However, I can think of 3 really good reasons not to buy it;
1. I've got too many cameras (I also have an A900 and EP2)
2. the kit lens starts at 28mm and has a lot of distortion
3. Aperture doesn't support the RAW files.
If I were being honest with myself I'd have to say that it's only 3 which is really having an effect!
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Don't worry Jono - I'm just having fun at your expense
Aperture is an important part. I really want to have a go at the RAW files from the camera and am getting impatient for the ACR/LR support and hope there is an update very soon.
More seriously, the number of times I've fiddlearsed about with cracks and scams to make RAW files from new cameras work in Aperture I really don't want to do it again!
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I'm anxious to see what you are finding with the wider lenses like 24 mm and 28 mm lenses as I am considering getting a used CV in those FL to give me an effective 35 to 45 mm field of view.
I don't have anything worth it for testing. I have a CV28 but it is f3.5 and I have the 21 elmarit which is a multi-thousand dollar lens. Whether or not a lens works seems very lens design dependent so the 28 I have can't be used to see if the faster 28 is worthwhile. Before I buy any new lenses I'm going to wait for photokina annoncements.
NEX5 + 18-55mm
Hot - these look great. Raw or Jpeg? Processing?
Agree with Terry about looking towards Photokina. I am hopeful that there will be some E-mount lens announcements, although I don't know if that's 50/50 or what.
I would have thought that MPK2010's results with the 35 summarit and CV lenses, together with m4/3 experience would suggest that anything as wide as 28 (let alone 24) was going to be questionable at best. All that angled microlens stuff done by kodak/leica surely wasn't for nothing!
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Cool, Hot -they look fine - nice soft bokeh as well.
Certainly, a new secondary camera is not a good enough reason!
a better quality zoom starting at 24mm would certainly do the business for me.
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I can tell you for sure you won't be using the 21 elmarit on the NEX. Color is fine....smears towards the edges and the kit lens beats it. I can post pictures but it is hardly worth it.
In the meantime, I think I should be fine with using only 1 or 2 lenses and swapping less frequently than with m43. Not sure yet if the NEX dustbuster is quite on par with m43; in fairness it still seems quite good, I've only seen dust once so far, but then I've never once seen dust on an m43 sensor in over a year of using several.
Here is my new short article on HDR with the NEX cameras:
This morning in the fog I tried shooting the 21 elmarit lens and wasn't happy. I had another go with the lens after the fog lifted and it wasn't as bad. Wide open I still need to use an ND filter. You can see the color change on the edges. To take this shot I need to hold the camera out a window and I should be steady at these shutter speeds it would be nice to set this up on a tripod. I did the same with the 18-55 kit (f11 - can redo it) and the 16-35 Zeiss. I can't open the windows enough to do this on a tripod and don't feel like going out as I'm a bit sick.
If anyone wants files happy to send.
21 Elmarit - look at the magenta in the edges.
16-35 alpha mount Zeiss
Base image shot with NEX-5 and Zeiss 35mm
Terry, I can't remember for sure but it seems that I recall reading that the M9 shows a similar color-shift toward the edges with the 21. There are several lenses on the M9 that exhibit a color shift and even with lens coding it showed up. If my recollection is correct, then one can't expect more from the NEX that lacks the Kodak sensor and micro lenses. I would like to see a reasonably fast 24 or 28 that works well enough for every day use. The 40 works great except for the effective 60 mm field of view.
Well Sony is about to release an alpha mount Zeiss 24 f2. No clue of size or price.
QUOTE=barjohn;231739]I would like to see a reasonably fast 24 or 28 that works well enough for every day use. The 40 works great except for the effective 60 mm field of view.[/QUOTE]
Have you considered the Minolta Rokkor 28/2 which they made for the CLE? The color signature should fit in pretty well with your 40/2, it's tiny and its notorious "dreaded white spot disease" can be permanently cured by at least one repairman, John Van Stelten. (His shop is near Fort Colllins, Colorado. You could google him or just phone him at (303) 665-6640.)
Those spots are caused by crystals forming in the black anti-reflective paint inside the lens barrel, which leach out (probably after exposure to high heat) and are deposited on the lens element. He takes the lens apart (which is, apparently, rather labor intensive) removes the old paint, repaints the barrel with paint that won't ever produce such spots and you're good to go. It's not inexpensive, but lenses that already have the problem should be discounted commensurately and I found the package doable.
[One warning: The longer those spots remain untreated on the lens, the larger they grow and the more likely it is that they could etch the glass permanently. That's not a problem with the earlier, tinier, stages of the condition, though.]
He's a good workman, excellent to deal with and did a great job for me in January. Unfortunately, I was using it on an RD1 and, though the image quality was exquisite, my focusing ability was not, and I sold the whole outfit a few months later. If I found that the NEX would enable me to use manual focus again, however (and if my Contax G 45/2 didn't work out with the NEX) the 28/2 Rokkor would definitely be on the shortest of my short lists!
It's a real gem!
My Apologies! The Minolta Rokkor-M mount lens I was extolling in the previous post is NOT a 28/2 but a 28/2.8! So it really doesn't meet your need for speed, barjohn, does it? (It's still a stellar lens in all those other respects, though....)
Selective Wishful Thinking Memory Loss strikes again — perhaps i need to stop doing this sort of thing after midnight"
Back to bed,
I'm familiar with the Rokkor 28/2.8 and its infamous white spots. I haven't seen many for sale in some time. Probably for that reason. It is good to know it can be fixed but of course if the total price takes it into the used Leica 28 price range it wouldn't make sense.
My total cost for an otherwise excellent spotted lens and repair was $500 plus shipping.
Yes, I've wondered why there haven't been many on the market, too. It may, indeed, be that people have given up on getting their investments back on the bad ones.
It may also be that they like what they're getting from their very good ones.
I'm looking for a cle kit.
I know from nothing about this particular item, but here's a CLE in Singapore on rff:
Here are some more pictures I shot with the Contax G 45mm f2 and the 90mm f2,8.
Most of the shots were taken wide open.
Hopefully I will receive the 35mm f2 in 2 days too. I´m really curious how it will perform because it will replace the 28mm which is no good on the NEX
( because of the rounded glas element at the end of the lens ? )
The 45 and 90mm are absolutely brilliant !
I look forward to hearing about your results with the 35mm G, fotoingo. I have a feeling that lens will be my standard lens when NEX arrives.
how easy is manual focusing on contax G lenses?
Fedex delivered my Contax adapter today. The lens I bought came last week and was absolutely pristine. It is hard to believe it was ever used (I would venture a guess that it really hasn't been used).
Then it will be my "standard 50mm" too. f2 is not f1,8 or f1,4 but nontheless nice (and one stop better than the -no good on the NEX- 28mm f2,8.
My lenses (or better the whole kit (G1 + flash + bag + 28mm+45mm+90mm) looked pristine too. I guess we both were really lucky.
Which lense/s do you own or will you use ?
I´m looking forward to see some of your pictures soon
Ingo those are fantastic photos.
The 35/2 Contax G Planar is very under rated, it is my favorite adapted lens on micro 4/3 and I'm sure it will be also on NEX. It focuses closer than Leica RF lenses, too.
OK Here is my standard test scene....weather not as nice.
It is a pretty far distance across the bay. It seems to be a keeper.
For some reason the forum software keeps trying to make the crops 1200 pixels when I upload no matter which method. PM me and I will send the full files.
Two close ups one without much in the background the other with a really complex background closer to the subject both at f2
And now for your porn
Sold! Everything looks good to me. I'm cleaning my ZA 24-70 for sale as we speak. BTW, how is the focusing mechanism on that adapter, Terry?
My little brain is whirling away here but dang these lenses already were made to AF. If there is some way that Sony could take the design and throw an E mount on it with AF they would have a complete goldmine. I'm perfectly happy with the aperture on the lens and I'm sure others that would buy these for the NEX cameras wouldn't mind either. How amazing would that be! Voila! the premium lens lineup is completely solved (at least at 35, 45, 90).
Yeah, AF with these lenses would be incredible. Is the manual focusing action smooth with the adapter?
A little hard to describe it is smooth but feels a bit bumpy compared to my 50 lux. You can go way past infinity. I guess since I'm in live view it doesn't bother me. Robert (monza) has been using the Contax on m4/3 for quite a while and I know he's got an adapter coming so hopefully he can chime in here. I just like the way it feels and the size and the IQ and the bokeh and......
I'm on board. That planar looks to be the ticket for the 35mm focal length. Thanks!
fotoingo: those shots are spectacular. contax g is looking very promising.
here are a few more shots from pen f 42mm f/1.2, all wide open again:
sooner or later i'll stop the lens down and take a landscape shot with it. first i need to find myself some landscape though.
I like the way that 42 draws when shot wide open. Bring back the swirl. :-)