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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    The Elmar 24mm f3,8 works really well on the A7.
    (if you dont pixel peep at 100% in the extreme corners)

    The pics are very usable from this combo.
    One of my fav lenses on the A7 (+ the G45mm and G90mm)

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Michiel, what kind of adaptor (would my Metabones Smart III work) do you use with the Canon FD 20/2.8 and which version of the lens do you use? I looked in the Bay and there is a SSC FD 20 and others without SSC. How about the corner sharpness?

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    The old Leica Summicron M 90/2.0 works very nice, no problems with the corners or vignetting :


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    Early on in this thread, we had discussed the merits of the A7R vs. the A7 in terms of real resolution. Lloyd Chambers has just published a side-by-side comparison, using the FE 2.8/35 (paid subscription required). There's a very clear gain in resolution with the A7R (as there should be, considering the combined effects of higher MP-count and lack of OLPF). I'm glad I chose the A7R over the A7 for my purposes (mostly landscape photography), even if it means that my M-mount wides won't work...

    diglloyd blog - Shootout: Sony A7R vs Sony A7 (Red Barn)
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    I may be facing the same choices as you, Ron. Or have both, with the A7 dedidated to M wides, and A7R to AF and longer lenses.
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    Here's a thought, Philippe: How about investing in some compact SLR wides and an adapter instead of the A7? Economically, this would certainly be the 'better' alternative. Judging from the images Michiel just posted, the Canon FDs look like a very good choice. I have tested the 2.8/28 C/Y and the 2.8/21 ZF.2, and they're both stellar (but the latter arguably questionable in terms of ergonomics). I have yet to try my good old AF Nikkor 2.8/20. I'll report my findings when I get around to it. Something of that size plus and adapter is about the same size as a CV Ultron 1.8/21.

    Addendum: the 2/25 ZF.2 works equally well on the A7R, and the results are lovely.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    what is up with those squeaky clean streets?. feels like a bergman movie set.

    of course i am a new yawker, where people think the street is their garbage can
    These are small towns in France where streets can be quiet empty although it is rather hard to find them.

    You should come to a village after 10 o'clock at night and you would think nobody lives there. Even the street lights are out.
    Very quiet and may be healthy to relax from the ratrace

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    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Michiel, what kind of adaptor (would my Metabones Smart III work) do you use with the Canon FD 20/2.8 and which version of the lens do you use? I looked in the Bay and there is a SSC FD 20 and others without SSC. How about the corner sharpness?
    I am using the FDn type, that is the newest one. You can go to this site to study the lenses.
    Some people prefer the breechlocktype and say they are better build etc, but they are bigger and heavyer and I find them sometimes harder to work well with adapters.

    I use a nameless chinese adapter. It does well, I think I bought it from roxens or adplo on the bay. If you want fast delevery pay extra or go somewhere else.
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    Good light with cleared sky for a change after some bad weather, I stopped by the park on the way home.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Good light was elsewhere but I still snapped this with a better (cheaper) adapter.


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
    Sony A7R, M Rokkor 28/2.8, f/4, ISO400
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    These are with the Canon FDn 28/2







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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    Here's a thought, Philippe: How about investing in some compact SLR wides and an adapter instead of the A7? Economically, this would certainly be the 'better' alternative. Judging from the images Michiel just posted, the Canon FDs look like a very good choice. I have tested the 2.8/28 C/Y and the 2.8/21 ZF.2, and they're both stellar (but the latter arguably questionable in terms of ergonomics). I have yet to try my good old AF Nikkor 2.8/20. I'll report my findings when I get around to it. Something of that size plus and adapter is about the same size as a CV Ultron 1.8/21.

    Addendum: the 2/25 ZF.2 works equally well on the A7R, and the results are lovely.
    I'm sure that's the way forward, and if I come back again, then that's definitely the way I would be going - with the WATE for ultra-wide, there's only really a need for a 24 or 28, and there are lots of good candidates.

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    on soft clouds

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    Very nice images, Pham. Which lens did you use?

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    Frantic finches at the feeder. A7R with Contax G 90mm f/2.8 Sonnar (M mount), Metabones LM/E adapter, f/4, 1/250 s AUTO ISO.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    Very nice images, Pham. Which lens did you use?
    Thank You Ron,
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    Fun with the A7/7R

    Hello! New member here.

    I recently got my A7 and is really happy with it, it really is a FUN camera to use with adapted, manual lenses. Here are some pics I took with my Summicron-M 50mm:


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    Some more from last weekend - A7.


    21 Super-Elmar


    21 SE


    ZM50


    28 Summicron-M


    Macro-Elmarit-R 60/2.8


    MER-60


    21 SE
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    Did you crop any of your images? I see you got the cron 28/2 to work just fine as well as the 21. Is that the 21 SEM or another model?

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    Still some fun with the A7r and Zeiss 50mm Sonnar.
    More and more happy with the look of this lens,







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    This one with the Canon 24mm TS-E, the really good metabones adapter and the A7r.
    5° vertical shift, f5,6.
    Should have tilt a bit as the right corner and center are ok but the left far side is too soft.
    Nice combo anyway.

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    Idustrial sunset.



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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by anGy View Post
    This one with the Canon 24mm TS-E, the really good metabones adapter and the A7r.
    5° vertical shift, f5,6.
    Should have tilt a bit as the right corner and center are ok but the left far side is too soft.
    Nice combo anyway.
    There are some odd streaks (looks like banding but they are not) visible on the top of the frame. But they are pretty much everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    There are some odd streaks (looks like banding but they are not) visible on the top of the frame. But they are pretty much everywhere.
    Looks like posterization due to JPEG compression.

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    Ron, that is one of my alternatives. However, going with larger DSLR lenses would run contra to what I'm so enjoying, which is to take my camera with me at all times. Otherwise, I might as well buy an Otus. That is some great piece of glass!
    At any rate, I have an A7 to try tomorrow morning early, and that will give me food for thought. Basically, it depends how many lenses I already have would work with it that don't work on the A7R. That includes ZM 18, ZM 35 f:2.0, G28, Elmar 24, 'Lux 50. If that is the case, then I shall definitely buy one. I hope to report tomorrow.

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    Brilliant pair, Michiel!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by philber View Post
    Ron, that is one of my alternatives. However, going with larger DSLR lenses would run contra to what I'm so enjoying, which is to take my camera with me at all times. Otherwise, I might as well buy an Otus. That is some great piece of glass!
    At any rate, I have an A7 to try tomorrow morning early, and that will give me food for thought. Basically, it depends how many lenses I already have would work with it that don't work on the A7R. That includes ZM 18, ZM 35 f:2.0, G28, Elmar 24, 'Lux 50. If that is the case, then I shall definitely buy one. I hope to report tomorrow.
    Please let us know your findings! In the meantime, here another datapoint to consider: I can fit the A7R, a Nikon 2.8/20D, a C/Y 2.8/28 and 2.8/85, a Leica-R 2.8/35 and 2/50, the required adapter, spare batteries and a flash plus other accessories comfortably into a Think Tank Retrospective 5 shoulder bag (a small bag by any standard).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    Looks like posterization due to JPEG compression.
    Yes it's jpeg posterization, the tiff file is pure.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    In the meantime, here another datapoint to consider: I can fit the A7R, a Nikon 2.8/20D, a C/Y 2.8/28 and 2.8/85, a Leica-R 2.8/35 and 2/50, the required adapter, spare batteries and a flash plus other accessories comfortably into a Think Tank Retrospective 5 shoulder bag (a small bag by any standard).
    Sometimes it is not easy to think straight. I realized recently that I do not own a 50/1.4 lens. I have 50/1.2s and even a 50/0.95. So, I bought a Revuenon 50/1.4 MC ("made in Japan", most likely made by Tokina in Pentax K mount) for a princely sum.

    The size:


    Lens Sizes by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr

    Left is the Sony Zeiss 24/1.8 for NEX (the Sony 50/1.8 E is also the same size as the 24/1.8) and on the right is the Revuenon Wonder lens (The Olympus OM50/1.2 and the OM 85/2 are also exactly of the same dimensions!). All the lenses mentioned have a 49mm filter thread.

    What is sorely needed is a chip (like the ones added for A mount) to make certain functions available in A7/7R (like distortion corrections and vignette corrections). I am going to encourage my contacts in PRC to make some.
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    The small size of FE 35 f2.8 make it a very great companion to A7
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    Three photos from a recent Hip Hop Kidz event in Key Biscayne. Shot with the Sony a900 and a 35/2 Minolta lens. These shots are not cropped or toned; the lighting is as it was. Could really use a camera body with fast AF and higher decent iso. These kids move quickly so it would behoove me to get another Sony body of some sort.

    I was not in the front row for these pics so in many of the shots someone's head was between my camera and the dancers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
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    Did you crop any of your images? I see you got the cron 28/2 to work just fine as well as the 21. Is that the 21 SEM or another model?
    The only one cropped is the 4x5 format pic taken with the Macro-Elmarit 60.

    The 28 and 21 definitely do have edge/corner smearing. I think they might be about the same at equal apertures, I see it more with the 28 because it's worse at f/2.

    The 28 needs color correction at wider apertures too, I have a profile for it at f/2 currently. At f/5.6 it doesn't need anything.

    I haven't really done "testing" yet, just been taking pictures. I'm not sure yet what my outlook for the 28/2 is.

    I'm considering swapping (CV35/1.2 + LM28/2 + LR35/2) for the 35 Lux FLE. But I like 28mm quite a bit so I'm not sure.

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    A7r & Nikkor 105mm f2.5 Ai. Love this combo.
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    Hi Retow, I will definitely have to try that combo, as I have the Nikkor 10.5 cm f/2.5 LTM, which I believe has a similar sonnar optical formula.
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    Enjoying my A7...heavy handed low light, ISO 2500- 6400 processing with VSCO. All 50 Lux asph or 35 FLE...both work admirably on the A7 for this type of work. Colors of the LED sight lit wall kept changing from blue, to red, to yellow, to green, etc....making for fun painterly tones. Jenn tolerated my camera in exchange for a tasty sushi dinner lol:







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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    Please let us know your findings! In the meantime, here another datapoint to consider: I can fit the A7R, a Nikon 2.8/20D, a C/Y 2.8/28 and 2.8/85, a Leica-R 2.8/35 and 2/50, the required adapter, spare batteries and a flash plus other accessories comfortably into a Think Tank Retrospective 5 shoulder bag (a small bag by any standard).
    Ron, I use a Billingham bag into which I stuff one camera and two extra lenses. It ca lso accomodate a pad and an iPad or ultrabook and a tripod. And I go with it anywhere, including all my client meetings, because it doesn't scream "camera bag", so it is neither a temptation for bad guys nor a distraction from professional activities. Thus my preference for small size cameras and lenses.

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    A7/7R with Nikon 24mm PC-E and MTF adaptor

    There will certainly be a lot of work to do in order to work out how what movements are possible before vignetting cuts in, and what colour shading effects are problematic with various configurations. Also, this lens is recently back from a CLA and seems to be dodgy on one side in a way that it wasn't before. SO I need to bottom this all out.

    But in the meantime, movements on the go are FUN because even handheld you can use the excellent EVF live view to get your Scheimpflug right. And it is also excellent for all sorts of weird and cliched effects:

    No movements:


    Lots of swing:


    Lots of rise and swing:


    Plenty of tilt:


    Swing, rise, shake rattle and roll..
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    We had birds in the thread above, here is an other one (Lake Lugano, Switzerland):




    and here is the guy, a cormorant, at 100%


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    Here is another picture with the Summicron, in colour:


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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    A few miscellaneous lens tests with the A7R. All with Fotodiox adapters.

    Canon FD 24mm f/2, f/5.6


    The EF lenses below were both pre-set to f/8 on a Canon body before using with the A7R.

    Canon EF 20mm f/2.8


    Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro


    100% crop from above
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Two more with the Canon FD 50mm f/1.2L, A7R, Fotodiox adapter.

    At f1.4, focus on interior of top blossom


    At f/5.6, focus on squirrel in tree, click for larger view
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    Two from today. (Never mind the typo)



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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Manasie Akpaliapik, owl, 1988
    A7r, Apo-Summicron 90 asph f2.5, vignetting is intentional
    I continue to experiment with using the A7r/natural light for images which I would normally make with MF/studio lights. Does it work? Kind of in that I can make images much more easily. The IQ is not up to MF standards, but it is good enough to be pleasing.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    A few miscellaneous lens tests with the A7R. All with Fotodiox adapters.
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    Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro
    Thanks for sharing these, Carl! Is this the IS L macro, or the non-L USM?

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