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    My Sony E-mount rear lens caps arrived today. Excellent fit and quality.

    I thought the package contained my M adapter, so I'm disappointed. But pleased to have proper rear caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Two close ups one without much in the background the other with a really complex background closer to the subject both at f2
    Nice! I particularly like the ethereal rendering of the plants in the second shot. Would you say that so far you are happy with the out-of-focus rendering across the board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    I'm cleaning my ZA 24-70 for sale as we speak.
    Wow, this is inconceivable to me, unless I was selling the body too! Just goes to show how many different ways there are to put these cameras to good use.

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    always have been a big fan of swirls, for select situations anyway. it seems to function pretty well as a portrait lens.

    Quote Originally Posted by espressogeek View Post
    I like the way that 42 draws when shot wide open. Bring back the swirl. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK2010 View Post
    Wow, this is inconceivable to me, unless I was selling the body too! Just goes to show how many different ways there are to put these cameras to good use.
    I've owned the ZA 24-70 since February of '08, but I haven't used it in over a year. I'm officially a prime snob. It's officially for sale over on Dyxum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    I've owned the ZA 24-70 since February of '08, but I haven't used it in over a year.
    Fair enough -- sounds like a breakup that's best for all involved!

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    I'm officially a prime snob.
    Best of luck resisting the M9!

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    Funny you say that. I've been trying to avoid the M9 for 8 months!

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Funny you say that. I've been trying to avoid the M9 for 8 months!
    Yeah the M9 is extremely tempting. For me personally, if I didn't prefer the zoom for landscape my money might have gone towards an M9 rather than the Sony full-frame. But I sure can't justify both! And since landscape is my priority, I can't see ditching the A850. So I'm going to try to use these NEX cameras + 1-2 primes for the kinds of photography I'd use an M9 for if I had one.

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    third party batteries are now on eBay if you need 600+ shots a day.
    http://sonyalphanex.blogspot.com/201...attery-on.html

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    Any more reports on that Contax 35, Terry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK2010 View Post
    Yeah the M9 is extremely tempting. For me personally, if I didn't prefer the zoom for landscape my money might have gone towards an M9 rather than the Sony full-frame. But I sure can't justify both! And since landscape is my priority, I can't see ditching the A850. So I'm going to try to use these NEX cameras + 1-2 primes for the kinds of photography I'd use an M9 for if I had one.
    But the M9 is great for landscape - a small 35, and it almost goes in your pocket - vertical stitches . . it's wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Any more reports on that Contax 35, Terry?
    Real job took over for a couple east coast days. No laptop for upload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Any more reports on that Contax 35, Terry?
    Anything special you wanna see ?
    My 35mm should arrive tommorow

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    Has anyone tried to throw an IR filter on one a NEX to check the IR response?

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    Sold my 28mm Elmarit, waiting for tests on ZM 25/2.8, ZM 35/2 and VC 35/1.4 before I purchase a replacement.. the wait is hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    But the M9 is great for landscape - a small 35, and it almost goes in your pocket - vertical stitches . . it's wonderful.
    But it can't really be that easy, can it? The truth is I've been so happy with the Sony for landscape that I just can't see switching at the moment. But a real match for the M lenses could one day prove irresistible. Perhaps by the time you find yourself with an NEX I will have set aside an equivalent amount of money towards an M9.

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    Has anyone had experience using the Leica 35 cron ASPH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK2010 View Post
    But it can't really be that easy, can it?
    YES I thought the same, until I was skiing, actually it started with the M8 - portrait mode, manual exposure and WB - 6 or 7 shots, 5 minutes in photoshop - hooray!

    Quote Originally Posted by MPK2010 View Post
    The truth is I've been so happy with the Sony for landscape that I just can't see switching at the moment. But a real match for the M lenses could one day prove irresistible. Perhaps by the time you find yourself with an NEX I will have set aside an equivalent amount of money towards an M9.
    Well, I wouldn't be without my A900 either - I think it's becoming the longest I've had a camera, but it's a bit bulky (or, at least, the lenses are).

    I actually went to the store today with intent (and wallet) . . but started fooling with a Pentax K7 and their limited primes while I was waiting, and now I'm having confusions!

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    I received the Contax G 35mm f2 today and since it mostly rained and I had to work I only got to shoot the nice "Test-Chart" wall I shot with the other Contax lenses and the Sony Zoom.

    Im sorry to say that but the 35mm is NO comparison for the 45mm or 90mm.
    the edges (and more) at f2 are terrible. At f5,6 the sharpness is okay but not great.
    So what do you win over the also not very nice 28mm f2,8 ?
    One f-stop and less vignetting.

    I really hoped that the 35mm would be more or less like the other two lenses but it isnt.

    I will test it with some real life pictures in the next days and then I will see if it is a keeper (until I get my hands on something better) or if I sell both the 28mm and 35mm.

    The 45mm and 90mm are SO perfect but I really want one more lens as a -50mm- . Anyone has some testpictures (from a wall or something similar) at 200 iso with open aperture and with f5,6 from the Pen F Pancake 38mm f2,8 or the "normal" 38mm f 1,8 ?
    Maybe you -> sebboh or Vivek ?

    I someone is interested I can upload the Contax G testfiles once more now including the 35mm pics.
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    Fotoingo, are you talking wide open close focus or the infinity focus. Wide open my crops definitely show at infinity there are more problems at the edges but not nearly the problem of some other lenses.

    I tried to go back through and think about when I would be shooting with almost infinity focus at f2 which is nil. If I am shooting landscapes I'm generally stopped down to about f8 or so. Do you have some edge crops to show between theb35 and 45?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotoingo View Post

    I someone is interested I can upload the Contax G testfiles once more now including the 35mm pics.
    That would be great, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Fotoingo, are you talking wide open close focus or the infinity focus.
    ...
    Im talking about focusing on a brick wall 1 meter away but I will try infinity focus in the next days too.
    Maybe Im just to focused on looking at those wall-pictures, haha

    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    That would be great, thanks.
    I upload it now. Will take a while ;-) -> 111 MB

    Edit:
    Here is the link : http://www.daten-transport.de/?id=zxXqky43xqPE

    It includes 2 Pics per lens / focal length (one wide open and one at f5,6).
    For example:
    1 picture from the Contax G 45mm at f2 and one at f5,6
    1 picture from the Sony Zoom Lens at 45mm at f5 (biggest aperture possible at this focal length) and one at f5,6
    and so on.

    Btw: The distortion on both the 28mm f 2,8 and 35mm f 2 is really nice / barely visible. So this (and the f-stops more light) IS a real plus over the Zoomlens.
    Last edited by fotoingo; 29th July 2010 at 14:05.

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    Here are quick comparison pictures featuring the upper left corner at 100 % from the 28mm, 35mm, 45mm and 90mm.
    All wide open.

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    Thanks for the comparisons, Ingo. The corner performance appears to be no where near as bad as other 28mm and 35mm RF lenses on micro 4/3. I rarely have the subject in the corner anyway, and if I'm shooting wide open, usually the edges are full of nice Zeiss bokeh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotoingo View Post
    The 45mm and 90mm are SO perfect but I really want one more lens as a -50mm- . Anyone has some testpictures (from a wall or something similar) at 200 iso with open aperture and with f5,6 from the Pen F Pancake 38mm f2,8 or the "normal" 38mm f 1,8 ?
    Maybe you -> sebboh or Vivek ?

    I someone is interested I can upload the Contax G testfiles once more now including the 35mm pics.
    thanks for the test shots. @f2 i don't really care about the edges so i'll have to examine the middle 2/3. i'm afraid the only pen f lens i have is the 42mm i got from cindy. i've seen some 38mm f/1.8 lenses going for reasonable prices lately and briefly considered getting one to try out, but decided 4mm isn't much of difference for two lenses that should have similar renderings.

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    Hmmm, I just went and took two shots with my Contax G 35mm just under 1 meter from a painting on the wall (yes the artist is a freak to have this patience). My copy of the lens seems sharper than what Fotoingo is getting.

    center plus 4 corners at f2

    Full image (I was blocking light a bit on bottom crops.
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    Got to play with the iPad Camera Connection Kit.

    step by step importing
    http://sonyalphanex.blogspot.com/201...ad-camera.html


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    If you use an SD card its even easier. You simply put the SD in the end of the CC. You turn on the Ipad, insert the CC in the charger port and the rest is done for you. The Photo app opens showing all your image files. You can choose the files to upload, keep or delete the files from the card.

    I tried a liitle video clip from the GF1 this afternoon--assume it would be the same with the NEX. I used jpeg.mov instead of AVCHD and it was also a very simple upload. Card into CC, CC into charger port and that's it

    Very nice little tute video.

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    Shadow in the setting sun. I was back in Phila for business and had dinner with my mother and sister last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Shadow in the setting sun. I was back in Phila for business and had dinner with my mother and sister last night.

    NEX 5 Contax G 35mm -

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Shadow in the setting sun. I was back in Phila for business and had dinner with my mother and sister last night.

    NEX 5 Contax G 35mm -

    I like this one. The addition of the slats (blind, shutters, etc) with the silhouette adds an extra element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    If you use an SD card its even easier. You simply put the SD in the end of the CC. You turn on the Ipad, insert the CC in the charger port and the rest is done for you. The Photo app opens showing all your image files. You can choose the files to upload, keep or delete the files from the card.

    I tried a liitle video clip from the GF1 this afternoon--assume it would be the same with the NEX. I used jpeg.mov instead of AVCHD and it was also a very simple upload. Card into CC, CC into charger port and that's it

    Very nice little tute video.
    wanted to see if apple and sony played nice together - the sd card is easier though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I actually went to the store today with intent (and wallet) . . but started fooling with a Pentax K7 and their limited primes while I was waiting, and now I'm having confusions!
    I actually tried that camera + the 31 limited and a few others for a few weeks before getting the A850 last winter. Nice color, nice lenses and relatively small, but I ran into an image stabilization issue with multiple bodies (which I would have to guess has since been fixed) and that was that. To my eye, the NEX + M results are nicer (at higher ISO there's really no question), but I think the real issue for me is I really don't need another full-size SLR at this point, even one as small and nicely-built as the K7!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK2010 View Post
    I actually tried that camera + the 31 limited and a few others for a few weeks before getting the A850 last winter. Nice color, nice lenses and relatively small, but I ran into an image stabilization issue with multiple bodies (which I would have to guess has since been fixed) and that was that. To my eye, the NEX + M results are nicer (at higher ISO there's really no question), but I think the real issue for me is I really don't need another full-size SLR at this point, even one as small and nicely-built as the K7!
    I'm just thinking back to joyful (simple) days with the Olympus E1, The K7 reminded me so much of that. It wouldn't impact on the Sony or Leica side of things, but neither M4/3 or the NEX is small enough to go bagless, and if you have a small bag then the K7 and a couple of primes fit nicely . . . . and it's weatherproof (I'm the guy who has had 3 cameras die a watery death!)

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    Hello everyone,

    I have been "ghosting/lurking" this thread for the past weeks (very informative and great shots) and now had to sign up because I have a question.

    I have recently received my Nex with the zoom-kit lens and I am actually perfectly happy with it, however I would treasure a high speed 70-90mm fixed focus lens for portraits and close ups of my kid, cats, wife, friends and (some) family members. I would prefer AF lenses, but Manual focus would be fine as well. I have already ordered a Leica M adapter, so a 90mm Summicron would be a possibility: I gather Zeiss Lenses must be great but there are lots of other brands with which I have no experience whatsoever, and as mentioned I do enjoy using AF, it makes matters a tad more simplistic for me at least

    Is their something like a best "portrait" lens for the Nex?

    I plan to purchase a dedicated Nex for this for I dislike changing lenses all the time. Actually I'm a huge bloke with fingers like mid-sized italian salami sausages and apart from that extremely clumsy, but I do so enjoy the "small" things of life, like the Nex and the X1 .... So size wouldn't be an issue. The only thing that keeps me from lugging my D3 around is the lack of a 70/90 compatible lens on a Nex body. I purchased the X1 a couple of months ago, long before I had even heard about the Nex, I like it very much, I like it's simplicity and quality, but now would think that a Nex might of been an evenly adequate solution, and definitely a cheaper one.

    Any any suggestions are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coms37 View Post
    Hello everyone,

    Is their something like a best "portrait" lens for the Nex?

    Any any suggestions are welcome.
    There are no other AF Lenses for the Nex than the 16mm and the 18-55 right now.

    Do you want a 90mm lens (which is 135mm equivalent on the NEX) or a "real" 90mm lens ? (Which would be a 60mm lens )

    I can recommend the Contax G 90mm f 2,8 alot ! Superb sharpness, nice bokeh und a real bargain !
    Otherwise the 45mm Contax G is ecellent too. It would be a 70mm on the NEX.

    The Leica equivalent lenses cost 10 times the money of the Contax lenses.

    Just my 2 cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coms37 View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I have been "ghosting/lurking" this thread for the past weeks (very informative and great shots) and now had to sign up because I have a question.

    I have recently received my Nex with the zoom-kit lens and I am actually perfectly happy with it, however I would treasure a high speed 70-90mm fixed focus lens for portraits and close ups of my kid, cats, wife, friends and (some) family members. I would prefer AF lenses, but Manual focus would be fine as well. I have already ordered a Leica M adapter, so a 90mm Summicron would be a possibility:
    Any any suggestions are welcome.
    For a 75mm equivalent focal length have a look at CV's 50mm Noktons, f1.5 or f1.1 are available, or Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50mm f1.5. Not so high speed, but fast enough, the CV 75mm f2.5 is a bargain (112mm equiv.)
    The 90 cron you mention will be 135mm equiv. on the Nex and quite a beast on the tiny body. The thin tele elmarit could be an alternative (f2,8). All MF of course.

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    you must excuse my ignorance towards technical photo-stuff, on my Nikon D90 I really enjoyed the 85mm 1.4 and used this quite a lot, on my D3 the 85mm seems just a tad short for my needs, but ok though, I guess this is the difference between FF and DX which I fully understand (I think)

    So any setup between, say 90 and 135mm based upon FF will be great. I would prefer AF because manually focussing my 85 1.4, at 1.4 is quite difficult and requires some time, so working AF on any of these focal lengths should be fine.

    IQ is important up to a point that I don't pixel peep ever and am actually quite pleased with the standard kit zoom. I do however print, on average 18x13 andd 30x20cm or so with an exception up to 60/40 and sometimes larger if people require it.

    As for color rendition, I dislike "poppy" disney-colors, if the subject allows it I like to do shallow/natural colors and of course natural skin tones.

    As an historian I also do quite a lot of antiquities, where sharpness is important, but unnatural sharpness and contrast destroys the reality slightly.

    As for rendition... further... I like the Leica X1 35mm rendition, but find the Asph. 50mm cron to much of a "optimality" on digital, whereas I love this lens on analog.

    Perhaps it would help to mention that I do 50% B/W and that a tri-x (at 200/320) - rodinal solution provides the most beautiful imagery (personally that is) But having seen Steinmullers B/W's here on the thread will certainly set me off in other directions...

    Pfew ... that was it, thanks ...

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Coms37,
    Right now there is no solution on the Autofocus front. Only the two E mount lenses AF on the NEX. Manual focus on the NEX would be the equivalent to using live view to focus on the Nikons. If you have a little patience two ideas come to mind....however, as you get to these longer focal lengths manually focusing with the NEX screen in magnify mode and razor thin depth of field isn't that easy.

    1) See if there are any NEX lens announcements in the next month leading into the Photokina industry event in September.

    2) Sony has a large but excellent Zeiss 85mm lens. It won't (at least for now) autofocus on the NEX but the aperture wheel on the back of the camera will control the aperture. There is talk that eventually these lenses with AF on the NEX cameras.

    3) This week Sony announced another 85mm lens meant for their APS-c sensor cameras. It will hit the shelves in the next few months. Will work similar to number 2 above but will be smaller and lighter.

    4) There are tons of other lenses on the market made for rangefinders. These lenses are smaller than many dslr lenses because they were designed already for cameras without a mirror and to sit closer to the sensor. So, the adapters for these lenses are thinner. I have the Voigtlander 75mm f2.5 mm lens. I haven't yet tried it on the NEX. People have mentioned the 90mm Contax G.

    Hopefully this little bit is helpful. By the way, WELCOME !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by retow View Post
    For a 75mm equivalent focal length have a look at CV's 50mm Noktons, f1.5 or f1.1 are available, or Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50mm f1.5. Not so high speed, but fast enough, the CV 75mm f2.5 is a bargain (112mm equiv.)
    The 90 cron you mention will be 135mm equiv. on the Nex and quite a beast on the tiny body. The thin tele elmarit could be an alternative (f2,8). All MF of course.
    As for "beasts" on my body, I agree that things can get to large/out of proportion, but I started with Hasselblad 3 lens combos and a TLR Rolleiflex, lightmeter, 10 filters, then when I got the IQ under control used the Leica M6 with 4 lenses always accompanied by my Rolleiflex, and when going digital I had my D90 and D3 with the 24-70 the 12.24 and 85 1.4 ... now with the Nex and the X1 I see a "break" for my back just lugging 2 Nex'es and an X1 ... easy peasy.

    It really proves that evolution of cameras is a good thing, even if there are some old stick in the muds complaining about corner to corner sharpness of these "cheapo" solutions, which, if you're into achieving the best possible result will be important, but for people like me whom academically "take shots" of archeological digs, artifacts and details this new evolution of small sized digital stuff is highly appealing in terms of weight and IQ. One thing however is the opticality of the view (sorry for my english, it's not optimal) I can do the Nex with the screen pretty easily, but would appreciate a nice viewfinder, not all that important, but would be nice... perhaps in the near future. By no means is the lack of one of these a set back for me, I love my Nex just as much as I do my X1 with viewfinder...

    Anyway enough for me, having quite a slow day at university, students are on holiday, other staff are getting pleasurably drunk and I just rant about photography :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Coms37,
    Right now there is no solution on the Autofocus front. Only the two E mount lenses AF on the NEX. Manual focus on the NEX would be the equivalent to using live view to focus on the Nikons. If you have a little patience two ideas come to mind....however, as you get to these longer focal lengths manually focusing with the NEX screen in magnify mode and razor thin depth of field isn't that easy.

    1) See if there are any NEX lens announcements in the next month leading into the Photokina industry event in September.

    2) Sony has a large but excellent Zeiss 85mm lens. It won't (at least for now) autofocus on the NEX but the aperture wheel on the back of the camera will control the aperture. There is talk that eventually these lenses with AF on the NEX cameras.

    3) This week Sony announced another 85mm lens meant for their APS-c sensor cameras. It will hit the shelves in the next few months. Will work similar to number 2 above but will be smaller and lighter.

    4) There are tons of other lenses on the market made for rangefinders. These lenses are smaller than many dslr lenses because they were designed already for cameras without a mirror and to sit closer to the sensor. So, the adapters for these lenses are thinner. I have the Voigtlander 75mm f2.5 mm lens. I haven't yet tried it on the NEX. People have mentioned the 90mm Contax G.

    Hopefully this little bit is helpful. By the way, WELCOME !!!


    Thank you for the info .... I might wait a while for "number 3 solution" or any further announcements...

    and how is it that folk on this forum are friendly, cooperative and helpfull, not many fora's meet these standards ... chapeau to all contributors here!

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    With the appropriate adapter, will normal Sony AF lenses focus on the Nex?

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by Coms37 View Post
    With the appropriate adapter, will normal Sony AF lenses focus on the Nex?
    No, not for the moment and not clear if ever. Reports were that this functionality was working with the adapter on pre-production cameras. However it was disabled when the camera launched. It was said that the AF wasn't as accurate as Sony would have liked. It isn't yet clear if this is a temporary or permanent elimination of this feature. Sony has not committed to AF with the current Sony A mount lens line-up.

    My buying decision on any Sony A mount lens has assumed that it will never AF on NEX....that way I can't be disappointed if it takes too long or doesn't happen.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Got my M-mount adapter last night. Morning shots through a not so clean window, NEX 5 with cron AA 90, F8, jpegs untouched. Sharp, details, if it was RAW......
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    One cropped.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Retow,

    could you manage a shot "straight" as through not through not so clean windows, but in the open air sort of thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotoingo View Post
    There are no other AF Lenses for the Nex than the 16mm and the 18-55 right now.
    The 18-200 will be available in a little over a month:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coms37 View Post
    Retow,

    could you manage a shot "straight" as through not through not so clean windows, but in the open air sort of thing?
    Handheld, after 2 European style coffees and half a red bull
    Last edited by retow; 20th August 2010 at 04:06.

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