Net regulation

[monza]

If piracy is indeed what this is about, the ultimate irony is that neither of these bills will stop it.

 

[Amin]

No, the professor and I agree entirely...

It's clear from his video and the text he cites directly from the legislation that US-based forums could be heavily affected.

Vivek, as an educator I have the utmost respect and admiration for Sal Khan.

 

[Bob]

Examples of current US Government questionable practices:
http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-domain-and-more-101126/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/26/domain-names-piracy-crackdown_n_1114126.html (same event as below)
http://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-130-domain-names-in-mass-crackdown-111125/
http://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2011/111128washingtondc.pdf the government's notice on what they did
http://torrentfreak.com/feds-seize-domains-of-korean-movie-portals-111204/
http://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/at-work/innovation/domain-names-seized-without-due-process
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...seized-20-domain-names-nfl-over-weekend.shtml
http://www.domainnamenews.com/legal-issues/government-seizes-poker-domains-charges-principals/9184
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/court-refuses-give-seized-domain-name-back-claims
http://www.ipbrief.net/2011/05/12/6-ways-to-get-your-domain-name-seized-by-ice/
http://www.2betdsi.com/
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2131377/ice-thaws-seized-domain

private party and the courts http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/29/chanel-counterfeiters-beware-us-federal-court-orders-domain-nam/
This court order also requires that search engines remove their pointers to the sites


-bob

 

[Bob]

It's clear from his video and the text he cites directly from the legislation that US-based forums could be heavily affected.

Vivek, as an educator I have the utmost respect and admiration for Sal Khan.

I don't think that they need anything new to do that, see my post immediately above. They already have their hands around our throats.
Please read the legislation which is completely clear (and BAD LOL) but please also see what the government already does.
-bob

 

[monza]

A good read here giving perspective. Makes me not want to go see Mission Impossible 3 this weekend, which I was planning to do.

http://aol.it/ydO2fx

And a report re: campaign funding. It will be interesting to see if this pressure makes for a 'change.'

 

[Amin]

Bob, I am familiar with the current law and these bills. I agree we have problems already. SOPA and PIPA would worsen those problems and could certainly affect sites like GetDPI.

 

[Bob]

Bob, I am familiar with the current law and these bills. I agree we have problems already. SOPA and PIPA would worsen those problems and could certainly affect sites like GetDPI.

Existing practice could (do) as well.

anyway, copyright cuts both ways.
Here is an interesting ruling http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/01/scotus-re-copyright-decision/
So here, what we used to think had entered the public domain in the US may get yanked back.

-bob

 

[Amin]

Existing practice could (do) as well.

Definitely. Last thing we need is to make it worse with additional legislation.

 

[Bob]

and from today's news
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...48408.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

 

[PeterA]

Bob - thanks for the background information regarding this issue.

As for Obama - the evidence is on the table regarding his political, economic and social agenda. I agree with your summary analysis, the US is in very big trouble if he is re-elected. A very interventionist administration.

 

[monza]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78786408/Mega-Indictment#

Probably not a good idea to have an AMG Merc with plates "GUILTY"

 

[Lars]

I found this analysis of the SOPA bill interesting.

http://mashable.com/2012/01/17/sopa-dangerous-opinion/

 

[monza]

Must see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-LEb_D2SD3k

 

[Vivek]

PIPA delayed and SOPA is still on:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16655272

 

[Terry]

SOPA off - bill withdrawn

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/20/2721418/sopa-bill-withdrawn-by-lamar-smith

 

[monza]

Unfortunately Obama appears to be on both sides of this issue as evidenced by what Bob already pointed out:

The Obama administration has exerted unprecedented control over the web without acts of Congress. They just do it exerting some theory about executive or regularity power.

This enables him to state he doesn't support SOPA, while at the same time appeasing his Hollywood funding base.

 

[Bob]

Well it looks like from this, that this administration doesn't need a law
» Obama Signs Global Internet Treaty Worse Than SOPA Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
-bob

 

[Bob]

Even the Irish are at it
It Ain't Over: 'Ireland's SOPA' To Pass Without Parliamentary Vote | Epicenter | Wired.com
-bob

 

[Lars]

While ACTA stinks, its history goes back to efforts by USA and Japan in 2006 so tying it to the current US administration is a bit misleading. Not defending any politician here but it doesn't seem to matter who's the groundskeeper in the White House - your government works for your corporate interests.

The perception in Sweden seems to be that ACTA is something that the US has coerced other governments into behind closed doors over the last five years. Whether that is close to the truth I don't know but to me it sounds plausible.

 

[monza]

Unfortunately the US Constitution is pretty much history.

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