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    Wow, some awesome NEX shots here! Terry, those are fantastic!
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    Leica 28 cron, 2.0, cropped because I couldn't focus closer to the frog.

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    I love the first one a lot, beautiful combination of colors.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Terry, is it my imagination or do the raw conversions in LR 3.2RC seem sharper than the JPGs? I am traveling and only have my MacAir so I'm looking at a small screen instead of my normal 24" iMac screen.
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    They should be. Sony's jpeg engine (and raw converter) has never been known for detail. If you want to up the ante even more, try using RPP vs. LR3. RPP is an even higher level of detail.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Tom - making use of the flip out LCD!

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    Just managed to take some quick snaps outside my work... focused at infinity...

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimaki View Post
    Just managed to take some quick snaps outside my work... focused at infinity...
    Which lens?

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    Sorry, 35mm 1.4 nokton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimaki View Post
    F8
    that's looking pretty good! a little easy to correct CA but no smearing. f/1.4 doesn't look great at infinity but you're not going to find a lens in this price class that will - plus who shoots f/1.4 at infinity.

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    who shoots f/1.4 at infinity.
    good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by sebboh View Post
    that's looking pretty good! a little easy to correct CA but no smearing. f/1.4 doesn't look great at infinity but you're not going to find a lens in this price class that will - plus who shoots f/1.4 at infinity.
    Yeah, F8 seems to look great at infinity, so I'm happy. I don't think my Sony 50mm 1.4 does any better in the corners on my A900. I'm glad I took the risk and already ordered the CV 35 1.4

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    If a lens works well on the RD1 (APS-C) should be it be assumed that it would work well on the NEX? I have never heard of smearing problems on the RD1 (the original Sean Reid review on LL mentions vignetting but not smearing.)

    Thoughts?

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    I used a number of CV lenses on my R-D1s and never had a smearing issue.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    I've been wondering the same. I would guess it has to do with how the microlenses and other sensor toppings compare.

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    The RD1 does not have M8-style micro lenses, AFAIK. So, if it works on the RD1...

    More from Sean Reid about this, here: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...8&postcount=29

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    Yeah, I know, but Vivek has written about how sensor topping thickness can vary from company to company, and the thinner the better, in this case. Who knows if the RD1 and NEX have similar thicknesses? m4/3's is incredibly thick.

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    Novoflex has their NEX adapters online
    http://sonyalphanex.blogspot.com/201...x-e-mount.html

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    Hey, just got some good information about new lenses. A reliable source from which I have got some right information in the past has told me, Sony will bring up 4 new lenses with E-mount at the Photokina. One of them will be a 70mm f1.8 macro which will go on sale this year for about 700 (euros, I don't know the dollar price).

    I wasn't able to get exact information about the other three, but I expect one or two with fixed focal length (maybe 35 and 45mm) and maybe a telezoom or a good Zeiss. The informations are really solid.

    Also interesting: Sony isn't planning another NEX-camera for 2010, so the NEX-7 won't come up this year. I got this information for the blog I'm writing for (www.Apfelwahn.de), and this source was right everytime I can remember.

    What do you think: what the other three lenses will be?

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    Hey, just got some good information about new lenses. A reliable source from which I have got some right information in the past has told me, Sony will bring up 4 new lenses with E-mount at the Photokina. One of them will be a 70mm f1.8 macro which will go on sale this year for about 700 (euros, I don't know the dollar price).

    I wasn't able to get exact information about the other three, but I expect one or two with fixed focal length (maybe 35 and 45mm) and maybe a telezoom or a good Zeiss. The informations are really solid.

    Also interesting: Sony isn't planning another NEX-camera for 2010, so the NEX-7 won't come up this year. I got this information for the blog I'm writing for (www.Apfelwahn.de), and this source was right everytime I can remember.

    What do you think: what the other three lenses will be?
    Does your source have any info on possible add-on EVF for NEX 3/5?

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    Does your source have any info on possible add-on EVF for NEX 3/5?
    Hmm ... nothing he has told me. I'm going to ask about it the next days. But hasn't Sony said the port doesn't support an EVF? Or would it be possible with an firmware update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimaki View Post
    Just managed to take some quick snaps outside my work... focused at infinity...
    Thanks a bunch for these. The lens certainly looks promising. And after one factors in the price, the max aperture and the petite size, it comes across as a sure winner in my book.
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    But hasn't Sony said the port doesn't support an EVF?
    Have Sony said this? I'm hearing persistent reports (rumors) that an EVF is in the planning. Sure would be nice to know definitively. I'm certainly counting on buying a couple for my NEX 5s.

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    Oh, the humanity! I ordered my NEX-5 and CV 35 last week, and they didn't ship my NEX until two days ago, so I won't receive it until next week. This morning, I see the above tests, and then my lens arrives! So, now I have this cool little M lens with no home, and the wait for the camera (and adapter) will be unbearable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roweraay View Post
    Thanks a bunch for these. The lens certainly looks promising. And after one factors in the price, the max aperture and the petite size, it comes across as a sure winner in my book.
    Looks very good, only issue I would have is I'd want closer focus. But any other option at that speed/price are going to be SLR lenses and much bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    Hmm ... nothing he has told me. I'm going to ask about it the next days. But hasn't Sony said the port doesn't support an EVF? Or would it be possible with an firmware update?
    Could you point to some source that says the port doesn't support an EVF ? It is certainly a powered port and even the flash draws its power from there and clearly there is communication between the flash and the camera via the port.

    Our local retailer (a premier Sony retailer who stocks really high-end Sony products, upto an including the A900 and Sony CZ and G lenses) who typically gets advance information on upcoming Sony products, was pretty emphatic that an EVF was on the way for the NEX (and they confirmed that they were not talking about the 16mm's OVF). And he was specific to the point of telling that the EVF and the Flash shares the same port and that when the EVF is on, the flash cannot be used.

    And clearly, since the Sony NEX camcorder has an EVF, it is not an impossibility to create a separate EVF module that can be sold separately for the NEX cameras.

    PS: When the Sony A-mount-to-NEX lens adapter was/is pretty much out-of-stock everywhere else in the country, including within Sonystyle and also places like B&H, I merrily walked into this retailer's store and snagged one of those....they had 2 of them in stock (had them in the warehouse but I got them the very next day) !
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    I'm pretty sure I've read this in some blog articles when the NEX launched. I search tomorrow through my RSS-archive and give you a link. Maybe the articles were just bad researched.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    I was going to do some testing . . . . but it's so much more fun snappin' away!

    These shots are all wide open - Raw files processed in Aperture.

    Leica f2 75mm summicron asph 1600 ISO:


    Leica f2 75mm summicron asph 1600 ISO:


    Zeiss 135mm f1.8 200 ISO . . . . looks so silly on the Nex, but handles really well:


    Leica 50mm f1.4 summilux asph 250 ISO



    I also tried the new 35 'lux and the WATE - both seemed to be fine.

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    Nice pictures !
    Wow, you have some nice lenses

    Here is one picture from today in the park.
    The little rabbit was not really scared of me so I could get really close.
    I attached the picture and a 100% crop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fotoingo View Post
    Nice pictures !
    Wow, you have some nice lenses
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    Quote Originally Posted by fotoingo View Post
    Here is one picture from today in the park.
    The little rabbit was not really scared of me so I could get really close.
    I attached the picture and a 100% crop.
    Contax G 90mm f5,6
    I hope it was a 'well' rabbit, they don't usually sit about like that.
    Nice shot though . . . I lament selling that lens a few years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by roweraay View Post
    Thanks a bunch for these. The lens certainly looks promising. And after one factors in the price, the max aperture and the petite size, it comes across as a sure winner in my book.
    No probs, your welcome, Its a great little combo for the money. Im looking forward to using it some more this weekend, Its quite nice wide open at close distances... Im happy. 1.4 and useable ISO 3200 is a big improvement over my m8..

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    A couple from Ireland....more to come with more time and better internet




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    Great, Terry! That boat shot is right up my alley.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    The NEX-5 finally arrived, so I threw on the CV 35 1.4 Nokton for a quick walk around the block. No test shots here, and nothing too special. Overall, I really like this combo. The lens needs around +5 distortion correction in LR3, and the corners don't seem to sharpen up until around f8 (maybe f5.6,) but I'm digging the lens overall. Having a usable f1.4 is nice on this little guy, and I'm getting used to using an LCD to frame. I wish the top soft button controlled MF zoom, because I have a hard time getting to the lower button when the camera is at my waist/chest. All in all, I'm happy with it, though.











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    Interesting block!
    Have fun!

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    Should receive my NEX5 kit in the next few days - really looking forward to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Interesting block!
    Have fun!
    Our little residential street is close to Melrose, so it doesn't take long to walk to various alleys.

    I really like how inconspicuous shooting at waist level is with NEX. If I walk down Melrose with the A900, people wonder if I'm with TMZ, but no one even notices the NEX-5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    The NEX-5 finally arrived, so I threw on the CV 35 1.4 Nokton for a quick walk around the block. No test shots here, and nothing too special. Overall, I really like this combo. The lens needs around +5 distortion correction in LR3, and the corners don't seem to sharpen up until around f8 (maybe f5.6,) but I'm digging the lens overall. Having a usable f1.4 is nice on this little guy, and I'm getting used to using an LCD to frame. I wish the top soft button controlled MF zoom, because I have a hard time getting to the lower button when the camera is at my waist/chest. All in all, I'm happy with it, though.
    Glad you like you new camera/lens combo. Yeah, having usable f/1.4 is definitely a great thing to have, especially in a lens/camera combo as light as it is, while sporting an APS-C sensor.

    Hope to see more pictures from you.

    My lens will arrive today, and hopefully my adapter will also be arriving soon.
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    If I walk down Melrose with the A900, people wonder if I'm with TMZ, but no one even notices the NEX-5.
    Precisely the point of the NEX. In places where they would prohibit an SLR, the NEX5 can slip right in, since people assume it is a typical p&s.
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Oddly enough, I kind of like the ergonomics of my 50mm with the Alpha adapter better than my little M lens, because it sits nicely in the hand, and the focusing ring is in a good place. I may get the new cheapie Sony 35/1.8 for when being as small as possible isn't a priority.

    Overall, I'm pretty impressed with the NEX files. They don't look all that different from my A900, outside of the obvious resolution advantage.

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    Congrats Douglas on your new NEX 5!
    Was the shot of the wifey wide-open?

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    Yeah, I believe that it was wide open. The focus wasn't nailed perfectly, as it was one of the first few shots that I took with the camera. Overall, I'd say the CV 35/1.4 is pretty good wide open. My only real issue is the occasional purple fringing around blown out highlight areas, but that's not uncommon with some older Leica's on digital, either. I haven't shot with the lens enough for any real commentary on it, but, I'm pretty happy so far.

    I opted for the single coated version of the lens, and I'm digging the slightly lower contrast. The single coat is a little misleading, because it is still quite good, and probably comparable to many of the older multi-coats. I took a couple of quick shots this morning with my SMC Takumar 50 1.4, and the two lenses look like they'll go nicely together.

    With all of that being said, if Sony (hopefully Zeiss) makes a few good primes that are high quality and still relatively small, I'll be in heaven with this little cam. I can see my A900 trembling a little, because I'll probably use it for more purpose driven shoots where size isn't an issue...and I haven't been doing that as much, lately.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Oddly enough, I kind of like the ergonomics of my 50mm with the Alpha adapter better than my little M lens, because it sits nicely in the hand, and the focusing ring is in a good place. I may get the new cheapie Sony 35/1.8 for when being as small as possible isn't a priority.
    can I say "told you so!"

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    I know, I know. You're absolutely correct. Anyone who has an S2 in their avatar should be taken very seriously! Granted, size is still my main priority with this camera, so I don't know how much I'd actually use the Alpha 35mm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Yeah, I believe that it was wide open. The focus wasn't nailed perfectly, as it was one of the first few shots that I took with the camera. Overall, I'd say the CV 35/1.4 is pretty good wide open. My only real issue is the occasional purple fringing around blown out highlight areas, but that's not uncommon with some older Leica's on digital, either. I haven't shot with the lens enough for any real commentary on it, but, I'm pretty happy so far.

    I opted for the single coated version of the lens, and I'm digging the slightly lower contrast. The single coat is a little misleading, because it is still quite good, and probably comparable to many of the older multi-coats. I took a couple of quick shots this morning with my SMC Takumar 50 1.4, and the two lenses look like they'll go nicely together.

    With all of that being said, if Sony (hopefully Zeiss) makes a few good primes that are high quality and still relatively small, I'll be in heaven with this little cam. I can see my A900 trembling a little, because I'll probably use it for more purpose driven shoots where size isn't an issue...and I haven't been doing that as much, lately.
    I think you nailed the focus pretty well. I like the look with the narrower DOF of the 1.4 so that there is more separation between subject and background.
    What I see is a natural loss of contrast due to coma which is normal with fast lenses at 1.4 especially without asph elements.
    What I am wondering is if the 1.5 crop of the NEX seems to amplify the amount of coma compared to if it was shot on a FF camera where the pixel density is lesser? I usually only shoot my fast glass on a FF camera so I haven't tested this before. Does that make sense?

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Hmm, hard to say. I also went super light on the contrast during the raw conversion in order to make it soft looking, so that may be part of what you're seeing. From what I've seen so far, in regards to "glow," I'd say the CV 35 1.4 is about on par with other non-asph fast primes wide open. Maybe I'll post another conversion with more standard settings so that you can compare them.
    Last edited by douglasf13; 17th August 2010 at 17:10.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Wayne, I reprocessed the raw to show more "normal" levels of contrast and saturation. The original version (at the bottom) was purposefully made a little light on contrast and unsaturated, which didn't really give a good sense of how the lens really renders. This new version is just basic exposure adjustments, with saturation and vibrance on zero. The contrast is still not cranked up all that much, obviously.





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