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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    -20 C - I really like my new camera
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    Thanks all for a warm welcome!

    Michiel: I knew you were here, I can recognize your frame and delightful images from a distance

    Philippe: Thank you! I believe that white ship remains a nightclub/restaurant though it might be halted as all the other floating things has for the last 24 months or so been busy sinking a train tunnel under the sea. The youth hostel is a huge full-rigged ship in a more central position as compared to this which is sort of the back side of the old town. If you ever come here I'll show you and buy you an extremely expensive dinner or so as I still owe you Contax G 21, just let me know

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    Two more shots, A7 + Contax Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4 in lesser light @ around F/5.6


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    Please excuse all the baby photos, but I only have one willing model here, and she's 12 weeks old. Noctilux again at f/0.95:


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    She is cute, Amin.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    I am checking my new lights (not meant for close ups though) and shot this at 0.6s on a not very stable tripod.


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
    Sony A7R, Leitz Milar 10cm f/4.8, f/8, 0.6s, ISO50
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Thanks, Vivek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amin View Post
    Please excuse all the baby photos, but I only have one willing model here, and she's 12 weeks old. Noctilux again at f/0.95:
    I know the feeling!
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Babies good , cats well that's a difference of opinion . Lol

    Amin congrats on your built in model , she's a doll. And your right she can't run away from the camera YET. Lol
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    My hometown: Heidelberg
    Small 2 pic pano with the A7R and ZE55/1.8


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    Thanks, Guy! I'm hoping to get lucky and have a daughter who loves the camera .

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Fun? The second most expensive pinhole camera I've owned (A7R vs. M8)
    This is now the ZOOM pinhole (Pinhole on a M>E-mount macro focusing adapter)

    Here's the "sineLUX" zoom

    "Tele"

    "Wide"



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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    My hometown: Heidelberg
    Small 2 pic pano with the A7R and ZE55/1.8

    Nice! Shot from/near the castle grounds?
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    Yes, shot from the castle terrace!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I am checking my new lights (not meant for close ups though) and shot this at 0.6s on a not very stable tripod.


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
    Sony A7R, Leitz Milar 10cm f/4.8, f/8, 0.6s, ISO50
    And no tsunami to be seen in that bowl ...
    Bart ...
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    More from the Castle: The Christmas Market up in the castle gardens, very nice.
    Shot with "Twilight Handhold Setting", unfortunately the Jpeg settings (i always shoot in RAW) where set to 9MP.







    The Market seen from the city, the small lights up on the castle wall


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    A7r with 58 f1.2 Noct.
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    Denmark, the day after the storm.
    Sonnar 2,8/35mm

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    And no tsunami to be seen in that bowl ...

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by retow View Post
    A7r with 58 f1.2 Noct.
    Love that goat (sheep) shot!

    The background looks like wool.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Sort of the same shot as my #1156 post.
    Different light, different colours, different 35mm lens and on a tripod. A little sharper because of the tripod but not as much as i would like, but that temporarely bycycle storehouse, I was standing on, is very shaky by itself.
    So not a very scientific test, not my strongest point.


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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Another one from that building.

    My, just serviced, Leica Elmarit 90/2.8 has a huge flare problem in artificial light. I am going to cover up all the metal parts on the back of the lens and see if that helps. (Thanks Vivek for the tip )

    Had to move the composition around a lot to get least flare.

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    Zeiss 35/2.8 Distagon w/A7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    My, just serviced, Leica Elmarit 90/2.8 has a huge flare problem in artificial light. I am going to cover up all the metal parts on the back of the lens and see if that helps. (Thanks Vivek for the tip )
    I use this pen for such things: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Birchwood-Ca...casey+pen+flat

    Works like a treat!
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    I would strongly suggest to anyone to avoid the use of a sharpie (based on a few years of experience). They all, eventually, end up on the camera's sensor, difficult to clean as the bits dissolve in any wet cleaning agent! These marker inks do not stick to metal well and flake off.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Vivek, this is a paint pen, nothing like a sharpie.

    A quick update after a PM conversation with Vivek:

    I agree that it will flake in areas where there is mechanical wear, but as Vivek pointed out, the same is true with 'proper' paint, even if primer is used. My experience is the same, which is why I started using this pen. The paint of this pen is just as good, and it is *much* easier to apply (and the painted surfaces look terrific, to boot).
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
    Sony A7R, Revuenon 50/1.4, f/1.4, The Hague
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Sort of the same shot as my #1156 post.
    Different light, different colours, different 35mm lens and on a tripod. A little sharper because of the tripod but not as much as i would like, but that temporarely bycycle storehouse, I was standing on, is very shaky by itself.
    So not a very scientific test, not my strongest point.
    A most interesting and telling "real life" comparison, first and foremost regarding the used lenses (though apparently not intended in the first instance). So notwithstanding, thanks for the effort and sharing the optical result, since it may help my own decision-making.
    Best regards - Hermann

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I would strongly suggest to anyone to avoid the use of a sharpie (based on a few years of experience). They all, eventually, end up on the camera's sensor, difficult to clean as the bits dissolve in any wet cleaning agent! These marker inks do not stick to metal well and flake off.
    I have thin black cardboard and I will cut a ring out of it.
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    Nice Car



    DSC04858.jpg by W.Utsch, on Flickr


    It was dark,very dark: 12800 ISO twilight handheld scene mode
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Nice Car

    It was dark,very dark: 12800 ISO twilight handheld scene mode
    Fear and loathing in Heidelberg?
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    Love to see a head shot wide open with the 55mm. I want to see the falloff.

    It looks dang good in that car shot
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    New to the Sony mirrorless, was wondering if anyone has seen the Leitz Super Angulon-R 21mm f3.4 used on the A7/R? I guess the question regards clearance of the rear element as well as the IQ. I believe it always had severe falloff at the corners.
    Also, has anyone had experience with multi stacked adapters. I've been into adapters for most of my photographic life so I have a Nikon to Miranda adapter and a Miranda to LSM adapter. These seem well made and was wondering if these might work better with a Leica to E adapter than the less expensive Nikon to E adapters? Thanks. Great work on this thread BTW

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Hope this is what you are asking for, Guy:





    A very good friend, he is the Chef of the Heidelberg Castle Restaurants.

    This was the first shot i really had problems with the AF. The light was pretty dim and his face gave the AF no contrast. The focus point is on the right (wrong??) eye.

    To add some words to AF: In this scene i would have had problems to focus with almost any system i had or still use. Specially the praised RF would have been very problematic here. You need light and contrast for the RF as well and then you have to recompose with the lost of the focus plane wide open.
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    ^^^

    Werner: Thanks a lot for supporting us frequently with most welcome information!
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    Looks like a great portrait lens as well, Werner!

    Here are two with that other FE lens.



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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Michiel, are you still working with Sony IDC? If so, how well are you able to maximize DR (i.e. shadow and highlight control)?

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    Michiel, are you still working with Sony IDC? If so, how well are you able to maximize DR (i.e. shadow and highlight control)?
    No, my problems with Adobe are solved and I am back at ACR. IDC is so slow, especially if you post (to) many pics. Shadow and highlight control are good, altough it has a little complicated interface. It is a very basic program.
    There are so many other things it can't do like: a quick horizontal/vertical, leveling and rotate correction.
    What I missed most is the brush and graduation filter.

    I have been using a DxO Optics Pro 9 trial for some time as well. It supports the latest Sony's
    Very well made but is also missing a lot. If you have a lot of modern AF lenses, which I don't, it is really great whith all those lens profiles for correction.
    It is a little ackward to use but I guess it is also a question to get used to it.

    I am also waiting for RAW therapee to support the A7r because I want to look into that as well. There will be a time, probably sooner then later that Adobe forces you to take a subscription to the cloud. I want to be prepared because I don't want to do that.
    There is a cheap Lightroom/PS subscription but I don't want LR. I just trew it off my computer.

    I also used Gimp for a while to do the framing. Has a good layer system build in and can do it as well as PS, I mean dropshadow etc.. But I don't know how to make an action off it in Gymp, so it is slower. Also then I would miss my plug- ins, so I am sort of hooked on PS still.
    But for free Gimp is quiet a program.
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    Many thanks for your feedback, Michiel! I'm with you regarding Adobe CC subscriptions. I'm sticking with LR5 and CS6 for now. According to recent statements by Adobe, the former should remain available as a stand-alone product for the foreseeable future, and they have promised ACR updates for CS6 likewise.

    If you haven't yet, you may want to take a look at Photo Ninja by PictureCode. A very capable RAW converter. It's my go-to when LR fails. But it doesn't support the A7R yet (unless you convert to DNG first)…

    Edit: I just contacted PictureCode about A7/A7R support. Will report here when I hear back from them.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Utsch View Post
    Hope this is what you are asking for, Guy:





    A very good friend, he is the Chef of the Heidelberg Castle Restaurants.

    This was the first shot i really had problems with the AF. The light was pretty dim and his face gave the AF no contrast. The focus point is on the right (wrong??) eye.

    To add some words to AF: In this scene i would have had problems to focus with almost any system i had or still use. Specially the praised RF would have been very problematic here. You need light and contrast for the RF as well and then you have to recompose with the lost of the focus plane wide open.

    Very nice look to it. I like the falloff a lot
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Thats my newest baby on board: Could not resist and bought the Zeiss 18/3.5 ZE.

    Can still return it, but my first impressions are very encouraging.

    It looks and handles very good on the 7. For me with the Metabones adapter it is not to big (well its on the limit but not over it like my 16-35 2.8 L) , though it is quite heavy (ca 500g lens only, build like a tank) its still OK, a little bit of mass is good for the 7.

    Image quality is very superb in the center, very good to the corners, no problems with smearing or color shift, vignetting as expected. There is absolutely no need for corrections with flat field plugin.
    The only problem with that lens, i can see so far, is Ca's. Strong to very strong in the outer areas but they are removed completely and easy in LR.
    Seems to be a keeper. More tests to come!






    First examples:








    Part of my office:





    Ps: There is a small problem with the Zeiss and the Metabones.
    The adapter is not working in its (default) "Green Mode". You have to use the advanced mode i.e. mount the adapter with the cam on and push the button on the adapter while mounting. Then it works perfect.
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    For what its worth: You can download now the "Lens Correction" App and a "Multi-Expousure" App with the cam at Sony PM.
    Have not tried the Apps yet, but at least it seems that you can save Exif's for legacy glass.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Werner, am I noticing a general green/cyan-shift towards the corners? If this is real, does the LR-profile correct this?

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Werner please check that ASAP and let us know if the corrections (3 different ones) can be done for any manual lens and if that gets registered in the RAW file. This would add value to these cams immensely!

    TIA!

    (I am having a tough time registering my camera and can not download these things to check it. sony service has been contacted and I hope to get it resolved soon. )

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    And no tsunami to be seen in that bowl ...
    But possibly a tsunami in the bowel of whoever eats the contents

    Just this guy you know
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Ron Im not seeing it. Im on a Nec 27 inch wide gamut and looks okay
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    I'm on a 30" Quato, and I'm noticing something of the sort in the office shot. Could be the lighting, though.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Usually fluorescent which means green
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    But possibly a tsunami in the bowel of whoever eats the contents
    The demo was to show that 0.6s and there was no shutter vibration affecting the clarity, in my hands. The very same goes for your comment also. Certain things are for flavor (not taste) and not to be eaten like a toffee.

    So, proper usage (camera or chilli) is always prudent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Usually fluorescent which means green
    Don't think there's any artificial light in this shot, but two windows (center with direct sunlight, right side on shaded side of building). The cast I was wondering about is visible along the ceiling.

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    Sorry guys i am in a hurry, family is there and they all want to have dinner.


    Ron, no i do not see any color shift, what you see is maybe Jpeg compression. On my iMac 27 (calibrated) it looks really clean:


    This looks way better in LR on my Mac, than posted here in the forum via Flickr. You could see some color in the posted pic but thats not there in the original - believe me!. I would not correct anything via flat field.


    Vivek:

    I will try out the Apps ASP.
    Today thats not possible, otherwise I'm running into BIG probe's....
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