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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    You could very well be right.

    Did you happen to see the video that was on SAR a few ekes ago? The Contax G lens AF'd well and a test shot or two looked crisp to me.
    Yes I saw a video showing an adapter able to AF G lenses. That was nice. I'm sure that both the 45mm and the 90mm will be very good, especially the 45mm, but fear corner smearing for the wider ones. Look above : Tim Ashley says an M 28mm is not OK. I think it is a physical limit.

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    Yes I saw a video showing an adapter able to AF G lenses. That was nice. I'm sure that both the 45mm and the 90mm will be very good, especially the 45mm, but fear corner smearing for the wider ones. Look above : Tim Ashley says an M 28mm is not OK. I think it is a physical limit.
    True the Leica 28 through TA's comments looks like a no. However. these Zeiss Contax G lenses are of a different construction. I will know soon after receiving my a7r and will comment here. Also I must say that TA sees way beyond my ability and as such he does not like the 28/2 nor 35 FLE even on an M240 if I recall correctly.

    It seems the WATE Leica does work for some I have seen. 16-81-21 on that lens could be interesting to say the least.

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    Evening stroll A7R with Leica M 50 Lux wide open

    Just a couple of frames wide open from this lens. I haven't taken any serious test shots with it but some casual frames imply that it won't be sharp to the sides until F5.6 or 8 and even then not at all 'surgically' so. But for softer work, or work where the edges don't matter but you want good sharpness at F1.4 it seems very nice. I have done no colour shading tests yet.

    Boy, seeing what these M lenses do on the A7R really makes me realise what a feat the M240 sensor designers pulled off!



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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    True the Leica 28 through TA's comments looks like a no. However. these Zeiss Contax G lenses are of a different construction. I will know soon after receiving my a7r and will comment here. Also I must say that TA sees way beyond my ability and as such he does not like the 28/2 nor 35 FLE even on an M240 if I recall correctly.
    I quite agree that the G lenses are different, I think that every lens will need to be evaluated separately - I'm sure there will be some good surprises as well as some bad ones.

    Tim is very scrupulous - but the colour shift the 28 'cron shows across the frame is hardly a marginal problem - cornerfix would certainly help here . . but of course it won't help with any smearing.

    If you're going to take snaps of skies, then I think you can expect that you're going to need to do some work with anything wider than 35mm in M mount though - but perhaps that's part of the fun?

    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    It seems the WATE Leica does work for some I have seen. 16-81-21 on that lens could be interesting to say the least.
    Well - I'd expect it to be better - pity TA wasn't closer or I'd lend him mine to do some testing.

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    You could always send it to me Jono though I slightly felt when I had one that the 16-18-21 range would be better covered with an 18 and a pair of feet. But if it's the only one that works on the A7R then it will be very useful… at least until Sony delivers a high quality 18mm.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post

    A system is not made by a disparate batch of lenses with adapters.
    That is true. Sony have said that there will be 15 lenses within a year. Those fuzzy manual focus lenses are going lose their value quite a bit, very soon.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    You could always send it to me Jono though I slightly felt when I had one that the 16-18-21 range would be better covered with an 18 and a pair of feet. But if it's the only one that works on the A7R then it will be very useful… at least until Sony delivers a high quality 18mm.
    I could Tim - but I use it very often. I do agree about 18mm and feet . . . except that I don't think there is really a downside to the WATE (apart from the f4).

    Of course I could always buy a body and test it myself (I see they have one in stock at WEX)

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    That is true. Sony have said that there will be 15 lenses within a year. Those fuzzy manual focus lenses are going lose their value quite a bit, very soon.
    Actually Vivek, If you're thinking of the roadmap here:

    Lens Roadmap

    It looks like 2 years. Still, if they do that I think it's pretty exciting. But if Sony Rumors think it's a fake . . . . . .

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post

    Of course I could always buy a body and test it myself (I see they have one in stock at WEX)
    Hi, I'm Tim, I'll be your enabler today…

    Joking. Don't unless you're feeling like a total impulse buy: I am not convinced yet...

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Vivek

    Forgot to ask if the RAW image sizes of the a7r have been compressed? If so, what size are they in RAW? Thanks.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Too bad my A7R hasn't arrived yet.
    I am certainly itching to try out my WATE!

    More and more postings of WATE results ... are showing up on the web.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/hhackba...7637887948156/
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Hi, I'm Tim, I'll be your enabler today…

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Joking. Don't unless you're feeling like a total impulse buy: I am not convinced yet...
    Even the free black Billingham bag WEX are offering doesn't tempt me. . . . actually, that's a lie, it DOES tempt me.

    Have you got yours yet Bart?

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Too bad my A7R hasn't arrived yet.
    I am certainly itching to try out my WATE!

    More and more postings of WATE results ... are showing up on the web.

    Leica WATE on Sony A7R - a set on Flickr
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    That post did not show the 21 unless I missed it. Have you seen where all 3 FL settings work with the WATE? If so, then I will think that will be the Leica WA I would use most often.

    Then I am anxious to see if the MATE works on all 3 FL which would give one from 16 to 50mm. Add a Leica 75 and someone is all set. I am starting to like this if the MATE now works as well as the WATE.

    Let us know when you hear something about the MATE.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    Vivek

    Forgot to ask if the RAW image sizes of the a7r have been compressed? If so, what size are they in RAW? Thanks.
    Uncompressed, 36.8 MB.
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    Even the free black Billingham bag WEX are offering doesn't tempt me. . . . actually, that's a lie, it DOES tempt me.

    Have you got yours yet Bart?
    Jono, got my NEX/LER adapter, screen protector, charger and fully charged battery waiting for it, but no confirmation yet from my dealer.
    But it could be in as soon as tomorrow ...

    I tell you these are nerve-racking times

    All the best.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    Uncompressed, 36.8 MB.
    My series vary between 36,8 and 37,5 MB
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    @VIVEK: does the camera come with a hot shoe cap ?

    TIA
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Jono, got my NEX/LER adapter, screen protector, charger and fully charged battery waiting for it, but no confirmation yet from my dealer.
    But it could be in as soon as tomorrow ...

    I tell you these are nerve-racking times

    All the best.
    Bart, it seems that the batterys are the same as the NEX-7.
    Can I use the NEX-7 charger?

    BTW I got conformation mine is coming tomorrow

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    I tell you these are nerve-racking times
    Couldn't agree more
    I will not press the buy button
    I WILL not press the buy button
    I WILL NOT press the buy button
    I WILL NOT PRESS THE BUY BUTTON


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Bart, it seems that the batterys are the same as the NEX-7.
    Can I use the NEX-7 charger?

    BTW I got conformation mine is coming tomorrow
    Michiel, I'm pretty sure it's the same battery: type NP-FW50 (W-series).
    Bas Schweitzer called me already Wednesday expecting the camera today, but apparently the whole lot got caught by customs or so Sony told him.
    The shipment is now due for tomorrow (Friday), but not holding my breath.

    Kind regards.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    I've been notified that my A7r on order from WEX is ready but there is now way I am taking up the opportunity until the 55/1.8 I also placed on order is ready.

    Maybe I'm missing something here but releasing a body without the lenses to go with it (I already have a RX1 so I am not going to purchase the 35/2.8) is a bit strange.

    I'll probably miss my allocation this time and have to wait until the planets align and a A7r body and 55/1.8 lens are available at the same time.

    Anyone know when the next blue moon is set to occur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Couldn't agree more
    I will not press the buy button
    I WILL not press the buy button
    I WILL NOT press the buy button
    I WILL NOT PRESS THE BUY BUTTON

    I WILL PRESS THE BUY BUTTON
    I MUST PRESS THE BUY BUTTON
    I DID PRESS THE BUY BUTTON

    See ? Easy peasy !

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    @VIVEK: does the camera come with a hot shoe cap ?

    TIA
    Yes, Bart.

    And incidentally, I found those precious little M flash caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post

    Anyone know when the next blue moon is set to occur?

    LouisB
    according to the information on Sony's website, that will be late January or early February 2014, Louis.

    Kind regards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Anyone know when the next blue moon is set to occur?
    Coincides with the A8R....Summer 2015

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    I've been notified that my A7r on order from WEX is ready but there is now way I am taking up the opportunity until the 55/1.8 I also placed on order is ready.

    Maybe I'm missing something here but releasing a body without the lenses to go with it (I already have a RX1 so I am not going to purchase the 35/2.8) is a bit strange.

    I'll probably miss my allocation this time and have to wait until the planets align and a A7r body and 55/1.8 lens are available at the same time.

    Anyone know when the next blue moon is set to occur?

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    Hi Louis, it is for people who have some other lenses lieing around

    BTW Even the 35mm is not here till december 9th

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    As I said earlier I am very happy with the pen F 60/1.5. Why change a good combo?

    The shots are from cold, windy and dark night, a few hours ago. All high ISO (3200, 6400..) and on dynamic subjects.


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Yes, Bart.

    And incidentally, I found those precious little M flash caps.
    Ha excellent ! We still have to set an appointment to exchange the flash caps and your macro lenses, Vivek.

    Kind regards.
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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post

    BTW Even the 35mm is not here till december 9th
    Checking Sony's online store, it reads "Nu verkrijgbaar" ... so here's hope !

    All the very best.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    This one was at ISO400, I think.


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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Checking Sony's online store, it reads "Nu verkrijgbaar" ... so here's hope !

    All the very best.
    Ah yes, it says now 25th of november when you go to check out!
    That's in a few days.
    I am thinking about pushing buttons again

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    That lens does very well, Vivek! Wasn't it produced for half frame?

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    That lens does very well, Vivek! Wasn't it produced for half frame?
    Yes, it does and yes it is a 1/2frame lens, Michiel. It will also likely fail miserably in any of the standard tests.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    I did take out my Canon 50/0.95. It is delicious on the A7R. Practically useless for my shooting but reserved for the "bokeh" shots.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Vivek

    Thanks for the excellent photos with the 60 mm pen F lens.

    Will you be testing the 40 1.2 and 1.4, 100 mm, and 150?

    This will become my carry around set. (including 60mm)

    And then there are the R's starting at fish eye????

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Evening stroll A7R with Leica M 50 Lux wide open

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Just a couple of frames wide open from this lens. I haven't taken any serious test shots with it but some casual frames imply that it won't be sharp to the sides until F5.6 or 8 and even then not at all 'surgically' so. But for softer work, or work where the edges don't matter but you want good sharpness at F1.4 it seems very nice. I have done no colour shading tests yet.
    I may be the exception, but I never shoot landscapes wide open with any M mount lens.

    Almost all Leica lenses need to be stopped down to at least f5.6, on both the M9 and M240, if critical sharpness is required across the frame.

    Here's a couple of quick test shots with the M9 / 28 Summicron combo shot at both f2.0 and f5.6.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Ario Arioldi View Post
    Uncompressed, 36.8 MB.
    I am truly pleased it is uncompressed. Thanks for that info. Although I now see my M 240 files uncompressed come in at 48 MB, so 50% more would be 72MB and half of that if compressed would make your 36MB.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    Vivek

    Thanks for the excellent photos with the 60 mm pen F lens. BTW, the original hood is useless. I am using the hood for the 42/1.2.

    Will you be testing the 40 1.2 and 1.4, 100 mm, and 150?

    This will become my carry around set. (including 60mm)

    And then there are the R's starting at fish eye????

    Thanks again.

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    Hi Paul, You lucky devil!

    The 60/1.5 is very rare. I was trying sell it off last year (it is boxed and "mint") for a small price to fund the Leica MM. Luckily, for me, no one bought it! [It is a pity that I have to sell 3 of my prized Zeiss lenses though.. ]

    The 42/1.2 falls short (painfully close). The 40/1.4 is no go.

    The 38/2.8 (two lenses and both of them) , 70/2, 100/3.5, etc are fine. The 38/3.5 Macro, unfortunately, because of its recessed nature vignettes badly. I might put my sample to the knife to try to make use of it.

    I only have 50/2 and a 28/2.8 R lenses. Wait for Lou (algrove) to get hold of an A7R. He has everything R if I am correct.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I did take out my Canon 50/0.95. It is delicious on the A7R. Practically useless for my shooting but reserved for the "bokeh" shots.
    SHOW US!

    Thanks for the pics with the 60 .... very nice indeed.

    Please do not neglect your MM.....

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Okay, I had the A7R in hand for a few minutes thanks to GetDPI member Marke Gilbert.

    I'm mostly a people shooter, so I made him the victim of my quick fumbling attempts with one objective in mind ... how well/quick could I focus the Leica M 0.95, M75AA, and M90/2.8 shot wide open ... especially in low light ... the 50 Nocti being my most used M lens followed by the 75AA.

    Importantly, how well when shooting wide open and close to an off-center subject (like Marke's "crazy person" Exacto knife to the eye shot on his cell phone). That sort of image has always been a bit tricky with a Nocti and Rangefinder camera.

    Focus Peaking worked exceedingly well for my first attempts ... once I practice with the camera a bit more it should do quite nicely as a travel companion to the M Monochrome ... which I prefer for Rangefinder photography.

    The A7R B&W shot was the 0.95 wide open in a dark room @ ISO 1,600 1/25th shutter ... (I corrected the ISO to 1,600) after double checking the exif info) ... and the EVF "gain" helps a lot in such dim shooting conditions.

    Not certain about my post work quite yet ... that'll take a little time with files from different conditions and situations ... but I need the camera for that. Soon hopefully.

    - Marc
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    They look pretty darn good to me. Thanks.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    SHOW US!

    Thanks for the pics with the 60 .... very nice indeed.

    Please do not neglect your MM.....

    Bob
    Thanks, Bob. The MM will never be forgotten!

    Here is a test snap from the Canon 50/0.95. Apologies for not showing the typical airy discs which so common for such fast lenses.

    A few things to note: An improper (72mm) hood was used which results the extreme corners, also no geometric corrections or crops made.


    Test by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I only have 50/2 and a 28/2.8 R lenses. Wait for Lou (algrove) to get hold of an A7R. He has everything R if I am correct.
    Vivek

    As you constantly remind me I have too many R lenses, but at least I do not have all of them. On the wide end I will try the 15/2.8 and 19/2.8. Assume the 60 macro (are you listening Jono?) and 100 macro will be fine. Also curious how the 28-90 will work out. I don't have the 80/1.4 which I suppose will be great. (Just joking Vivek) Enough for now.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    If you happen to have one of these, consider yourself very lucky. To all others, my apologies.


    Sony A7R, Fujinon 50/1.2, f/1.2
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Okay, I had the A7R in hand for a few minutes thanks to GetDPI member Marke Gilbert.

    - Marc
    Stunning...nothing new here with your skills but this great.

    Did you bond with the EVF?

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    I've gotten used to an EVF Bob. I've been using the Sony SLT-A99 to shoot weddings. This EVF seems a wee touch better than the A99's, but I didn't do a direct comparison.

    The real advantage is the view finder gain in really low light. Gets a bit grainy but the subject is clear for composition and timing.

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