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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    Quote Originally Posted by f6cvalkyrie View Post
    ...Whether lens firmware update does work (well) without body firmware update is a risk I am not willing to take !
    Well, there are two issues here. One is, can the lens firmware be updated without the body being updated first? The answer to that is "yes". The second is, will the system (camera body + lens) perform at its best if the lens f/w is updated but not the body? The answer to that is...it depends. In the case of improved AF, there is a direct connection between the body and the lens. However, in the case of 3rd party battery lock, there ins't. So, all I was pointing out is the fact that there is no check being performed by the camera that will prevent a lens f/w update if it is mounted on an outdated body.
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    If this is not clear, send me a PM and I can walk you through it over the phone - Terry
    A very clear breakdown - I'll follow it to the letter tonight. Thanks for taking the trouble!

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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    Thanks very much for posting this thread, Terry. I don't check Panasonic's website regularly (maybe I should).

    Considering that the G1 is a year old, I'm not sure Panasonic will release an equivalent f/w update for it. They may have a G2 already in store and that would be a nice differential to have between the two models to push the sales of the new model. However, I hope I'm dead wrong because that would be one good f/w upgrade to have installed (whether we loose the ability to use 3rd party batteries or not).
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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    Note also that on the Mac those .bin files change name once downloaded so you cannot easily tell which file is for which lens unless you DL them one at a time. The GF1 file maintains its name..
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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Note also that on the Mac those .bin files change name once downloaded so you cannot easily tell which file is for which lens unless you DL them one at a time. The GF1 file maintains its name..
    Jack,

    The only time a download file on Mac OS X, downloaded with Safari, will "change its name" is when Safari is configured to 'Open safe files after downloading'. See the Safari Preferences panel below:


    What it does, in the case of the Panasonic fw updates, when this is set is automatically expand the .zip archives to their .bin executable contents. E.g.: the download zip file FS014045V12.zip is expanded to the ES100112.bin executable file for use in the camera. If you turn off the option, you can download all the .zip files with no ambiguity regards their names, the names will be as listed in the download page.

    I strongly recommend people turn off this option as I have done in the image above. It is a security risk first and foremost, and it confuses people as well, in my experience. I am not sure whether FireFox has a similar option but I would recommend the same thing there.

    The other issue I see on Mac OS X when it comes to these fw downloads is the '.bin' file extension. On Mac OS X, '.bin' is a known file type for an old type of encoded interchange file format (MacBinary) which dates back to internet file sharing in the 1980s*. If the ES100112.bin is accidentally double-clicked, Mac OS X believes you want it to be decoded and generates a ES100112.bin.cpgz file from it, which is junk.

    I hope these notes helps make what is happening regards downloads and file naming a little more transparent. :-)

    * MacBinary format, available in both an ASCII based '.hqx' form or the binary based '.bin' form, encodes the two-fork Mac OS file structures of pre-Mac OS X days into a simplified byte stream to ease file transfer using systems that did not recognize the Mac OS file structure.

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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    The way I did the update was as suggested by Terry. I used a USB cord to the puter...then opened Olympus studio...Then hit the update button and everything just happened.
    Of course this was for the lenses on the Pen 1. I don't know if the Panny stuff is any different. The cable method worked great.
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    I downloaded them all and had the issues Jack brought mentioned that caused me some confusion at first. I copied them to an SD card and systematically switched the lenses to do the update. For two of four lenses, I had to redownload the files for some reason and repeat but in the end it worked. When i went to see what to do for the camera, i had already updated that during the process since i had included that firmware file on the card. Well it took longer than it should but all updated fine for me.

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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    Understood Godfrey -- my point is the .bin has a different name than the zip, which IMO is just stupid since the zip is logically named. IOW and IMO the .bin should have an equally logical name.
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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    I actually did it the slowest way. One by one with a card first body, and then lens, lens, lens....... and reformatted the card between each download.

    My guided tour above was for someone who didn't have a card reader.

    I do need to go back and change my safari settings because I have it set to auto extract.

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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Understood Godfrey -- my point is the .bin has a different name than the zip, which IMO is just stupid since the zip is logically named. IOW and IMO the .bin should have an equally logical name.
    Ah ... I thought you meant that this was something different on the Mac OS X platform. Panasonic does this on both Mac OS X and Windows ... here's the info for the 14-45 lens update:


    Note that both archive formats (self-extracting .exe for Win, .zip for Mac) extract to the same, differently named .bin file.

    I agree with you ... I don't know why they choose to change the name of the .bin from the archive which contains it.

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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    I am curious to hear how high ISO has been improved and AWB. I am sitting in beautiful Sun Valley Idaho, able to download the files but I forgot my SD card reader and my camera cable so I can't do the upgrade. My Macbook Air doesn't have any direct SD card support. I hope I can find a store (though I doubt it) that has a USB SD card reader I can pick up. I'm really stoked that they upgraded the MF to single button. That to me is a real plus. Now if they added a focus scale to the LCD they would have MF covered. ISO results that matched the E-P1 would be great. They are definitely setting the benchmark for contrast AF (to think they made it even better, WOW!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I actually did it the slowest way. One by one with a card first body, and then lens, lens, lens....... and reformatted the card between each download.

    My guided tour above was for someone who didn't have a card reader.

    I do need to go back and change my safari settings because I have it set to auto extract.
    I'm on PC, but that's how I did it--one by one, body first, then lens by lens, format in between. Took little time and worked just fine--use a card reader.

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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    "This is a typo, isn't it: "G1"... I can't see an update for the G1 or GH1 yet."

    Hi Simon

    Yes, you are correct. The G1 was not given updated firmware along with all of the lens and GF1 firmware updates per this post. My G1 still had the as-purchased V1.3 firmware but the latest G1 firmware revision is V1.4. Sometime between the date I purchased my G1 and this post, there was a firmware upgrade that I was not aware of. So per the Panasonic web site instructions to "make sure the body has the latest firmware before upgrading lens firmware", I had to first update the G1 to V1.4 in order to be able to update both of my lens. Sorry to confuse.

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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    This time, only the GF1 body firmware is updated. Both G1 and GH1 firmware are NOT updated. This probably has nothing to do if a G2 is going to be released very soon. A G2 (and a GH2) will be released in the future for sure, and the questions is when .

    I wrote down (yes, with a pencil and paper) the name of each .bin file when I downloaded them so that I won't be confused which lens to put on the body.
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    I did it the same way as Terry and Diane....must be a girl thing.
    This is a very worthwhile upgrade and I'm so happy that Terry brought it to my attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    I did it the same way as Terry and Diane....must be a girl thing.

    Not necessarily. That's how I did it too.
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    Re: Lots of new Panny firmware....wooohoooo

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post

    I agree with you ... I don't know why they choose to change the name of the .bin from the archive which contains it.
    Exactly -- even if the archive just used the non-descriptive .bin name, it would have been better.

    And I downloaded them all first, got confused as to which .bin was for what and there was no list on the panny site to explain it, so I ended up trashing them all and starting over doing it one-by-one like Terry. So hopefully it isn't just a girl thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    I did it the same way as Terry and Diane....must be a girl thing.
    This is a very worthwhile upgrade and I'm so happy that Terry brought it to my attention.
    Hi Cindy

    I don't think it's a girl thing, the process is a little bit confusing the first time through plus this is the first time I have ever had to upgrade lens firmware. I did it the same way; three individual updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_Kerfoot View Post
    Hi Cindy

    I don't think it's a girl thing, the process is a little bit confusing the first time through plus this is the first time I have ever had to upgrade lens firmware. I did it the same way; three individual updates.

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    Aw, I was just kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    4. If you have an up to date mac you will find the .bin file in a folder called downloads on the dock. move the .bin file to the the area where you see the camera files in step 3.
    It's embarrassing being the only person on the forum who can't manage to execute this seemingly simple upgrade - but I'm stuck. If I attempt to move a .bin file to the camera folder, as per Terry's guide above, I'm blocked by a warning that the folder can't be modified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pope View Post
    ...I'm blocked by a warning that the folder can't be modified.
    You used cable or card reader?

    You musst have a card reader!

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    In lieu of reader...use the cable, no?

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    You used cable or card reader?

    You musst have a card reader!
    I've attempted to do it via the USB cable - not the card reader method, which I understood is not obligatory.

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