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    A7R + ZM85/2

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    Peg, great shots.

    JohnPB - without a menorah in the photo, how do we know the photo was taken on the last night of Chanukah?

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    A7r + 75 cron again. Color corrected but no additional PP. This is shaping up to be a serious studio option!

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    @100%

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Michiel, Lovely posts! Your energy is a quite a bit of a surprise to me and hope you will continue to be an inspiration!
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by bcm View Post
    A7R + ZM85/2
    Do you have color fringing problems with this lens?

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    It was definitely a problem on the NEX 7. In the right conditions I'd have to stop down to f4 or thereabouts before it completely disappeared.

    Strangely though, I haven't noticed it to any significant degree on the A7R. I'm not sure if it's just because the shooting conditions haven't been right for it to appear or whether the combination of the lens + sensor isn't causing the issue.

    Another with the same combination. I find myself more and more attracted to black and white photography. Need an A7R Monochrome.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    "Need an A7R Monochrome"

    ha!

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    "Need an A7R Monochrome"

    ha!
    Ben needs a Leica MM.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Does anyone know if there is a way to switch between Fullframe Mode and APS-C Mode with an adapted lens attached using one of the custom buttons or any other function ?

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by anGy View Post
    Just a sample comparison (from the same raw file) of Sony Image Data Converter vs Capture 1 (adobe DNG converted) vs Ligthroom 5.3 RC

    What I see is that Sony IDC (1st crop) can be pushed very far and give a lot of details (too much here) but without jaggies problems.
    Take a look at the 'Azienda Agricola' writing for instance (small digital artifacts here are due to the jpeg compression only).
    2nd is Capture 1, jaggies are there, less details than with Sony IDC but more details than with LR (3rd) with same amount of jaggies.
    (Pushing details more with C1 or LR increase the jaggies to an unacceptable level so I stopped there)

    Okay it's cutting hairs comparison but it's all about such fine details if choosing to use the A7r instead of the A7 isn't it ?

    Another comparison of a house with small plants in the frontyard is more explicit but I can't show it here.
    Let's hope LR 5.3 final will reach the detail level without jaggies that Sony IDC can produce.



    I am using Sony IDC only at the moment and am currently also trying DxO Optics Pro.

    What I was wondering; which of the colours of the green on the etiket is actually right? They are quiet different.
    Looks like the middle one to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anGy View Post
    Just a sample comparison (from the same raw file) of Sony Image Data Converter vs Capture 1 (adobe DNG converted) vs Ligthroom 5.3 RC
    …snip...
    Thanks for adding this info - it was a bit of a mystery at first…

    The yellow/orange haloes around the letters in the LR5.3RC conversion show that Adobe still has a good amount of work to do. I've found similar artifacts with some of my images (see 100% crop of image 'Boats on the Beach' posted a week ago). I very much like the rendering you achieved with IDC. To me, it looks realistic, very detailed and three-dimensional - exactly what you'd expect from a 36MP image taken with good glass. C1P and LR5.3RC look like mush in comparison. Which lens did you use and at what aperture?

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    A nice sunny day today - perfect for testing some of my M-mount glass on the A7R...

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
    Sony A7R, M Rokkor 40/2, f/2.8, ISO3200
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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post

    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    I like this one very much. It is the best of the four you have shown.
    BTW, I appreciate to find each pictures in a separated post. It is easier to add likes to the ones you really like.
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    @ Ron, it was shot with the Canon 24mm T/S mkII at f5,6 or f8 (should check).
    It's at center of the image where the Canon lens seems to have a lot of resolving power.

    @Michiel, none are really accurate in fact, the sticker is white-yellow with olive-green writings. LR is closest.
    C1 colors are completely out due to the DNG generic profile used. SONY IDC I don't know, looks like some colors are out too (like greens).
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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
    Sony A7R, M Rokkor 40/2, f/2.8, ISO3200

    (very mixed and poor lighting)
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    Who let him play?

    A7r, Apo 90 asph, f5.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by cunim View Post
    Who let him play?
    Did he win?

    A7r, Apo 90 asph, f5.6
    Is this the AA90 M or R? Very nice OOF rendering, either way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikalWGrass View Post
    JohnPB - without a menorah in the photo, how do we know the photo was taken on the last night of Chanukah?
    Because it is written that it is so. Actually, while processing the image--which I did take while walking over to my family's gathering--I decided that the main tree silhouette resembled a stylized menorah, so mentioning the holiday in the pic's title came naturally.

    Cheers,
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    Not sure what happened here, but I noticed later that the image was captured in low res mode raw (16 mp). APS-C size capture was set to AUTO so I guess it saw the Contax G 90mm Sonnar mounted with the TechArt AF adapter as an APS-C lens. I set this function to OFF and seems to work as expected now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    Did he win?



    Is this the AA90 M or R? Very nice OOF rendering, either way!
    Thank you Ron. This lens lets you slice DOF in interesting ways. This is the M version, but I am sure the R would be the same.

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    I went with the A7, for the usual reasons - including the $$$ difference. It was a bit of a stretch for me, but I was curious. I have been collecting some of the more affordable Leica R lenses over the years, using them with the speedbooster on an NEX5n lately with good results. (no Summilux for me)

    Along comes the A7, and for my way of taking photos, it is almost perfect. The five axis stabilization will probably be in next year's model, but I am tired of waiting. Even the under-appreciated 135 Elmarit R sings a happy song on the A7.

    Interestingly, I find that, as Steve Huff suggested, I have better results without the focus peaking. Love that C1 button magnifier. Fast enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Do you have color fringing problems with this lens?
    Had a play around this arvo to see if I could provoke CA. It is still there from f2 to about f4. However I had to point the lens at an area of very high contrast (slat blinds with Australian midday summer sunlight coming through) in order to get it to become visible. I think the reason I haven't really noticed it is that with 36MP the area of the image made up of CA is small enough not to be a real issue unless you go to look for it. I can see it when I have the focus magnfier on, but not with the EVF at it's normal resolution.

    Edit: Had a play with my CV 35/1.2, ZM 50/2 and even a Nikkor 85/2 SLR lens that a friend lent me and they all exhibit CA wide open to a degree. In the case of the Nikkor it never gets any better. With the Planar and the CV 35/1.2 it's gone by f4 similarly to the ZM85.
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    Winter sun, fog - strong backlit:








    The AT180 is a very strong performer as is IMO the ZE, despite the discussions going on about this lens.
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    With 35mm F2.8 ZA at F5.6 ISO200 and then some liberties with colour and local corrections...

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    Canon LTM 35 2

    The Canon LTM 35 2 from more than half century ago is a surprise. Strong competitor for a few m and r summicrons.
    Full open here in low light


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    _DSC0098crop by sergio lovisolo, on Flickr


    Here at F8

    _DSC0206small by sergio lovisolo, on Flickr


    acceptable bokeh

    _DSC0210 by sergio lovisolo, on Flickr

    A test with resolution targets confirms that it out resolves the sensor from F2 on center (100 lp/mm or more) while borders progressively go from 75 lp/mm full open to nearly 90 lp/ at F8
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by bcm View Post
    Had a play around this arvo to see if I could provoke CA. It is still there from f2 to about f4. However I had to point the lens at an area of very high contrast (slat blinds with Australian midday summer sunlight coming through) in order to get it to become visible. I think the reason I haven't really noticed it is that with 36MP the area of the image made up of CA is small enough not to be a real issue unless you go to look for it. I can see it when I have the focus magnfier on, but not with the EVF at it's normal resolution.

    Edit: Had a play with my CV 35/1.2, ZM 50/2 and even a Nikkor 85/2 SLR lens that a friend lent me and they all exhibit CA wide open to a degree. In the case of the Nikkor it never gets any better. With the Planar and the CV 35/1.2 it's gone by f4 similarly to the ZM85.
    Could you post a pic of the lens mounted in an adapter, showing the rear?

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    Will get one tomorrow for you. The adapter is a Hawk's.

    A7R + CV 35/1.2 - Otto von Groogleburger the 1st - Lord of Bayswater

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    Is that the lens vignetting with his Majesty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    Is that the lens vignetting with his Majesty?
    Haha no his Lordship asked me to make sure the focus of the photo was solely on his fine self so I added it in LR.
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    Rayyen
    What adapter are you using with the 35 FLE? Thanks.

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    Hawks adaptor
    That's not new FLE Lux, it's the oldest Lux
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    With 35mm F2.8 ZA at F5.6 ISO200 and then some liberties with colour and local corrections...

    Tim, Gorgeous! Many thanks.
    With best regards, K-H.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Fun at f/1.



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    Summicron-R 35/2 @f/2


    Summicron-M 28/2 @f/2. Adobe flat-field plugin used. Strong vignette on the right side due to electronic first-curtain shutter. I wish that option could be disabled for shutter speeds > 1/2000. . .


    CV Heliar 15/4.5 @f/8, Adobe FF plugin used
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor Sherman View Post
    Summicron-M 28/2 @f/2. Adobe flat-field plugin used. Strong vignette on the right side due to electronic first-curtain shutter. I wish that option could be disabled for shutter speeds > 1/2000. . .
    That's a brilliant idea! How about a new thread strictly limited to suggestions for improvements? This would allow Sony to find them all in one place, if they care to look...

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor Sherman View Post
    Adobe flat-field plugin used. Strong vignette on the right side due to electronic first-curtain shutter. I wish that option could be disabled for shutter speeds > 1/2000. . .

    CV Heliar 15/4.5 @f/8, Adobe FF plugin used
    Yes, I think you can. If that isn't possible the e curtain does not work while in the continuous shooting mode.

    The FF plugin cleans up the color issue nicely but what to do with the mush from the Cosina 15? That lens is absolutely a horror on the Leica MM.

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    16mm fisheye
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    Did you process the pic, Mark K ?

    Otherwise it is not a Fisheye pic.
    The distortion would be different ;-)

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    Nice pictures all around.
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    Re: Canon LTM 35 2

    Quote Originally Posted by sergio lovisolo View Post

    _DSC0210 by sergio lovisolo, on Flickr
    Goya ?? (nice Picture by the way!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Tim, Gorgeous! Many thanks.
    Thanks K-H, it's a 'remake' of this one from a couple of autumns ago, shot on an IQ180 and Cambo Wide. Much as I like this A7R, I prefer the original version of this shot!

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    My cousin is a yoga teacher and asked for me photos for her website (more photos here from this shoot here My A7 story :D). I've used a Pentax 28mm 2.8, 50mm 1.4 and a 85mm 2.0.



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    Re: Canon LTM 35 2

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    Goya ?? (nice Picture by the way!)
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    Hi Thorkil, no, that is Dante, la Divina Commedia, in an old edition illustrated by Dorč.

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