incoming art/light installation for Chinese New Year.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Here are few from today. The second with a Tilt adapter.

    Love that tilt effect on #2

    Would love to see some portrait work using the Nikon 85/2.8 PCE done in the same manner.

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    7R + Elmarit-M 90mm


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    The banks of the river Neckar with the ZE 18/3.5:



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    The banks of the river Neckar with the ZE 18/3.5:



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    7R + Noctilux-M

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    7R + Summilux-M 50mm

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    7R + Elmarit-M 90mm





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    Quote Originally Posted by Pham Minh Son View Post
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    A7R + Elmarit-M 90mm



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    90 elmarit looks nice
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    OT here. Godfrey love to hear more on the Leica 24r it was never rated that high but it could be a nice look lens. Let us know how that goes in your shooting.
    I know that many dis'ed it because it was manufactured for Leica by Minolta. However, my thinking was 'hmm, Leica felt it was good enough to keep in the catalog from 1974 to 2004, unchanged except for electricals in the mount for the later cameras—how bad could it be?'

    Entry in the Leica wiki about it:
    24mm f/2.8 Elmarit-R - Leica Wiki (English)

    Mine's a 1978 example. It's a nice size and weight on the A7, handling feel is good. In my test shooting around the condo, mostly at f/4 and f/5.6, the images look good, they have that signature look and feel I expect from Leica lenses.

    Can't wait to do some real shooting with it.

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    There are too many great photos accumulating in this thread to comment on all individually. Great work, everyone! I hope to add a couple more soon ..

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    From the Porsche By Design exhibit at the NC Museum of Art:



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    My uncle had a Porsche 356 that looked a lot like that one way back when I was a little kid. :-)

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    A few more from swim practice earlier this week. All shot with the a900 with the broken select button, and the ZA 135/1.8. I left the iso at 400 just to see what the lens could really do in low light. Photos minimally processed.

    The photo of the teen in the orange goggles was taken about 30 seconds after he did a race pace swim. The photo of the younger kids was taken at the end of practice. I wanted a bit more dof and light but I am very happy with the way the photo turned out.


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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Another classic from the Porsche By Design exhibit:



    And a little whimsy, courtesy of the late Janis Joplin:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    My uncle had a Porsche 356 that looked a lot like that one way back when I was a little kid. :-)
    Its my favorite car of all time.
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    LOL Not sure this one moved in 40 years but it looks cool. LOL
    Shot with the 55 FE at 1.8

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    This is the old CSM sugar factory terrain. The office buildings are in old silos.


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    Some more from the same terrain.



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    Making great use of that CV 21/1.8, Michiel! The A7/A7r might justify purchase of that lens if what you're getting out of it is without doing any corner cleanup!

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    Guy: regarding the old truck...I would like to see what you could make of the scraped paint on the left front fender (the one to the right side of the pic).

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    Biggest barge I've seen in that lock, ever.

    All with the A7 + FE55/1.8 - the 55 makes a nice reportage lens, imho.







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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    The banks of the river Neckar with the ZE 18/3.5:



    What a lovely mood this conveys. Congratulations!
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    I really like that Zeiss 18mm image....



    Here is one from ZE 25/2.0
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    A7R 35mm FE lens, ISO 250, 1/125 at f9.0 hand held
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Finally got back up close to the freezing point and went for a walk near our "new glacier". A7R + Leica R Vario-Elmar f/4 35-70.





    Edit: One last "elegant rot" image of the old park ranger's house. This is full size so be aware if you click the image you will get a very large image back.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    This is so life like it makes me want to reach into that picture!
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Finally got back up close to the freezing point and went for a walk near our "new glacier". A7R + Leica R Vario-Elmar f/4 35-70.





    Edit: One last "elegant rot" image of the old park ranger's house. This is full size so be aware if you click the image you will get a very large image back.

    These look very good. Do you happen to remember what aperture / focal length these were at, please?
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