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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Some with the Elmarit M 21 and the Apo-Macro R 100/2.8.

    The 21 PP with LR5.3 flat field plug in.

    [CENTER]

    ..amazing!..that means I can use my beloved and way too much underrated 21Elmarit-M if I can correct in C1
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quick stroll through a little park.







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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Michiel, It looks to me that the 250 Rokkor is more manageable on the A7R than the NEX-7. What is your take?

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Michiel, It looks to me that the 250 Rokkor is more manageable on the A7R than the NEX-7. What is your take?
    Not so sure yet. I never used it for landscapes on the NEX-7 only on people.
    It looks like the A7r sensor out resolves the lens, not so with the NEX-7.
    But I have to try it on people, to make a good comparison.
    But now we get grey days again

    (If you mean by manageable, focussing; the answer is yes)

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    It looks like the A7r sensor out resolves the lens, not so with the NEX-7.
    Hmm - this should not be the case, at least not in the center. The pixel pitch of the NEX-7 is quite a bit smaller than that of the A7R (actually, the A7R's is almost identical to that of the NEX-6).

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    The A7R would need to have about 57MP to match the resolution of the 24MP NEX-7.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Quick stroll through a little park.
    These are lovely Michiel

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    Hmm - this should not be the case, at least not in the center. The pixel pitch of the NEX-7 is quite a bit smaller than that of the A7R (actually, the A7R's is almost identical to that of the NEX-6).
    Oké, scientificly it can not be, but I seem to remember better files, but as I said it is very hard with the posted subjects to check sharpness in that jungle of branches.

    Well here is one with the NEX-7, more sun and closer by, but crisper.
    The second one, less light and a little farther away but it looks like nothing really comes in focus

    Not very scientific testing but my memory serves me well.



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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    the second one looks to suffer from a little camera shake... or perhaps shutter slap vibrations?
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    It looks quite sharp just below and to the right of the centre.
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    Boke shot. FE35 wide open, A7. This was taken just after I picked up the charger/extra battery which I had forgotten in the store the day before. Sony Center Berlin.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    got a moment to play; shot with the 35mm at f2.8, a7r, tripod, about a 6 sec exposure, couldn't figure out how to use the shutter timer, had to finger press it, very shallow dof. i so 320, about 18" subject distance, mostly lit by vacuum tubes
    a hi-fi toy


    new shot, f5.6, found out how to use timer, 13/10 sec (whatever that means), iso 320
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    @ Thorkil

    Regarding the Elmarit M 21:

    Mine is a pretty old version (about 30 Years??). Yes, it is usable on the A7R but don't expect wonders with this lens. Vignetting and magenta color shift is quite strong in the corners. The raw pic ooc looks pretty bad before correction. That is done in LR with the flat field plugin pretty easy.
    To get some sharpness in the outer corners you have to use F8 or F11, but that's normal with that old lens. I had to use the same F-stops on my M8 and i don't think that's due to the infamous corner smearing. Even stopped down the sharpness in the corners is not stellar but from the middle to 2/3 of the frame it is very good.
    For general photography with some work in PP the lens will be OK.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    @ Thorkil

    Regarding the Elmarit M 21:

    Mine is a pretty old version (about 30 Years??). Yes, it is usable on the A7R but don't expect wonders with this lens. Vignetting and magenta color shift is quite strong in the corners. The raw pic ooc looks pretty bad before correction. That is done in LR with the flat field plugin pretty easy.
    To get some sharpness in the outer corners you have to use F8 or F11, but that's normal with that old lens. I had to use the same F-stops on my M8 and i don't think that's due to the infamous corner smearing. Even stopped down the sharpness in the corners is not stellar but from the middle to 2/3 of the frame it is very good.
    For general photography with some work in PP the lens will be OK.
    Thanks!
    hhmmm, doesn't sound that good! Mine is Asph. bought 1997.
    Best solution for wides would probably be a Nikkor 14-24, according to the splendid samples from cameralab, but its a monster.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    If you like smoked eel, go to this pimped boat and you'll be happy.

    No sharpness problems with this lens even when shot @ 640 ISO by accident.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Looks really great Michael! but not wide enough in workingsituations unfortunatly
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Thorkil, the Nikon would be way to big for me. As is my canon 16-35 2.8 II, not a sharpness wonder anyhow. The WATE locks very good- but too expensive.
    As I am more using normal lenses (24 to 75) I will be using the 21 Elmarit of and wait for the 24-70 ZE.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Yes you are right, I was just thinking of a expensive solution having good nikkor lenses, and having a D610 for the rough no-brain Work and A7R for the excuisite Work. But yes perhaps one should wait, buy the 24-70 and wait to see if they come up with a good wide zoom. AF would sometimes be nice too.
    Perhaps my Nikkor 20/2.8 would act better than the 21Elmarit, and if wider was needed then a cheap Nikkor-mount 14Samyang could do the job until better shows up.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Oké, scientificly it can not be, but I seem to remember better files, but as I said it is very hard with the posted subjects to check sharpness in that jungle of branches.

    Well here is one with the NEX-7, more sun and closer by, but crisper.
    The second one, less light and a little farther away but it looks like nothing really comes in focus

    Not very scientific testing but my memory serves me well.
    A matter of contrast (and contrasty light). Use of ND filter would help out under gloomy skies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Barrett View Post
    the second one looks to suffer from a little camera shake... or perhaps mirror slap vibrations?
    That's what it looks like to me, too. Michiel, what you say is definitely the case in terms of the appearance of the two images. I would be very interested in seeing a side-by-side comparison with this lens and the same adapter on the A7R and the NEX-7, using a tripod.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Old timer, CZJ Biotar 75/1.5 is just superb on the A7R! The balance is just right and it is a light weight and compact lens. For the lack of better (light) and subjects, here is a snap showing the "swirly bokeh".


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Another (not so) old timer Nikon 28/2.8. This is a lens with the CRC feature (aka "floating elements" "FLE", etc) allowing close focus (20cm) without major distortion problems.


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Still playing with the Zeiss Sonnar 50mm & A7r.
    F4,0 at least for good center sharpness (to my taste) but nice overall look.
    Still have to learn not to kill it in post-prod...



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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    I was playing around with a few other Nikon mount lenses today. One pleasant thing to note was the behaviour of the UV-Nikkor 105/4.5. At 1:2 (it is a micro nikkor), there are no corner problems. This is key since the shallow camera mount plus the deeply recessed (farther way from the sensor) rear of the UV-Nikkor at 1:2 made me a wonder about this a bit, earlier. Yeah, the lens is a star and it makes the A7R sensor shine.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    A few shots with the 35 FE and A7R that arrived yesterday.









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    You folks are really good have yet to see a cat photo. We are moving up in the world. LOL
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    You got her number. LOL

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    You folks are really good have yet to see a cat photo. We are moving up in the world. LOL
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Second day with camera; first day out of the house. Thames River and London Eye from Radio at the top of the ME Hotel, London. A7 with "kit" zoom (only camera that came into my camera store last Friday). I quite like it!



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    One of my all-time favorite lenses, the Tokina AT-X 90mm f2.5 macro (aka, the Bokina) continues to impress on the A7r. No sharpening or corrections whatsoever. Shot wide open.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    One more day of winter sun, i like that light. Took out the Leica R Apo-Telyt 180/3.4, that lens works great with A7R. With the adapter (Novoflex) it gets a little long (physically and FOV) on the cam but still with good usability. All shots handheld at the Rhein River:








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    A7 + Summicron-M 28/2 ASPH. All straight from RAW with no post other than maybe a WB tweak.


    f/2


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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    With the Super-Elmar-M 21/3.4 ASPH:


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    Contax G 90/2.8


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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by frozenbb View Post

    One of my all-time favorite lenses, the Tokina AT-X 90mm f2.5 macro (aka, the Bokina) continues to impress on the A7r. No sharpening or corrections whatsoever. Shot wide open.
    I dig that lens as well. I have the original Vivitar S1 90/2.5. Stunning performer.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    A7r arrived, testing it with m and r lenses.
    Today compared the summicron m 50 rigid, summicron m 50 last type, sum micron r 50 with sliding hood.
    Stopped down, differences are minimal, as aspected. Full open, the R excels,
    out resolving the sensor till the extreme corners, with just a little loss of macro
    contrast, while the last type and more so the rigid show a moderate reduction of resolution in the corners.
    Bokeh and general character are very similar, with my preference for the rigid.(shown in the attached shot)


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    Some great shots guys. Playing around with the AR7 and Canon lenses via metabones adapter. Canon 85L MRK2.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    We are getting som great examples of how different lenses work on the a7/a7r!
    Here are some with the Zeiss Makro Planar 2/100.







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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    The A7r and the Metabones adapter arrived today. It's really weird to be shooting something so small, but I dig it. Frank Lloyd Wright Home & Studio on the 24mm TS-E II.

    Also, I have a spare Metabones Canon Smart Adapter Mk III if anyone needs one. Unopened.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    Carl, depending on which lenses you will be using, you may want to consider a collar mounted to a lens adapter instead of an L-plate. The Novoflex ASTAT-NEX fits all their E-mount adapters. I've decided to go this route for the time being.
    Thanks again for the tip Ron. I just received the ASAT-NEX and it fits my adapters just fine. I had to add a small RRS flat plate because the built-in arca/swiss plate was a bit loose fitting on my small RRS ballhead grip.

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    Engine bay. Summicron R 50 F3.5. Light painted using the embedded remote. Nice little app, but it doesn't pick up settings from the camera. You have to set it internally. So, I shot this in jpg instead of raw. My mistake.
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    Excellent, Carl! I'm glad it works for you.

    I'm planning to compare the ASTAT-NEX to the Metabones Nikon F Adapter II in terms of their stability/rigidity sometime soon.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    With the VC Nokton/1.5 Developed with Sony IDC/Gimp because I am having trouble with Adobe.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Another one with the Nokton and almost no PP because Gimp is hard to work with

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    ok... this little thing is seriously fun!

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    @ Vivek; that Canon lens is great!

    A few with my favourite wide zoom on the NEX-7 for street work. As I thought, it works like a charm on the A7r as well.






    Many thanks Michiel.
    These 3 images convinced me to get a copy of this lens from ebay.
    It came with an adapter for MFT cameras.
    So I tried it out on my E-M1. I like it! http://www.getdpi.com/forum/552942-post138.html
    Once my adapter arrives I will give it a try on the A7R that is currently charging!

    Indeed, many thanks again!
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    and more...
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Had my first gig with the A7 last night...

    Check out the full gallery here: Chad Wadsworth Photography









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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    A7 AND 35 FE:

    Rich in detail...and bokeh is solid with close focus...







    Once again, I am lucky in that I get to borrow and test this lens....so far, not sure I need it, but AF is fast and responsive, particularly with center point focus enabled....
    Ashwin Rao
    Seattle, WA
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