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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Always some of our photos had a painterly look. This was more from the subject (mostly abstracts) and the colors. Blending feels like a nice extension for us.
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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Here is a studio shot created with layers. Shots of Leaf on white and textures used.


    Lots of retouching later.


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    Here is a very common situation for me. I like a tree but the sky is the problem.

    Not only that overcast is rare but it would also not help much. I want to show the texture of the tree. Even great clouds would not that much better. Only selecting trees that have no sky as background would be limiting and also not a solutions. Tree shapes show best against the sky.

    Here is the original (sky slightly desaturated, don't like baby blue skies much):



    Posted this image blended before but this time I used a very fine sand beach texture:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mregnier View Post
    Here is a studio shot created with layers. Shots of Leaf on white and textures used.


    Lots of retouching later.


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    Amazing. These are studio shots I like. Not so clean boring.

    Are these textures painted originally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Amazing. These are studio shots I like. Not so clean boring.

    Are these textures painted originally?
    Thanks Uwe. Yes the textures come from painting on a canvas and then taking that shot and blending it with another canvas painting. You can go on and on and on with these kind of texture blends until you have quite a collection.

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    Beautiful shot! You have a wonderful collection of tree images.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mregnier View Post
    Beautiful shot! You have a wonderful collection of tree images.
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    Thanks. We (I share a joint copyright with Bettina) have to revisit many of them.

    1. Lots of great oaks here

    2. Hollister now also has many orchards

    Here is one of our classic shots. The texture is not blended, it is a real thunderstorm (we had major hail 5 minutes later):

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    Love this one!!

    http://hodad66.com Sony A7r,A7II, Sony 70-300G, Rokinon 14/2.8, Leitz Wetzler 35/3.5, Leica R Summicron 50/2 & Elmarit 90mm/2.8, Contax N 24-85 & 70--200mm AND Canon FD 20/2.8, 135/2, 500mm 4.5, Minolta 35/1.8, 45mm/2, Nikon 28-50/3.5, 105/1.8, 180/2.8

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    I think blending also works with people/ Girl at the Beach blended with Sunflowers. A snapshot from 2004 that waited for this moment :-)


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    Some old tractor:

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    Some old tractor:

    Very nice Uwe. Nice color and tonal quality.

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    Uwe,

    Oak Dreams works well...very nicely composed.

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    Re: shoot now and create later

    English Tea Man

    Original (sort of) shot with areas lightened. Textures used.


    another texture and face doubled.


    Final Image


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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Quote Originally Posted by mregnier View Post
    English Tea Man

    Original (sort of) shot with areas lightened. Textures used.

    Mike
    Saw this on the chromasia site and I think it is one of your best. Reminds me of Hockney's joiners. Have you tried to do the Hockney joiner thing digitally?

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    Saw this on the chromasia site and I think it is one of your best. Reminds me of Hockney's joiners. Have you tried to do the Hockney joiner thing digitally?

    Keith
    No, but I did this about 15 yrs ago in my darkroom.


    and this was the original Tea Man that I did about the same time. I like the new version much better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mregnier View Post
    No, but I did this about 15 yrs ago in my darkroom.


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    In the case of the original Tea Man were the component rectangles cut from the same image and pasted on? - I assume these are not individual images, as with a Hockney joiner.

    I love the effect and have always thought that this technique adds a feeling of time to the picture - which is how Hockney described it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodmancy View Post
    Mike

    In the case of the original Tea Man were the component rectangles cut from the same image and pasted on? - I assume these are not individual images, as with a Hockney joiner.

    I love the effect and have always thought that this technique adds a feeling of time to the picture - which is how Hockney described it.

    Keith
    In the original images above, I would go to the darkroom and tape about 100 pieces of paper on the wall overlapping each other a bit and then expose the image and when I took them down, I would number the back then develop them and then when dry, tape it back together.

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    Architectural Abstract

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    Right now I browse through the images of the last years and new idea evolve (often surprising)

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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Right now I browse through the images of the last years and new idea evolve (often surprising)

    Hi Uwe,

    These last two images that you have uploaded are great. Look forward to seeing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mregnier View Post
    Hi Uwe,

    These last two images that you have uploaded are great. Look forward to seeing more.

    Mike
    Thanks. For your information they are all just done with my scripts. Working on some helper scripts though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Thanks. For your information they are all just done with my scripts. Working on some helper scripts though.
    What interested me was the subject matter and somewhat abstract quality. I think blends work best with this sort of subject and dreamy landscapes of course.

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    What interested me was the subject matter and somewhat abstract quality. I think blends work best with this sort of subject and dreamy landscapes of course.

    Mike
    Yes, it works best where it softens the literal representation. Also often some more disturbing elements in the literal picture get less annoying.
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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Shot out the car window with EP-1 somewhere in the Czech countryside.


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    Re: shoot now and create later

    This was originally shot as B&W single images. I then did a Polaroid transfer of each image on to a sheet of paper. Then I added some textures.



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    Re: Alien Landing

    Reminded me of this one:


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    Reminded me of this one:

    This is a fun one. You did a really nice job of blending.
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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Buffalo in Yellowstone.
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    Part 2


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    Quote Originally Posted by mregnier View Post
    Buffalo in Yellowstone.
    Good example for 1+1 =5

    The starting images are not very inspiring yet the blended result is interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Good example for 1+1 =5

    The starting images are not very inspiring yet the blended result is interesting.
    Yes, I agree. Those images have been sitting idle a long time. I was just shooting pieces of a composition. The trouble is remembering them and then finding them.

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    Yes, I agree. Those images have been sitting idle a long time. I was just shooting pieces of a composition. The trouble is remembering them and then finding them.

    Mike
    Aha Its why when I've had a bit of extra time in the evenings, I've been going back and making sure that I've keyworded a bit more detailed. I've been lax this past year and just 'general' keyworded, so I'm remedying that--or I'll never find anything. So many images have never been processed that probably are worthwhile in one form or another--IF--as you say---I can find them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    Aha Its why when I've had a bit of extra time in the evenings, I've been going back and making sure that I've keyworded a bit more detailed. I've been lax this past year and just 'general' keyworded, so I'm remedying that--or I'll never find anything. So many images have never been processed that probably are worthwhile in one form or another--IF--as you say---I can find them

    Diane
    I now added two keywords:

    1. BUP_Textures
    2. BUP_TBlendingCandidates

    Hope this makes sense. Just recently browsed in my 64K catalog. Lots of work but also a travel back into the last years.
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    Re: shoot now and create later

    shot 1 shows the stitched 2 images and how I stretched the image as well as adding the goat.


    shot 2 shows textures used.


    Final shot with of course lots of retouching.


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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Quote Originally Posted by mregnier View Post
    shot 1 shows the stitched 2 images and how I stretched the image as well as adding the goat.




    Mike
    Fascinating, Mike. I would not have figured out that the stretching created the movement in this picture. Did you create the design of the original image with that in mind?

    Please keep these coming

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    Fascinating, Mike. I would not have figured out that the stretching created the movement in this picture. Did you create the design of the original image with that in mind?

    Please keep these coming

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    Hi Keith,

    I did two shots knowing that I would merge them, but when I did, I decided I didn't want to crop the image to a square, so I stretched the image to a square.

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    Mike, something I've seen in your stretched images is that they get a Lensbaby feel to them--those distorted edges that really add to the image IMO (I don't get distorted edges with my tilt shift lens--just the difference in focus plane--I can create a narrow wedge/plane of focus with the edges being out of focus to varying degrees, but its quite different from my Lensbaby--or other similar lenses that may be optically 'challenged').

    I'm glad you posted this because I don't expect that we thought just how you had stretched them--but here its quite obvious visually.

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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    Mike, something I've seen in your stretched images is that they get a Lensbaby feel to them--those distorted edges that really add to the image IMO (I don't get distorted edges with my tilt shift lens--just the difference in focus plane--I can create a narrow wedge/plane of focus with the edges being out of focus to varying degrees, but its quite different from my Lensbaby--or other similar lenses that may be optically 'challenged').

    I'm glad you posted this because I don't expect that we thought just how you had stretched them--but here its quite obvious visually.

    Diane
    Diane,
    Yes I don't hesitate to stretch if I think it will add to the image. Since I put so much texture over the image, any weird looking pixels are camouflaged.
    I like the lensbaby look though I usually shoot the same shot with a regular lens as well. Sometimes the lensbaby is too much and you don't realize it at the moment, but then you are stuck with that look.

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    Diane,
    I like the lensbaby look though I usually shoot the same shot with a regular lens as well. Sometimes the lensbaby is too much and you don't realize it at the moment, but then you are stuck with that look.

    Mike
    I agree--I'm tending to carry the Lensbaby Composer with .42 WA converter on my G1 (or .625) which gives me similar FOV to my 20 f/1.7 on the GF1--carrying both a lot of the time.

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    I like the lensbaby look though I usually shoot the same shot with a regular lens as well. Sometimes the lensbaby is too much and you don't realize it at the moment, but then you are stuck with that look.

    Mike
    That is exactly my problem and I don't think to create a Lensbaby feel is that complicated in software. Get me right I love masterful Lensbaby photos but I personally have not been that lucky to envision the result while shooting with the Lensbaby[/I]
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    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    That is exactly my problem and I don't think to create a Lensbaby feel is that complicated in software. Get me right I love masterful Lensbaby photos but I personally have not been that lucky to envision the result while shooting with the Lensbaby[/I]
    Yes, you can sort of create the same feel in the computer, but it takes a long time and I think it is still not quite the same. The nice thing about the lensbaby is the accidental images you come up with while shooting.

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    I've been following this thread and decided to try using the basic technique of Uwe's script and the stretching that Mike used in his lovely stitched image.

    First is the "original" of the old Swazey Hotel at Bodie, processed to an IR look back over a year ago, and below it the blended result using two textures, my homebrew of Uwe's script (looks like I'll be buying it from you, Uwe!), and resizing to square.





    It's going above freezing here today with a forecast of some sun so I'm hoping to get out and shoot this afternoon with some of this in mind. The snow covered fields, farms and woods nearby hold some promise.

    Now to build up a library of different textures and images for blending.
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    I've been following this thread and decided to try using the basic technique of Uwe's script and the stretching that Mike used in his lovely stitched image.

    First is the "original" of the old Swazey Hotel at Bodie, processed to an IR look back over a year ago, and below it the blended result using two textures, my homebrew of Uwe's script (looks like I'll be buying it from you, Uwe!), and resizing to square.





    It's going above freezing here today with a forecast of some sun so I'm hoping to get out and shoot this afternoon with some of this in mind. The snow covered fields, farms and woods nearby hold some promise.

    Now to build up a library of different textures and images for blending.
    Works great. Yes, textures are as important now. They can make or break the blend.
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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Quote Originally Posted by btrancho View Post
    I've been following this thread and decided to try using the basic technique of Uwe's script and the stretching that Mike used in his lovely stitched image.

    First is the "original" of the old Swazey Hotel at Bodie, processed to an IR look back over a year ago, and below it the blended result using two textures, my homebrew of Uwe's script (looks like I'll be buying it from you, Uwe!), and resizing to square.





    It's going above freezing here today with a forecast of some sun so I'm hoping to get out and shoot this afternoon with some of this in mind. The snow covered fields, farms and woods nearby hold some promise.

    Now to build up a library of different textures and images for blending.
    I like what you did with this image Bob. And yes it is important to start building a library of textures. When you get one you like, try mixing it with other textures to make variations. What I like about this image and the one you did earlier was that the textures are subtle.

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    Re: shoot now and create later

    3 Swans in the Valtava

    Here is the progression of this image. I'm not sure if I went to far with this, but it really illustrates my idea of creating after the initial shot.

    Starting image


    first effort. I cloned out some of the foreground swans and added texture.


    once again. This time I stretched the image to a square and repositioned the Swans. My favorite, I think.


    Started to get a bit wild with the layers of textures. I was after an abstract painting feel.


    This one is cropped in tight and with different background textures.


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    Maybe 3 swans are too much for my taste.

    Yes 4 is a bit wild and maybe 3 not wild enough.
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    Re: shoot now and create later

    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Maybe 3 swans are too much for my taste.

    Yes 4 is a bit wild and maybe 3 not wild enough.
    I need to spend more time with the heavy textured ones. But, I do like 3, maybe I could add more, but I wanted this one to be bright.

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    Re: 3 Swans in the Valtava

    Quote Originally Posted by mregnier View Post
    This time I stretched the image to a square and repositioned the Swans.
    Nice one (by the way forget my question over on the blend forum about the lensbaby!)
    Hmm, I'd do one of two things here with the swans. Either use Content-aware Scaling in Photoshop, which looks easy but isn't, or just select them, and copy them into the stretched image afterwards and they'll look much better.

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