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    Night with the Minolta 50mm/1.7

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    Another with the small 50mm

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    Last one for now

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    Nice, David! I like the first one most.
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    Some Lebanese food from yesterday, 24-70 at 70mm f/18.


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    David , i love the one of the restaurant .

    Cheers

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    Autumn is here in Madrid , Fall is beginning

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    Wu Shu practice in Bei Hai Parc in Beijing:

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    I didn't have my long zoom with me, so I used my Sony 135/1.8 + a Kenko 1.4X for this shot of the Gannets that were close to the Ferry Boat we were on.

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    A forest-fire sunset, Grand Teton NP, Wyoming, last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    A forest-fire sunset, Grand Teton NP, Wyoming, last week.

    That is "ultra superior" Bill!
    You are making that gear sing for you

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    Some from yesterday:







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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    Yes, it really does have a great 3D feel...looks like she is going to walk right off the screen into my office!

    Keep trying to convince my friend who is a dedicated Sony/Zeiss lover that this is the camera he needs to get. If I didn't already have so much invested in Canon gear, I would probably go for it myself.

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    Gary, have your pal e-mail me ... I'll convince him. The good thing about Canon is that there are so many people using it that used gear commands a decent price ... so it's not to hard to get out of it without taking to severe of a financial bath ... anything to escape those waxy files

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    That is "ultra superior" Bill!
    You are making that gear sing for you
    Thanks, Marc, tho' in truth the scenery made the shot more than I!

    More to come in the MF thread...

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    Been awhile since I posted images here ... been screwing around a lot on the M9 threads since its launch.

    But the A900 does it's share of shooting at every wedding ... mostly the longer lenses since I don't have a longer lens beyond the 85/1.4 for the Nikon (waiting for the new AFS 70-200/2.8 nano coated version with improved VR) ... so the ZA 85/1.4 and 135/1.8 gets used a fair amount with the Sony 70-200/2.8 used on a tripod to shoot stuff from the church balcony ... sometimes with the 1.4X.

    A few snaps from the Sony ... the group shot was done with the ZA 24-70 @ 24mm. the rest with the ZA 85/1.4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Thanks, Marc, tho' in truth the scenery made the shot more than I!

    More to come in the MF thread...

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    You are too modest Bill. The separation of darks is excellent. Well done!

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    Interestingly this shot has had no "extra" post processing - it's all C1 defaults.
    I usually bump both contrast and saturation a bit but the image didn't need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post

    That is "ultra superior" Bill!
    You are making that gear sing for you
    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Been awhile since I posted images here ... been screwing around a lot on the M9 threads since its launch.

    But the A900 does it's share of shooting at every wedding ... mostly the longer lenses since I don't have a longer lens beyond the 85/1.4 for the Nikon (waiting for the new AFS 70-200/2.8 nano coated version with improved VR) ... so the ZA 85/1.4 and 135/1.8 gets used a fair amount with the Sony 70-200/2.8 used on a tripod to shoot stuff from the church balcony ... sometimes with the 1.4X.

    A few snaps from the Sony ... the group shot was done with the ZA 24-70 @ 24mm. the rest with the ZA 85/1.4.
    I always admire your wedding shots - perhaps because it's an area in which I have no expertise whatsoever. I find the second image where the bride looks directly at the camera very compelling.
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    Another Volleyball shot.

    Good muscle tone on these girls!

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    OK

    So I sent my M8 and my D3 to forum members and while I was out shopping this weekend I fell into an a850.

    Files are stunning...

    BUT a couple of questions.

    What were they thinking with the flash system?

    Where are all of the great lenses that I intimated were available from reading these threads? No wide primes from CZ; nothing in the intermediate 200 400 F4 range from CZ; no easy route to adapt ZF lenses.

    While the chip and screen are wonderful there is a lack of major support peripherals.

    I miss my mainstream cameras...I shot some pictures at the baptism of a friend's child with my wife's Canon Rebel XSi. TTL flash with 24 - 105 just so that I did not blow the shots.

    Here are a couple of captures with the Macro 50 F2.8 handheld:

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    As I look at these files I know the potential is there but I would like a complete system.

    Thoughts?

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    As I look at these files I know the potential is there but I would like a complete system.

    Thoughts?

    Bob

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    Well... you're not going to get it

    Use 3rd party flashes or studio light systems (I've never used the Nikon flash systems other than for mild shooting jobs anyway.. not enough power nor can I shoot fast enough) Look at something like a Quantum system if you're serious.

    You can also get a hotshoe adapter from Sony that let's you mount your SB800 in auto mode (not TTL) and it works just fine.

    You're going to have to purchase the sony 70-400mm G zoom to get in that range (or the 70-200)

    Both great zooms but no... not primes.

    The 24-70 CZ has served me well as has the 135mm f1.8. Nothing wrong with the 85mm & 100mm Zeiss glass either.
    Personally... I like the auto focus Zeiss glass that is available with the Sony instead of the manual focus alternative ZF lenses.

    I have five CZ ZF lenses (25mm to 100mm Makro) and have found suitable adapters from E-Bay that work just fine.
    But... again... it's not auto focus.

    The sensor quality is marvelous but you will have to find work-arounds to make your "complete" system. Otherwise... just go drop 8 grand on a D3X

    Personally... I would not do it (buy the D3X) ... hence the Sony system

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    Quote Originally Posted by APY_JR View Post
    Hi Bob,

    Well... you're not going to get it


    Albert
    I know that you are correct. I have the flash adapter and can use my Nikon SB800 Canon 430 or my Metz 54 Z3 as on camera flash or my Profoto D1 Airs when needed but at this level it still seems like a work around solution.
    I shudder at the thought of adding yet another flash that is proprietary.

    I know that there are some wonderful zoom Sony lenses but does anyone imagine for a moment that they are superior to well designed primes...has anyone wondered why Zeiss has not dropped their prime glass into a Sony AF mounting? They could do it for Contax, who at Sony is so wedded to the old Minolta glass that they are unable to supply us with a 21, 28, 35 or 50/100 macro? Adapters that need a generic unscripted glass to reach infinity focus defeat the whole concept of Zeiss glass.

    Again, the files are so good that I feel we could do so much more with a bit more investment by Sony in the systems future.

    But you are correct...the D3x is way too dear for my tastes...and after divesting myself of the other cameras I have the funds. I am just weary of dropping major funds on cameras that devalue faster than the US economy has over the past 18 months.

    So I will look at the 70 - 400 and the 24-70 and the 16 - whatever but I will know that a simple 21, 35, 50, 135, 400 prime would suite my needs just fine. It is a little incongruous when my MF system weighs less than my 35 DSLR.

    Michael Reichmann recently advocated the adoption of DNG as an output for their cameras. As C1 does not recognize a850 files at the present I would love to see that instituted.

    So while enticed by the camera I have not committed to it yet...time will tell if the compromises will outweigh the deficits.

    Sorry for the rant....your insights and thoughts are appreciated.


    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    As I look at these files I know the potential is there but I would like a complete system.

    Thoughts?

    Bob

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    Bob, there should be no reason you had to use a Canon to shoot a Baptism if you had a Sony. Why was that?

    The flash is very good, and one of the easiest to control out there. The top model is very innovative for on-camera flash as it rotates to allow use of diffusers in the upright position in portrait orientation.

    The system is relatively young and I'm sure will grow. However, it will be some time before T/S lenses come ... if ever. The Sony 70-200/2.8 is an APO lens and holds it's own with any of the Zeiss ZA lenses.

    However, I will NOT be without a "system" camera and also use a D3X (which is a terrific camera) ... so, between the two kits anything is possible. It's just a matter of application, priorities, and of course investment to achieve both.

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    What were they thinking with the flash system?
    They were thinking, "Why in all this time has nobody improved on the ISO shoe? Surely people must be tired of their flashes loosening and falling off." And on the sixth day(somewhere in the mid-80's) Minolta created the iISO shoe and saw that it was good.

    Seriously, once you get used to it it's fantastic. One hand to install or remove, and it never comes loose. I find going back to ISO shoes annoying, though I still do live with it when I dust off the old gear and run film through for old time's sake. And do take a look at the F58 and F20; the former is a very nice, very capable piece, which can be wirelessly controlled by the latter. The F20 is a nice fill-flash with bounce, a bit stronger than most built-ins, that fits in a shirt pocket easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    They could do it for Contax, who at Sony is so wedded to the old Minolta glass that they are unable to supply us with a 21, 28, 35 or 50/100 macro?
    The Minolta/Sony 20 2.8 isn't a bad piece of glass at all -- I posted some car pics earlier in the thread that were shot with this lens. If you really, really need 21mm just crop it ~5%.

    The Minolta 100 2.8 Macro and derivatives are very sharp lenses, some CA near 1:1 but less so on a good copy.

    No, these are not CZ lenses but they are nothing to be ashamed of. Take a look at the lens database over on dyxum.com if you want to see what options there are. There are user reviews on Dxum and usually each lens page has links to a few reviews on other sites. They also have lens threads where people post images from a particular lens so you can see many examples from different people without having to weed through to find images from a lens you are interested in. They also have a for sale section over there. If what you want out of a 35 is incredible bokeh, get the 35 1.4; there is one up for sale at Dyxum. If you want incredible sharpness, get a 35 f2. Not so easy to find but worth the hunt from all accounts.

    If you really, really must have Zeiss primes you're a bit hosed at the moment. If it's the results that you're after, there is some Minolta glass out there that won't disappoint -- just shop carefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Bob, there should be no reason you had to use a Canon to shoot a Baptism if you had a Sony. Why was that?


    -Marc
    Truthfully I debated using the Sony but my dealer only had one a850 no flashes and I was left with a 50 F2.8 Macro (very nice lens) and one of three off brand flashes. Jumping from portraits to group shots with varying distances I felt better using TTL and a 24-105 (OK lens) in order to minimize multiple changes on the flash to compensate for distances if I got too far back for a group and needed to boost flash level or too close for a portrait.
    Hard to capture a decisive moment when your flow is less than smooth.

    The majority of the family do not attend any service regularly and looked like deer in the headlights from the start. They loosened up a lot at the luncheon with food and drink. Thought I saw a smile or two at that point.

    And yes I would love to have the larger files.

    The a850 feels like a wonderful camera and may be a great system but my impression is that there a few gaps in lens selection to have it as a single DSLR system at this time.

    Thanks for the wisdom.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Truthfully I debated using the Sony but my dealer only had one a850 no flashes and I was left with a 50 F2.8 Macro (very nice lens) and one of three off brand flashes. Jumping from portraits to group shots with varying distances I felt better using TTL and a 24-105 (OK lens) in order to minimize multiple changes on the flash to compensate for distances if I got too far back for a group and needed to boost flash level or too close for a portrait.
    Hard to capture a decisive moment when your flow is less than smooth.

    The majority of the family do not attend any service regularly and looked like deer in the headlights from the start. They loosened up a lot at the luncheon with food and drink. Thought I saw a smile or two at that point.

    And yes I would love to have the larger files.

    The a850 feels like a wonderful camera and may be a great system but my impression is that there a few gaps in lens selection to have it as a single DSLR system at this time.

    Thanks for the wisdom.

    Bob
    Got it, I understand.

    Really, I gotta say that if you basically need a nice range of lenses, but do not need speciality lenses or a lot of collateral add-ons, then the Sony is a very nice kit for most applications.

    The ZA 16-35/2.8 is a superb wide angle zoom as is the 24-70/2.8 (both of which are better optics than the Canon equivalents IMHO and direct experience). Then, as I mentioned, the Sony 70-200/2.8 APO is just as good, and does pretty well with the 1.4X. The Sony 50/1.4 is pretty close to the Canon 50/1.4 and new AFS Nikon 50/1.4D ... maybe the edge given to the Sony in both cases.

    What I miss in the Sony system most of all is a Zeiss 35/1.4 prime to mate with the 85/1.4 ... with which I could shoot most any event like a wedding. And an AF ZA 21/2.8 like the legendary Contax mount 21 would be a dream come true.

    Fortunately, (or unfortunately depending on your POV), Nikon has made huge strides with their latest lens offerings ... the new 14-24, and 24-70 are exceptional optics and deliver the goods right there with many prime lenses. However, Nikon stumbles when it comes to primes just about across the board

    My Ideal kit bag would have 3 different DSLR cameras with lenses cherry picked from the best each has to offer ...

    A Nikon D3X with the 14-24 and 24-70.

    A Canon 5DMKII with 24/1.4MKII, 35/1.4, 50/1.2 ... (and if a long lens it would be a Canon)

    A Sony A900 with the 85/1.4 and 135/1.8.

    That's my dream team.


    I only need the Canon stuff to pull it off ... but when it comes to really fast primes I always use a M9 anyway ... which Canon cannot compete with Besides the M kit actually fits in the bag ...

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    One from today with the CZ 24-70mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Anderson View Post
    They were thinking, "Why in all this time has nobody improved on the ISO shoe? Surely people must be tired of their flashes loosening and falling off." And on the sixth day(somewhere in the mid-80's) Minolta created the iISO shoe and saw that it was good.

    Seriously, once you get used to it it's fantastic. One hand to install or remove, and it never comes loose. I find going back to ISO shoes annoying, though I still do live with it when I dust off the old gear and run film through for old time's sake. And do take a look at the F58 and F20; the former is a very nice, very capable piece, which can be wirelessly controlled by the latter. The F20 is a nice fill-flash with bounce, a bit stronger than most built-ins, that fits in a shirt pocket easily
    Well, the hot shoe is okay if you are using the Sony flash ... not so hot if you use a radio transmitter like a Pocket Wizard, Sky Port, Microsync, etc. ... then you need a separate converter ... which is small enough to constantly get lost, or forgotten (just another thing to remember to bring with) ... then you are dead in the water if working on location.

    FYI, neither Canon nor Nikon flashed come loose any more ... both now have positive locks and metal shoes and can be swiftly removed.

    The Sony system has many strengths, the flash mount isn't one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Well, the hot shoe is okay if you are using the Sony flash ... not so hot if you use a radio transmitter like a Pocket Wizard, Sky Port, Microsync, etc. ... then you need a separate converter ... which is small enough to constantly get lost, or forgotten (just another thing to remember to bring with) ... then you are dead in the water if working on location.

    FYI, neither Canon nor Nikon flashed come loose any more ... both now have positive locks and metal shoes and can be swiftly removed.

    The Sony system has many strengths, the flash mount isn't one of them.

    -Marc
    I understand those issues. AFAIK when it was introduced the problem with ISO shoes falling off had not been solved by anyone. If enough people make enough noise, Pocket Wizards etc. may be offered in iISO. You might ask the vendors about that, the more they hear the better. Meanwhile, you could purchase adapters for those devices and just leave them attached, no more forgetting or losing. Yes it's a few bucks but it beats setting up for a shoot and finding that you have no way to connect your flash. Having lived with iISO for well over 20 years, and given that all of the flashes that I use regularly have iISO shoes, I wouldn't give up the quick one-handed mount/dismount for anything. Whether it's a strength or weakness is entirely subjective IMHO.
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    Family Holiday, with the a900 + 50mm 1.7. great cheap lens.






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    with the 35mm G







    with the Leica 90mm summicron


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    Erguna at night. Erguna is located in Inner Mongolia, China, near the border with russia:

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    The Canadian Shield, yesterday, 70-400 G at 300 mm. (I also took this with the P45+ and a version can be seen in the MF thread.)
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    Trying out my 'new' beercan on the A900 and ISO1600.

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    I'd posted these earlier on the Minolta 200mm HS G apo thread, thought they show a different kind of fun with Sony. All with the 200mm, its first field trip.

    Bulls were determined to push my vehicle off the road, fun while it lasted!

    Not able to quite figure out how to post jpegs here, at least in the sizes all of the excellent images everyone have posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    The Canadian Shield, yesterday, 70-400 G at 300 mm. (I also took this with the P45+ and a version can be seen in the MF thread.)
    There is something about the Sony that I really don't like and this picture shows it well. Perhaps I spent too much time with the DMR (16-bit, no AA), but the pictures from the Sony just look soft and flat to me. The P45+ picture highlights just how much is missing. It's not the glass because I'm using the same lenses as. So far, no amount of post processing has been able to bring out what I think should be in the files.

    Well seen regardless. I'm not picking on your image in any way, just voicing a frustration with the camera. Some how I expected a lot more from 25 mp.

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    RDG, I love your bunny!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_Green View Post
    There is something about the Sony that I really don't like and this picture shows it well. Perhaps I spent too much time with the DMR (16-bit, no AA), but the pictures from the Sony just look soft and flat to me. The P45+ picture highlights just how much is missing. It's not the glass because I'm using the same lenses as. So far, no amount of post processing has been able to bring out what I think should be in the files.

    Well seen regardless. I'm not picking on your image in any way, just voicing a frustration with the camera. Some how I expected a lot more from 25 mp.
    Bill, I left this image soft quite deliberately - I felt it imparted a slightly mystical feel.

    I'll post another version with some PP.

    Best,
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    Here's a version with some contrast, clarity and sharpening added. (Previous shot was at C1 defaults only).

    It can never equal the Phase shot of course - but the gear cost about 10% of the Phase system!

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    Crane Dance, Northern Ontario.
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    I am seeing a line in the top of the image, do you see that as well?
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    Bill CB,

    Rare to approach jackrabbits, even in bad weather, where a 200mm works, although cropping the A900's mp's is a useful tool as well.

    Sandhill cranes have a special place as well, we've had a breeding pair nearby in western Nebr. since 2005, the first confirmed nesting since the early 1900s. Biologists suspect the breeding pair are from the western flocks, working east, rather than the eastern birds that stage each March on the central Platte River, bringing birdwatchers from around the world. Friday, on a quick trip into the northern Panhandle, found a total of nine cranes on several wheat stubble fields, still showing the brown that nesting birds paint themselves with, so possibly at least two different family groups. Suspect there is more nesting going on than reported to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecsh View Post
    I am seeing a line in the top of the image, do you see that as well?
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    Yes, it's a telegraph wire, not an artifact! I'd consider cloning it out if the shot was worth printing. Or cropping a bit off the top.
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    Bill CB,

    Rare to approach jackrabbits, even in bad weather, where a 200mm works, although cropping the A900's mp's is a useful tool as well.

    Sandhill cranes have a special place as well, we've had a breeding pair nearby in western Nebr. since 2005, the first confirmed nesting since the early 1900s. Biologists suspect the breeding pair are from the western flocks, working east, rather than the eastern birds that stage each March on the central Platte River, bringing birdwatchers from around the world. Friday, on a quick trip into the northern Panhandle, found a total of nine cranes on several wheat stubble fields, still showing the brown that nesting birds paint themselves with, so possibly at least two different family groups. Suspect there is more nesting going on than reported to date.

    RDG
    Most interesting! I just came back from a month long trip from Ontario across the Great Plains to Wyoming and then home via Saskatchewan and the north shore of Lake Superior. We saw Sandhills in the hundreds on the Cdn prairies and then several more hundred in Ontario near the north shore of Lake Huron.

    We usually have about a dozen breeding pairs here where I live on the Bruce Peninsula - wonderful birds!

    Best,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Here's a version with some contrast, clarity and sharpening added. (Previous shot was at C1 defaults only).

    It can never equal the Phase shot of course - but the gear cost about 10% of the Phase system!

    Bill
    Now it looks fabulous, Bill, and in my opinion even surpasses the Phase shot, resized and webified as they both are.
    The Sony colors look much more realistic to my eye, but of course I wasn't there

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    Hi everyone. I am a newbie here. I shoot with an A700 can't afford the 900 as of yet. I thought I would share a pic. Sorry for the copy write it's a zenfolio thing

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