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    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post



    Not exactly in the dark side...

    Excellent image David !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark K View Post
    Before I have the tiny Nex, a850 was my day in and day out camera
    Very nice Mark !

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Woohoo I'm somewhere over Maine and the wifi service has just kicked in. Looks like an interesting product. As you say, pricey. Adding the NEX to my camera bag is a breeze and gives me a "social" camera at the same time so I'm pretty darn happy to have it.
    Terry, One word- avoid. You would be sorely disappointed.

    I bought a version of this several years ago and I can assure you that the "live view" isn't live at all when compared to the NEX or the superlative G1 (why I keep saying that the EVF and the swivel LCD alone are worth the original prices of a G1).

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Ingo, these look very good. Were they straight handheld shots or did you use the hand held twilight mode?

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Terry, One word- avoid. You would be sorely disappointed.

    I bought a version of this several years ago and I can assure you that the "live view" isn't live at all when compared to the NEX or the superlative G1 (why I keep saying that the EVF and the swivel LCD alone are worth the original prices of a G1).
    I have not tried this yet, but their literature states that the refresh rate is 25FPS or thereabouts, which should be good enough, I guess, for static or other non-fast-moving subjects ? When you say you bought this several years back, was it the same thing or was it an earlier version that was cruder and did not perform as well ? Do you know if the new version is the same as the one you tried or has there been any changes since then ? Just curious, since I was planning to pick one of these up and needed to have some additional perspectives on this from people who have tried this out.

    Either way, this was a suggestion made for the A900 (100% OVF), which does not have a tilting/swiveling screen, nor live-view in any shape or form. The A900's 100% OVF is larger/brighter than even the 100% OVF employed by the Nikon D3S or D3X, but the camera itself does have the shortcoming of not being suitable for overhead type shots.
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by fotoingo View Post
    Here are some pictures featuring the Nex 16mm and my Contax G-Lenses.

    No tripod used.

    --
    BTW : There are coloured corners with the 28mm Contax too. (Not only with the 21mm)
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    These look really good ! Also, the color shifts in the corners are probably an effect of the edges not being able to gather light, due to the extreme angles involved, when focused at infinity.
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    I got back to the US this AM and just got off the phone with Sony. I took two NEX's with me. At the beginning of the trip one of the cameras started acting a little "wonky". Even when something was very overexposed it was not flashing on the screen. I can go into manual mode and totally blow out the highlights and again it doesn't flash on the screen. I can do the exact same thing with the second camera and all is fine. Also when I was bringing the massively overexposed files into Lightroom they weren't showing anything blown at 255 but stopped short at 251-254. I reset the camera a couple of times but that didn't help.

    So, it is being shipped off to Sony this AM and I will keep you up to date with what the service department has to say.....

    p.s. They wanted me to ship it without a lens.....I chuckled and said that would be much easier if I had a body cap .

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    -- snip --

    p.s. They wanted me to ship it without a lens.....I chuckled and said that would be much easier if I had a body cap .

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    HDR at very bad light situation (2/3 EF bracketing is not much). Still got it nailed:

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Uwe, you got a lot of terrific shots at this site.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Ingo, these look very good. Were they straight handheld shots or did you use the hand held twilight mode?
    No Twilight mode used. Just normal handheld. Mostly at f2 till f4.

    Quote Originally Posted by roweraay View Post
    These look really good ! Also, the color shifts in the corners are probably an effect of the edges not being able to gather light, due to the extreme angles involved, when focused at infinity.
    Thank you to both of you.
    Yeah, that is my guess too. The colour shift comes from the very rounded glaslens ath the inner end of the 28mm.

    Here are some more pictures from the "Cranger Kirmes":


    ?Contax G 45 mm?


    Sony NEX 16mm f16



    (this one was shot with using a fence for a steadier shot) Contax G 90mm


    (this one too was shot with using a fence for a steadier shot) Contax G 90mm



    And the last one. (also using the fence) Contax G 90mm

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    roweraay, I think you made a wise decision on canceling the 21mm order

    I have not experienced a color shift that I have noticed yet with the 28mm, fotoingo. To me your pic's look great but not being there to see the actual colors maybe I could see what you are referring to.

    I can't test right now as my NEX5 is headed in for warranty/repair for either dust or a issue with the sensor. I could not see any dust but then again my eye's aren't what they once were either. Either way I wasn't going to try anything more than a magnum blower ball to try and correct the issue. At my age that is as intricate as I get

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    I didnt meant a colour shift on those Kirmes pictures. I havent used the 28mm very much when shooting the pictures so I cant really tell which pics (of all the pics i shot that evening) where actually shot with the 28mm.
    But when shooting daylight pictures the 28mm gives me those colour shifts. I mentioned it because in this thread (or the other one (nex+non nex lenses) someone wrote about colour shift with the 21mm.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    Uwe, you got a lot of terrific shots at this site.

    Diane
    Thanks. I thought this shot was kind of impossible but the NEX bracketing made it.
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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Here is a Contax G 28 mm @ f2.8 and focused at infinity. You can see the smearing but the colors were right as they were. Just my results outside with my 28mm



    This was strictly a test shot I made to test smearing. The various green colors are how they really are back there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim DE View Post
    Here is a Contax G 28 mm @ f2.8 and focused at infinity. You can see the smearing but the colors were right as they were. Just my results outside with my 28mm



    This was strictly a test shot I made to test smearing. The various green colors are how they really are back there.
    thanks for the post, how is it at f/8?

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    No smearing at all at f8 marginal at 5.6. Inside of infinity focus at indoor distances no smearing at even F2.8.

    Smearing seems to show it's face only at or near infinity focus and then only at 5.6 and larger apertures. One can use a sharpening brush on areas of mild smearing and correct most of it even at full open.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Even when I magnify the image using the iMac's screen magnification on a 24" montior I don't see the smearing you are talking about. I see the whole image being slightly out of focus but that could be because you went past the actual infinity focus point with a shallow DOF.

    Magnified center crop below:
    V/r John

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    I feel pretty condfident at this point in saying that the CV 35/1.4 has zero issues with smearing. The corners aren't super sharp until around f5.6- f8, but that is the field curvature of the fast lens. If I focus zoom in on the corners at f4 and focus the corners themselves, rather than the center, the corners are reasonably sharp, but at the expense of center sharpness. This is pretty common for fast lenses. Oddly enough, I discovered this because my M adapter focuses past infinity, and focusing the corners slightly past infinity improves them.
    Last edited by douglasf13; 20th August 2010 at 21:42.

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    Barjohn, Screen magnification always makes things look slightly out of focus as you try zooming in ...... I know my iMac does and this Photobucket rendering is not as sharp as the original image on my network for some reason. Occasionally, I get this on photobucket during the upload process. The point of focus was the back tree line. Look at the upper left and right corners at the leaf patterns you'll see it.... it's there as much as I wished it wasn't because next to my 21mm on My Contax G2 this lens was my next favorite for IQ.

    But I still use this lens because I like the 42mm perspective it gives me on the NEX. I just work around by using 5.6 or greater when focused at infinity. No real big deal Though I have seen if you do go past infinity the rear plastic tabs in the lens do make slight contact with the cameras blackout area inside the lens mounting area. You always want to take the lens off with the focus dialed to a closer focus to avoid this possible contact issue

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by roweraay View Post
    I have not tried this yet, but their literature states that the refresh rate is 25FPS or thereabouts, which should be good enough, I guess, for static or other non-fast-moving subjects ? When you say you bought this several years back, was it the same thing or was it an earlier version that was cruder and did not perform as well ? Do you know if the new version is the same as the one you tried or has there been any changes since then ? Just curious, since I was planning to pick one of these up and needed to have some additional perspectives on this from people who have tried this out.

    Either way, this was a suggestion made for the A900 (100% OVF), which does not have a tilting/swiveling screen, nor live-view in any shape or form. The A900's 100% OVF is larger/brighter than even the 100% OVF employed by the Nikon D3S or D3X, but the camera itself does have the shortcoming of not being suitable for overhead type shots.
    Given your requirements, I would still strongly suggest that you check out one in person if possible before paying the money.

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    re: Fun With Sony _____

    A900 CZ 135/1.8 @ISO 640



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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post


    kit lens ISO 500 f5

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    Hi Jono,

    Sorry to interrupt your testing but this is an excellent image !

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by gilgameshist View Post
    Hi Jono,

    Sorry to interrupt your testing but this is an excellent image !

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    Hi MG
    Thank you!

    Oh! I'm not testing anymore - boring stuff. Just having fun with the camera. . . Mostly with the kit lens.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim DE View Post
    Here is a Contax G 28 mm @ f2.8 and focused at infinity. You can see the smearing but the colors were right as they were. Just my results outside with my 28mm
    This was strictly a test shot I made to test smearing. The various green colors are how they really are back there.
    Here is the red corner from the 28mm f2,8 I wrote about some postings ago.

    I you take pictures with cold white balance (like the tree picture) you will mostly not see it. But use a warmer white balance (shadow for example) and it will be there. Not a really big portion of the picture but nonetheless its there. (in my pictures)

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    Quote Originally Posted by barjohn View Post
    ... I see the whole image being slightly out of focus but that could be because you went past the actual infinity focus point with a shallow DOF.
    Or it could be because the lens is not really sharp at f 2,8 on the Nex (in the edges)

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    Wonder why it didn't show to a degree in the other corners? Are you using their lens hoods? All my lenses except the 21 have the Contax lens hoods and caps with contax uv filters. Maybe there is something there? I usually leave my WB on Auto unless I have a specific need. I just looked through all of them and can't find one that exhibits that trait. In 28, 45, or 90 being as those are the ones I use.

    I just got to thinking you may of posted a cropped single corner view so that might be the reason only one corner shows it. Did all 4 corners show it in the pic or only the edge closest to the sun?

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    I use the 28, 35, 45 and 90mm (without filters, hood etc.) and this appears only with the 28mm. The crop above was shot like 5 minutes ago.

    I processed the picture the same way with Bibble and the red appears to be less. The former picture was processed with Lightroom...

    The sun is more or less in my back but yes the corner is the "nearest" to the sun and it shows the most red in this situation.
    The other corners show it too but only a tiny amount and the other lenses dont show it at all.

    ---Edit--
    I attached one more picture which shows the vignetting + the bit magenta in the corners. Especially looks on the bricks of the building.
    Last edited by fotoingo; 21st August 2010 at 06:33.

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    Thanks fotoingo..... when my NEX5 returns from Larado, TX service center I will do some testing to see if I can recreate it with mine.

    What F stop was that shot and does F stop seem to make a difference like it does with smearing?

    I use Photoshop CS5/Adobe bridge and now I added Aperture 3 to process RAW files. At first used bridge and the Sony Raw processing program. I really haven't seen this issue but will take shots that will specifically show it if it is there when I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilgameshist View Post
    Very nice Mark !

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    Mark,

    I agree, it is a very nice picture.
    What lens did you use?

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    some more random shots with the NEX-3

    pen f 42mm f/1.2:








    one from the rokkor MD 24mm f/2.8:


    and one from the pen f 38mm f/1.8:


    right after i said i wasn't going buy this lens i found one for a little over $50 and couldn't resist.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by sebboh View Post
    some more random shots with the NEX-3

    pen f 42mm f/1.2:

    one from the rokkor MD 24mm f/2.8:

    and one from the pen f 38mm f/1.8:

    right after i said i wasn't going buy this lens i found one for a little over $50 and couldn't resist.
    Nice ones :-)

    Since the Pen F lenses are not that expensive maybe I will get them a try too

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Quote Originally Posted by fotoingo View Post

    Since the Pen F lenses are not that expensive maybe I will get them a try too


    Sebboh, Nice examples.

    I am waiting for the next NEX iterations with a decent EVF and A33/55 style LCD to make good use of the pen F lenses.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Sebboh, You are making excellent use of the Pen-F 42 f/1.2.
    You really got a good deal on the 38 f/1.8. I paid 3x that for mine....but I still consider minel a bargain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    Sebboh, You are making excellent use of the Pen-F 42 f/1.2.
    You really got a good deal on the 38 f/1.8. I paid 3x that for mine....but I still consider minel a bargain.
    thanks, i was very surprised to win that ebay auction. the glass on the lens is in great shape too. not sure if the aperture is actually doing anything between f/1.8 and f/2 though. i'll have to play with a bit more before i decide whether it's worth keeping or if i'll just always use the 42mm. the lens is tiny, but functionally it isn't that much smaller on the NEX.

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    took the nex-5 out for a bike ride.

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    re: Fun With Sony _____

    Here's another multi shot stich, this one with the Leica R 28mm elmarit...



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    A couple that were cut (due to the 10 pic limit) from my "Hi" thread....

    Valley of the Gods, UT


    Pisgah National Forest, NC

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    NEX 5 18-55 CS5

    Amsterdam Docklands

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Boket from the Olympus pen F 42/1.2 (wide open).

    Near the closest focus distance:


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr


    Near portrait distance:


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    That's splendid Vivek
    . . . . but what's he eating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterv View Post
    NEX 5 18-55 CS5

    Amsterdam Docklands
    This is a beautiful photo!

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    re: Fun With Sony _____

    Newly processed image:




    Taken at the Laurentian Library in Florence.

    A900 and Leica 35mm summicron. ISO 6400 , 1/40 @ f4.0

    (I'm not sure why this came in so small compared to the others I've uploaded...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irenaeus View Post
    This is a beautiful photo!

    Irenaeus
    Thanks, after playing with the NEX 5 for one month I'm getting more and more confident that the photo's made with this small camera are very usable. There are times it's just not practical to lug two a900's with CZ glass around. I think the NEX 5 will be quite capable for 30 x 45 cm prints. All in all I'm getting more and more content with my Sony Alpha camera's.

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    Re: Fun with the NEX cameras....

    Thanks, Jono. He was cooking- just a toast and a plain omelette.

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    Fun with Sony at the 2010 Monterey Historics... EXIF intact.

















    α900+VG|F20|2xF58|16-35,24-70,135Z|STF|70-400G|50,85 1.4|16,20,28,100M,80-200APO f/2.8|28-135|500f/8|1x-3xMacro|2xMFC-1000|Tiltall+RRS, Bellows, etc.

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    Hi i've been lurking ard these forums for some time - first post

    I recently added the nex5 to my Nikon collection as I wanted something light to supplement my Nikon Slrs. The nex is really fun. As fun as shooting with my old Bessa-R on film.

    Right now I'm thinking of purchasing an M mount 28mm (for a 42mm fov). Has anyone tried the Voigtlander 28/2 Ultron yet? I'm also curious as to how the ZM 28 will work on the nex, since in general I read that non retrofocused designed lenses don't adapt well?

    Thanks! and the posts on dpi have been v informative. It's a nice change from some other camera forums I've encountered. : p
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    A900 CZ 135/1.8 @ISO 320

    the interface


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    Quote Originally Posted by gilgameshist View Post
    A900 CZ 135/1.8 @ISO 320

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    Great capture and exposure.
    It's always great to see what the ZA 135 can do.

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    Does anyone know how to link from Flickr? They seem to have changed something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_Green View Post
    Does anyone know how to link from Flickr? They seem to have changed something.
    Bring up the pic you want on Flickr. Then above the pic is the Share this drop down menu. There you can grab the link or the HTML, copy and paste here.

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