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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by retow View Post
    Handheld, after 2 European style coffees and half a red bull
    With 14x zoomed view that gets hard!

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    The 18-200 will be available in a little over a month:
    Yes, but will ANYONE buy this brick ?
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    Well, it *is* the only other AF lens....

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Contax 45 arrived today. Another really sweet lens.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    It's too bad there isn't an adapter for the Samsung NX10 30mm f2 pancake. That lens shows excellent optical properties in DPRs review and for only $300 looks like it would be a good deal, especially if it preserved the AF.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Indeed, I hope Sony pays notice to this design when they release their own standard prime.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Hi All, From Bangalore, India .(~20 Celcius during day!)..

    The Sony 16/2.8 simply rocks under Indian conditions (overcast now, due to monsoon)! (The Sam 30/2 was a dog)

    No pics now, I will show a few after mid Aug after getting back.

    My pen F 38/2.8 and 40/1.4 (and few longer ones) are being used for selective photography (all do nicely as I `expected them to).

    For street shooting, still the Pana G1s reign supreme!

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I'm just thinking back to joyful (simple) days with the Olympus E1, The K7 reminded me so much of that. It wouldn't impact on the Sony or Leica side of things, but neither M4/3 or the NEX is small enough to go bagless, and if you have a small bag then the K7 and a couple of primes fit nicely . . . . and it's weatherproof (I'm the guy who has had 3 cameras die a watery death!)
    I'm actually on the road right now and brought the NEX+Summarit, and while I have a bag to pack it on the plane, I've been bringing it out with me bagless and it feels really small, basically like a heavier D-Lux 4. Of course, no zoom or autofocus, and I've got but one focal length. K7 certainly was nice and the waterproofing was one of the features I liked, even if the good primes aren't covered, you can always swap in a sealed zoom (and it sounds like you put these cameras to the test more than I do!). Could be fun to adapt the 31 to the NEX at some point -- I remember really liking the look of close shots with that lens.

    When I get back next week I'll post some NEX shots. I am really liking this camera for a small high-IQ carry-everywhere and don't worry too much about it camera.

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    NEX 5 with 24 Elmarit M, f5.6 or 8, zero PP, mf or zf. Does it beat the X1 in sharpness and resolution? I think so. NEX & M optics = AF sucks, mf and zf rocks. X1 = AF...?, mf & zf sucks. Though heavier and "frontloaded", the NEX is easier and more comfortable to hold than the X1, thanks to its pronounced handgrip. If it only had an EVF
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    I tested the 28mm and 35mm Contax on my Nex against the Olympus 17mm f 2,8 pancake and the Olympus (FT) 25mm f 2,8 pancake (with FT to MFT adapter) on a E-P1 yesterday.

    Wide open the corner sharpness of the Oly Pancakes is MUCH better but the sharpness in the middle of the pictures is only slightly better.

    Closing the aperture to f5,6 on all lenses showed that the Contax G lenses outperformed the Oly lenses in the middle + about 3/4 of the picture very easily. The extreme corners are more or less equal then.

    The 35mm Contax does better in the edges than the 28mm Contax G. (as expected)

    Will test the Contax lenses on infinity today.

    BTW :
    I forgot to mention that some pictures I uploaded here (mostly the macro ones featuring flowers) shot with the Contax G lenses were shot using a Canon 250D 58mm close up lens via an 46 to 58 mm filter adapter. The minimal focus distance on the 45mm is 0,5 meter and on the 90mm 1 meter.

    Have a nice weekend everyone !
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Those 24mm Elmarit M pictures look fantastic!
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Yeah the 24 looks surprisingly good. A little darker along the edge of the thirds shot. Love to see more with the lens.

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    More with the 24mm Elmarit. Sensor and lens seem to ad up to a powerful package.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Are these images straight out of the camera with no cropping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by barjohn View Post
    Are these images straight out of the camera with no cropping?
    They are untouched. Jpegs out of camera.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Would be interesting to see how a 21mm m-mount lens performs on the NEX. Hope will see some shots soon.
    So far, used the Elmarit 24, Cron 28, Cron 35, Elmar 50, Cron AA 90 and C-Elmar 90 on the NEX. All performed excellently, clearly much better than on mft.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by retow View Post
    Would be interesting to see how a 21mm m-mount lens performs on the NEX. Hope will see some shots soon.
    So far, used the Elmarit 24, Cron 28, Cron 35, Elmar 50, Cron AA 90 and C-Elmar 90 on the NEX. All performed excellently, clearly much better than on mft.
    I used the M mount 21 Elmarit last weekend and it isn't very good as you go out to infinity both the color shift and edge sharpness.

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=546

    I will take some more today and post them.

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    ZA 85, Aperture Infrared.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by retow View Post
    Would be interesting to see how a 21mm m-mount lens performs on the NEX. Hope will see some shots soon.
    So far, used the Elmarit 24, Cron 28, Cron 35, Elmar 50, Cron AA 90 and C-Elmar 90 on the NEX. All performed excellently, clearly much better than on mft.
    Which version of the Cron 35?

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Since infinity focus seems to be where any problems show up maybe retow could give us a couple of shot with each lens at infinity so we can see how they perform. If he loads them in the gallery we can see the full size images and look at 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Which version of the Cron 35?
    The latest, cron 35 asph.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Why do problems tend to occur at infinity?

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Non-retrofocus wides bring the rear element of the lens closest to the sensor at infinity, and that can create extreme light angles at the edges of the sensor. Digital sensors don't handle these angled light rays as well as film.

    I'm surprised the new 35 'cron does well at infinity. I'd love to see samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Non-retrofocus wides bring the rear element of the lens closest to the sensor at infinity, and that can create extreme light angles at the edges of the sensor. Digital sensors don't handle these angled light rays as well as film.

    I'm surprised the new 35 'cron does well at infinity. I'd love to see samples.
    Cron asph 35, f5.6 or f8. If time permits will try to shoot better examples tomorrow, including f2.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Those look pretty darn good to me. It will be interesting to se at f2. I would also like to see the 24mm at f2.8 and infinity.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Tough to tell until we see corner crops.

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    Cron asph 35 @f2, Cron 28 @f2, Elmarit 24 @f2.8
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    Elmarit @ 2.8, Cron 28 @f2, Cron asph 35@ f2.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    here's my contributions NEX5 with 2 kit lenses

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    I hate shooting brick walls, they move so fast. Cron 35 Asph, Nr1 @ f2, soft corners, Nr2 f4 corners still somewhat soft, Nr3 @ f5.6 looks good.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Thanks for taking the time to do all of this, retow. Is it possible for you to post corner crops? It's really tough to see on some of these web sized images (especially on the infinity shots.)

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    Upper right @f2 with the 35
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    Lower left with 35 @f2
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Thanks! Were those wall shots at infinity?

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    No, about 5 yards away.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Ok, that makes sense. Smearing issues are generally a result of these lenses focused to infinity. It seems like there is some smearing in the landscape shots you posted above, but it's tough to tell with the small pics. The wall crops look pretty good. You're awesome for spending so much time on this. Thanks.

    I really just want to be sure that I find a standard prime that performs ok wide open in the middle of the frame at close ranges, but then can be stopped down and have sharp corners at infinity.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    4 new pictures with the 90mm + Close up lens Canon 250D.

    On the last one (grasshopper from behind) I really like the 3D -effect even though the picture is crap.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    When I magnify the landscape infinity shots, not just the corners are out of focus, the entire image appears to be slightly out of focus. Since you can go past infinity on these adapters, I find you have to actually select a far off target and magnify the image when focusing at or near infinity. When you go past infinity the entire image goes soft. How did you focus for infinity in your shots?
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Our local retailer (who has a great relationship with Sony and stocks their higher-end lenses like the 24-70 f/2.8, 85mm f/1.4 etc) states that a clip-on EVF is on the way for the NEX range shortly. A side effect is that one will not be able to use the EVF and the clip-on flash at the same time, since they share the same mounting spot.

    I think this might be interesting for folks who like to frame with a viewfinder than on the screen, and might save some battery power too.
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roweraay View Post
    Our local retailer (who has a great relationship with Sony and stocks their higher-end lenses like the 24-70 f/2.8, 85mm f/1.4 etc) states that a clip-on EVF is on the way for the NEX range shortly. A side effect is that one will not be able to use the EVF and the clip-on flash at the same time, since they share the same mounting spot.

    I think this might be interesting for folks who like to frame with a viewfinder than on the screen, and might save some battery power too.
    that's great to hear. though i find the lcd to be extremely good, i find i need to shoot at higher shutter speed without a viewfinder. i also have the bad habit of instinctively bringing the camera to my eye, which is less than useful.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    500 f8 mirror handheld in quite hard to focus at 7x magnification.

    Here is an unprocessed straight out of camera sample
    ISO 640 1/500s



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    A and E mount Too many lenses.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by roweraay View Post
    Our local retailer (who has a great relationship with Sony and stocks their higher-end lenses like the 24-70 f/2.8, 85mm f/1.4 etc) states that a clip-on EVF is on the way for the NEX range shortly. A side effect is that one will not be able to use the EVF and the clip-on flash at the same time, since they share the same mounting spot.

    I think this might be interesting for folks who like to frame with a viewfinder than on the screen, and might save some battery power too.
    Are you sure the retailer was NOT confusing an EVF with the OVF that works with the 16mm only? Ask him again if you can. I suspect he is confused.

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    Some from a quick trip to Plymouth this weekend.





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    Contax 35 looks good..... and then I remember I still had a box full of Contax gear, will get the respective adapter and try it out.

    My little box of Contax treasures .... glad I never sell anything...

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Interesting shot with the 500. Where did you find an umbrella surrounded by green donuts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razii View Post
    Are you sure the retailer was NOT confusing an EVF with the OVF that works with the 16mm only? Ask him again if you can. I suspect he is confused.
    Yes, I very specifically asked him about the OVF with the 16mm prime and he was absolutely certain that it is an as-yet-unannounced-to-the-wider-world EVF (which has also arrived on the new Sony Video NEX camera).
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Great news about the EVF. That would be an excellent option. Speaking of the OVF, I saw some pics of it from the rear (kind find the link,) and it almost looks like the OVF slid into a cold shoe that then attached to the camera. Now, I'm sure the OVF is glue to this cold shoe so it is all one piece, but it would be cool if Sony offered that cold shoe piece by itself for accessories.

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    A recent stitch from a trip last year...




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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Have you bought one of the NEX' , Douglas?

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