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    I am so envious
    You would change your mind in 5 minutes - yesterday I was thankful for global warming
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    Sorry Jonathan, it's against my policy to 'Like' cat pictures
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    Another quick one from that shoot. Same lens, f1.4

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    Loads of lovely imagery in this thread.
    This camera seems a cut above the rest.

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    No longer snowed in, but now the below zero windchill kept me indoors. Just playing around with focusing the Rokinon 14mm at near MFD (11 inches) on the A7R.

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    Speaking of which, where is the beach Tim?
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    Grenada. Been to Barbados so often that a change was in order and what a good move that was!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Grenada. Been to Barbados so often that a change was in order and what a good move that was!
    Tim, I used to work on charter boats based out of there. Loooong time ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    So, let's go to the beach . . . put the Leica 80-200R lens on the A7 and see if it's possible to get shots of the dogs haring around at 100mph . . . . .



    Matty flying



    Gotcha


    Caspar's Revenge



    Shall we stop fighting and get that Spaniel?



    DriftRope

    Upshot is that I got a really good focusing hit rate (all shot at f4) Camera turned to shutter priority to try and catch the action . . . . It works, and it works well.
    Whew, glad you labeled the last pic Jono ... at first glance I thought it might be the remains of that Spaniel



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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Few more holiday snaps with the A7R and 28-70. Am also using the Macro Elmar F4 90mm, which is utterly stellar and the best travel short tele imaginable. Will post some later.





    Sigh, such warm serenity. Well done .

    Brings back fond memories of many weeks spent visiting various Caribbean islands. Anguilla being one of my favs.

    (Meanwhile, back at the ranch ... record cold here and buried in white stuff.)

    Leave for Miami tomorrow AM ... Thank God!

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    Sigh, such warm serenity. Well done .

    Brings back fond memories of many weeks spent visiting various Caribbean islands. Anguilla being one of my favs.

    (Meanwhile, back at the ranch ... record cold here and buried in white stuff.)

    Leave for Miami tomorrow AM ... Thank God!

    - Marc
    Thank you Marc... I had a massive Rum Punch this evening and it has left me feeling warm and serene... Enjoy Miami, hope it is warm there? Try the Soho Beach House for lunch. It is really a very cool place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cunim View Post
    Tim, I used to work on charter boats based out of there. Loooong time ago
    Sounds like a very nice life... the Grenadians are really nice and the island is gorgeous, even if the weather is currently rather variable!

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    Thank you Marc... I had a massive Rum Punch this evening and it has left me feeling warm and serene... Enjoy Miami, hope it is warm there? Try the Soho Beach House for lunch. It is really a very cool place!
    ANYTHING is warmer than here ... even Antarctica. Literally.

    Forecast: Mid 70s to low 80s when we are in Miami.

    Been to Miami a zillion times. Used to stay at the Delano, but we are staying in Coconut Grove this time as I have a shoot there ... but will get over to Miami Beach if we get a chance ... there is a breakfast joint there right by a modeling agency that provides some eye candy ... hope it is still there

    Love the Cuban coffee. Hope I can hold the A7R steady after a few of those

    MM, A99, A900 and the A7R plus 3 speed-lights will all be put to task. Honestly, I'm sick of these heavy bags of gear ... if the A7R does well, I may "pull a Guy" and dump everything and get a A7 partner for the MM and A7R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    ANYTHING is warmer than here ... even Antarctica. Literally.

    Forecast: Mid 70s to low 80s when we are in Miami.

    Been to Miami a zillion times. Used to stay at the Delano, but we are staying in Coconut Grove this time as I have a shoot there ... but will get over to Miami Beach if we get a chance ... there is a breakfast joint there right by a modeling agency that provides some eye candy ... hope it is still there

    Love the Cuban coffee. Hope I can hold the A7R steady after a few of those

    MM, A99, A900 and the A7R plus 3 speed-lights will all be put to task. Honestly, I'm sick of these heavy bags of gear ... if the A7R does well, I may "pull a Guy" and dump everything and get a A7 partner for the MM and A7R.

    - Marc
    I stayed at the Delano a couple of nights in 2012, having not been for years, and Lordy was I ever glad to leave...

    I suggest you don't try and pull a guy in South Beach... you might not get what you bargained for ;-)

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    I love the image created with the Summilux.

    How do you like the 50mm Summulix ASPH with the A7 sensor?

    Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    These three taken in low light


    ISO 1250 with Leica 50 'lux Asph


    ISO 6400 with the kit lens


    ISO 3200 with the kit lens
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    Marc, there is a photo store, Pittman Photo, about 7 miles or so from the hotel. They have the A7. The prices are always discounted so they can compete with the big mail order places.

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    A few shots form this afternoon with the a900 and the underused ZA 135/1.8. I really like the way the red pops with the lens. Hanging out in the park before swim practice, while little sister is in gymnastics.


    ivantree2.5 by MikalWGrass, on Flickr


    ivantree1.5 by MikalWGrass, on Flickr


    ivankickboardturn by MikalWGrass, on Flickr
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    So, let's go to the beach . . . put the Leica 80-200R lens on the A7 and see if it's possible to get shots of the dogs haring around at 100mph . . . . .


    Matty flying

    Upshot is that I got a really good focusing hit rate (all shot at f4) Camera turned to shutter priority to try and catch the action . . . . It works, and it works well.
    yes, that's an understatement.
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    Pike Place Market, Seattle. No idea who she was. A7 with Sony Zeiss 55mm f/1.8.









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    Their love journey hand in hand and all I got was the A7R and a 50mm FD in mine.
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    Same setting as above; keep shooting with one lens
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Grenada. Been to Barbados so often that a change was in order and what a good move that was!
    Sure look nice without the snow Next try St. Lucia, It's a verry photogenic place to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikonf View Post
    I love the image created with the Summilux.

    How do you like the 50mm Summulix ASPH with the A7 sensor?

    Enjoy!
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    Hi Mike
    I haven't spent enough time with it, but from first impressions it seems to be great.

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    same
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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    I stayed at the Delano a couple of nights in 2012, having not been for years, and Lordy was I ever glad to leave...

    I suggest you don't try and pull a guy in South Beach... you might not get what you bargained for ;-)
    My bad, as my wife reminded me, it was the National next door ... the Delano was a bit too pretentious, sunken cheek people/trendy for us back then, but some cool shooting with all the long sheer drapes wafting in the breeze. I liked the National's pool.

    Now we just stay at the Lowes when visiting South Beach because they allow doggies. Last time we were there it was record cold and we had to wear our winter coats.

    Good people shooting in Miami. Can't wait, after being stuck in the house for a month. A&R and Leica MM will get use

    Years ago when flying into Miami to do a commercial TV shoot we passed over islands that Christo had turned into an "art" by surrounding it with pink. Of course, my camera was packed away in the over-head

    I must say, you are making that kit zoom sing a Caribbean tune So, post more of paradise please ... most folks are freezing their bums off right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikalWGrass View Post
    Marc, there is a photo store, Pittman Photo, about 7 miles or so from the hotel. They have the A7. The prices are always discounted so they can compete with the big mail order places.
    No room in the bag to bring it back home Mikal ... I'm maxed out for the shoot.

    The idea is less, not more

    See ya soon!

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    Hi David
    She's fine - nearly 14, but showing no signs of age - she's subdued the new puppy and still spends much of her time in boxes and bags. Can you remember when it was you came (and I'll see what I can find).
    My records say 15/12/2006. Wow! "Who knows where the time goes"

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    So good to see the old cat again, was getting worried.
    Would love a file of my cat smuggling days in Norfolk, if you still have it.
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    At the risk of derailing the thread with messages, and worse, infecting it with cat snaps, I think this might be the snap you were thinking of, Echo was 6 then (back in 2006).



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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Here are some different shots from yesterday's beach walk. This time with the humble kit zoom


    Beware!


    Bottle tops


    Green and yellow


    Froth


    After the Storm


    Time to go home

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    Hi David
    At the risk of derailing the thread with messages, and worse, infecting it with cat snaps, I think this might be the snap you were thinking of, Echo was 6 then (back in 2006).



    David Lawson with Echo M8
    Wow, England is such a diverse country. Down in Sussex, the traditional pub dish is chicken in a basket. Who'da thunk of cat!?
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    Hello!
    Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks for all the lovely pictures and inspiring work!

    I`ve learnt a lot from lurking, so I hope to learn even more from getting involved.

    I recently bought the Sony A7r with the FA 35mm, I`m coming from a Pentax K-5 system, but I wanted to try fullframe and something smaller for hiking.

    love my new camera! And looking forward to being an active member!

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    Nikon 55/2.8 Micro-Nikkor w/A7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntrip View Post
    Hello!
    Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks for all the lovely pictures and inspiring work!
    Welcome Suntrip - from one nice system to another!


    Quote Originally Posted by benroy View Post
    Nikon 55/2.8 Micro-Nikkor w/A7
    Lovely Roy - I especially like the last one.

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    St George's, Grenada, has a lot of abandoned public buildings on the upper slopes - presumably because they keep getting knocked about by hurricanes...










    I am finding that around half my shots with the 28-70 kit zoom are great, but quite a few are pretty poor. I haven't yet worked out (I'm on holiday!) why but I suspect the AF misses quite often, and that there are some shutter vibration issues too. More digging needed. This one should have been a nice shot but it doesn't stand up to much larger presentation than web, unfortunately...



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    Hi Tim
    Lovely ship - pity it's soft.
    This is not an issue I'm finding with the 28-70 . . . mind you, Ming Thein think's it's a 'dog'. Matt likes his, I'm startled by how good mine is . . . certainly not had any shots like that, so I suspect that it might be shutter slap rather than AF issues . . . . after all, how do you get the AF wrong at infinity at f8?

    My suspicion is that it's not suited to the A7r, but is pretty stellar on the A7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Tim
    Lovely ship - pity it's soft.
    This is not an issue I'm finding with the 28-70 . . . mind you, Ming Thein think's it's a 'dog'. Matt likes his, I'm startled by how good mine is . . . certainly not had any shots like that, so I suspect that it might be shutter slap rather than AF issues . . . . after all, how do you get the AF wrong at infinity at f8?

    My suspicion is that it's not suited to the A7r, but is pretty stellar on the A7?

    whaddyareckon?
    Mmm, at 1/320 there shouldn't be any shutter slap issue at all.
    I'm with Ming Thein ...

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    Amazing that those windows survived where the roof didn't!

    I like the look of that 28-70 actually and I'm really not a fan of lenses which change aperture as you zoom or even which are that slow (been a wedding shooter for so long I suppose). It does however have a very pleasing look to it for holiday/street work as we've seen here. If the shutter lag of the A7r ever does defeat me I'll try and do a swapsie for the A7 with the kit lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Mmm, at 1/320 there shouldn't be any shutter slap issue at all.
    I'm with Ming Thein ...

    Kind regards.


    Of Course - there won't be any of that resonance stuff that they're talking about on the other thread when you stick the camera on a big tripod . . . . but good old vibration is a different thing, and I don't see why it shouldn't show up at any shutter speed. I'm guessing that the camera was not on a tripod for this shot Tim?

    on the A7 I'm seeing sharper corners at 28mm and f4 (much sharper) than I did with my Contax Zeiss 28-85 on the A7r (I haven't tried this on the A7 yet).

    There just seems to be a kind of pattern here.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    The 28-70 zoom is a 'dog'

    Well, having tried to catch the dogs zooming around with the 80-200 zoom, I gave it a good go with the 28-70 kit zoom - not tracking, but mashing the shutter - focus is pretty fast, and it got it right most of the time.

    Here are a few samples.



    Face to the Wind


    What's that?


    Looking Down


    quick Turn


    Puffed Ou
    t

    No More Dogs for a while - I promise - it was just a good experiment to see how the A7 functioned as an 'action' camera.

    I'm pleased - it does well for fast Manual Focus, and the AF seems to be pretty fast in decent light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    on the A7 I'm seeing sharper corners at 28mm and f4 (much sharper) than I did with my Contax Zeiss 28-85 on the A7r (I haven't tried this on the A7 yet).

    There just seems to be a kind of pattern here.
    Perhaps I should have a coffee first and then read this again slowly ...
    Bart ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Tim
    Lovely ship - pity it's soft.
    This is not an issue I'm finding with the 28-70 . . . mind you, Ming Thein think's it's a 'dog'. Matt likes his, I'm startled by how good mine is . . . certainly not had any shots like that, so I suspect that it might be shutter slap rather than AF issues . . . . after all, how do you get the AF wrong at infinity at f8?

    My suspicion is that it's not suited to the A7r, but is pretty stellar on the A7?

    whaddyareckon?
    I keep on getting really impressive results from the lens, so I know that it can be very good, but so often it is as soft as those ships. I think it is an OSS thing: I have now assigned OSS on/off to Fn button 3 and am getting better results with it off, even at 1x focal length. I suspect that as with many IS systems, it is really only for very slow speeds (1/2 of focal length or slower) and that at ‘normal’ shutter speeds it is more a hindrance than a help.
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    I keep on getting really impressive results from the lens, so I know that it can be very good, but so often it is as soft as those ships. I think it is an OSS thing: I have now assigned OSS on/off to Fn button 3 and am getting better results with it off, even at 1x focal length. I suspect that as with many IS systems, it is really only for very slow speeds (1/2 of focal length or slower) and that at ‘normal’ shutter speeds it is more a hindrance than a help.
    Tim, that would be really too bad if this OSS were the culprit.
    As you and Jono showed this 28-70 is a fine performer and surprisingly good for a kit lens.

    Glad for once the A7r is not to blame ...

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    Tim, that would be really too bad if this OSS were the culprit.
    As you and Jono showed this 28-70 is a fine performer and surprisingly good for a kit lens.

    Glad for once the A7r is not to blame ...

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    The more I dig, the more weird it gets: it also has an asymmetry that changes side as you zoom, and it actually does radically miss AF sometimes. So far, I'd say 'don't use it for far landscape, do use it with OSS off unless shutter speeds are low, do use MF if you have time' and I'd add to that 'let's hope the 24-70 is a lot better' because, though I agree with Jono that the lens is capable of some really surprisingly good results, my copy on my A7R is pretty inconsistent - so I am tending more towards the Ming Thein view. Having said that, Sony aren't selling this lens as a kit with the A7R so I have only myself to blame! And, cruddy though some of the shots are, I have only lost one shot that I cared about, because I do tend to bracket quite a bit if a shot matters and I didn't with that one because I was hanging off a gravestone over a cliff!
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    The A7/R seems to continue to be very educational for me. Thanks Sony!
    And I didn't even have to attend classes!
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    I agree K-H! There's nothing like design compromise mixed with what one might call 'manufacturing considerations' to sharpen the wit!
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    Hmm, I've had issues with what looked like missed-AF on the 55-210 on the Nex. I'll have to see about turning OSS off sometimes. But, I think it was just missing AF.

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

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    The more I dig, the more weird it gets: it also has an asymmetry that changes side as you zoom, and it actually does radically miss AF sometimes.
    If you have decentering on an element that happens to rotate as you zoom the lens, you may get the problem you describe.

    Does the front element rotate with focus? Cheaper lenses sometimes do that. That may also be a source of this issue, but it sounds like it is related to the zoom and not focus.

    I'm planning on holding out for the 24-70 so I hope it is a better, more consistent lens.


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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    I keep on getting really impressive results from the lens, so I know that it can be very good, but so often it is as soft as those ships. I think it is an OSS thing: I have now assigned OSS on/off to Fn button 3 and am getting better results with it off, even at 1x focal length. I suspect that as with many IS systems, it is really only for very slow speeds (1/2 of focal length or slower) and that at ‘normal’ shutter speeds it is more a hindrance than a help.
    HI Tim
    but why am I simply not seeing this problem on the A7 - I've hardly had an OOF photo, and I've never bothered to turn the OSS off - it just works, reliably and consistently. I've not seen any complaints from Matt with his kit lens on the A7 either.
    Seems to me that it's still likely to be to do with the first curtain (lets face it THAT's the difference between the cameras).

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    Re: Fun with the A7/7R

    Heavily overcast day here (snow in the forecast), but I had to get out and take at least a few shots with the A7 and a Leica lens, now that I have the Novoflex adapter.

    I definitely need more practice to get the hang of using "focus peaking" to get accurate manual focus. Of the six images I took, 2 were in pretty good focus, 2 were so-so and 2 were terrible.

    Here's the best of the bunch, with minimal processing (don't have my regular computer with me). I'm hoping for better light and more interesting subjects this weekend.

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