Site Sponsors
Results 1 to 26 of 26

Thread: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

  1. #1
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    3,848
    Post Thanks / Like

    GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    For GH1 owners, a heads up: be careful. Might want to look into alternative means of support.

    There are threads on dpreview and dvxuser about this.

    http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread...=187566&page=1

    I have had one customer experience the problem, I'll be contacting Panasonic today to see if they have anything 'official' to say about it and whether it will be covered under warranty.

    I compared my G1 to my GH1...G1 lugs are solid. GH1 lugs were snug, but with a little rotational pressure, it appears they could come loose. I didn't want to try too hard to make it happen.

  2. #2
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    Terry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    6,955
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1145

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    There was a G1 user here early on whose lug came out. Repaired under warranty by Panasonic. I haven't heard one yet that wasn't covered.

  3. #3
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    3,848
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    That's good to know. A customer (and getdpi member) who just received a GH1 yesterday is reporting the lugs are rotating in the mounts.

    If it has happened to G1s as well, perhaps everyone should take note and inspect their cameras, and use alternative solutions. Not good to have loose things rattling around inside a camera with a hole on the side.

  4. #4
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    3,848
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    or worse, a lug popping off and the camera dropping to the ground.

    Talked to Panasonic, they are "aware of this issue." Warranty repair for USA models at their Elk Grove Village, Illinois repair center.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    North Carolina western foothills
    Posts
    1,860
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    I have to admit I considered putting the G1 on the Y strap with the Leicagoodies hook but after I read the first 2 reports about the lugs, I decided not to. The G1 doesn't seem to be a camera that lends itself well to neckstraps (doesn't hang nicely for me) and I use an Optech wrist strap solely for safety as I carry it by the lens now (I put it on the left side ala Godfrey's suggestion--easier to hold/change lenses).

    I prefer the strap holders on the GF1--but they are too narrow to get many straps through other than the supplied--which I won't use LOL. With Terry's suggestion, I have the Optech Classic and most of the time the short camera attachments clipped to each other for a short strap that I wrap around my hand, but carry the neck strap to use when I choose. It actually seems the better camera to use the Y strap if I find the right connector.

    I just read that long long thread that Monza linked to. It surely seems like a lot of problems in comparison to any I've read about here or on dpreview. And--those several on dpreview had the problem taken care of by Panasonic. What a difference a forum can make LOL. These were all GH1, so perhaps that camera has more issues--but still have heard of only a few on other forums.

    Diane

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    776
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    I checked the lugs on both my G1 and my GH1, and they all seem to be solid for the moment. I'll have to watch them carefully, but this thread is giving me a chance to examine alternate strap choices - I never liked the neck strap anyway.

  7. #7
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    Vivek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    13,606
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    21

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Since I have opened up a G1, I know how these are held. I would not strap them at all.

    My G1s are strapless, coverless and bagless (ie., no dedicated bags/cases).

    Also note that Panasonic specifically warn against storing your cams with the lens(es) attached to them.

    Use them well until they fall apart and chuck them away. If a valid warranty is there, send them off to the appropriate manufacturer to get them fixed.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    College Place, WA.
    Posts
    790
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    I have to admit I considered putting the G1 on the Y strap with the Leicagoodies hook but after I read the first 2 reports about the lugs, I decided not to. The G1 doesn't seem to be a camera that lends itself well to neckstraps (doesn't hang nicely for me) and I use an Optech wrist strap solely for safety as I carry it by the lens now (I put it on the left side ala Godfrey's suggestion--easier to hold/change lenses).

    I prefer the strap holders on the GF1--but they are too narrow to get many straps through other than the supplied--which I won't use LOL. With Terry's suggestion, I have the Optech Classic and most of the time the short camera attachments clipped to each other for a short strap that I wrap around my hand, but carry the neck strap to use when I choose. It actually seems the better camera to use the Y strap if I find the right connector.

    I just read that long long thread that Monza linked to. It surely seems like a lot of problems in comparison to any I've read about here or on dpreview. And--those several on dpreview had the problem taken care of by Panasonic. What a difference a forum can make LOL. These were all GH1, so perhaps that camera has more issues--but still have heard of only a few on other forums.

    Diane
    Sucks about the lugs falling off. I'm considering a GH1 too.

    Hello Diane, I have the GF1 and use one of Luigi's wriststraps with the "tiny end"--his quote. It works well. IMO, the aged brown looks great with the GF1. I've tried neckstraps and still can't get used to this camera hanging off my neck.

    Bill

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    North Carolina western foothills
    Posts
    1,860
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Also note that Panasonic specifically warn against storing your cams with the lens(es) attached to them.

    .
    I've never seen this in my G1's English manual in either the 'before use' on 4 and 5 or in the 'cautions for use' on page 137. Curious where you found this.

  10. #10
    Senior Member RonSmith's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Michigan USA
    Posts
    432
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    I had an issue with a loose lug on the left side of my G1.

    I sent it to the Elk Grove repair center to repair that and also to address the peeling cover at the lower hinge of the LCD screen. I had to wait a month for the hinge to come in from Japan. The did tighten the lug, but frankly, it's not all that secure even now. Might try some epoxy.
    Ron Smith
    Flickr

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    North Carolina western foothills
    Posts
    1,860
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by RonSmith View Post
    I had an issue with a loose lug on the left side of my G1.

    I sent it to the Elk Grove repair center to repair that and also to address the peeling cover at the lower hinge of the LCD screen. I had to wait a month for the hinge to come in from Japan. The did tighten the lug, but frankly, it's not all that secure even now. Might try some epoxy.
    It was your original post on dpreview (I think) that made me rethink using the Y strap with the G1. My lugs are secure--but then nothing is attached to them but a very light 'safety' wrist strap--I've never carried the camera by the strap. However--they should be secure enough to carry by a strap IF someone wants to do that.

    I did see your follow up post about Panasonic repairing by warranty, but I bet the next iteration of the G1/GH1 will have different strap connections (maybe ala the GF1's--but they need to have a bit wider openings).

    Diane

  12. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Tucson
    Posts
    157
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    5

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    I almost always use a wrist strap (except with my old D2X ) as I don't like things hanging from my neck. And I always carry a camera bag, the strap is in case I get jostled while holding the camera.

    I just ordered a tripod-mount wrist strap from Gordy and when I'm shooting on a tripod I will just go strapless.

    Wait, that sounds wrong...

    JT

  13. #13
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    3,848
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Tripod shooting is more formal.

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    111
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Why isn't a solution to the lug strap problem for us to all use a bit of self-help -- use some epoxy glue to inelegantly mate the lug straps to the plastic body? What are the risks?

    I own a G1, and have been planning on buying a GH1. Now I'm second guessing the GH1.

    But why won't the self-help epoxy fix work?

    . . . I like using neck straps so this is a big issue/concern.

  15. #15
    Senior Member pellicle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Southport, Australia
    Posts
    1,429
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Hi

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Also note that Panasonic specifically warn against storing your cams with the lens(es) attached to them.
    they do?

    heck mine's almost always got the 14-45 on it ... what could be the problem with storing the camera with the lens on (and knowing the user base who would think to remove it ...)

    is this mentioned in the manual (not that I've read it much)?

  16. #16
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    Vivek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    13,606
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    21

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Diane and Pellicle, I think it is more of a lens related caution than that of a camera.

    Read the Pana 20/1.7 lens manual.

    Very entertaining.

    (To whom it may concern: If I had posted a copy of the lens manual cautions, I could have done without the motion icons. I never thought the motion icons would be beat.)

  17. #17
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    3,848
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    The problem with the strap lugs appears to be the nut on the inside of the camera not having loctite. I suppose it's possible to epoxy the lug to the plastic body to keep it from rotating but that is definitely inelegant and I suppose the nut could still become loose on the inside eventually.

    I've sent a GH1 to Panasonic service for other reasons and it came back fairly quickly. I would suggest this is the best option.

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    North Carolina western foothills
    Posts
    1,860
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Diane and Pellicle, I think it is more of a lens related caution than that of a camera.

    Read the Pana 20/1.7 lens manual.

    Very entertaining.

    (To whom it may concern: If I had posted a copy of the lens manual cautions, I could have done without the motion icons. I never thought the motion icons would be beat.)
    I didn't get a separate lens manual with my 20 as it came with the GF1--and the cautions, included in the camera manual, are normal. I checked out the manual for my new 45 f/2.8 and the cautions are just about the same as what I've always gotten with my EF mount lenses. But--nothing about not keeping the lens attached to the camera--at least in the US manual. It did say not to store with mount down, long term storage with dessicant--things like that that are probably in all my manuals. Nothing peculiar that I noted. All manuals for cameras and lenses in the US have a lot of safety cautions LOL--nothing new.

    Diane

  19. #19
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    Vivek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    13,606
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    21

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    I agree, Diane.

    The 14-24 Nikon lens manual is also entertaining.

    Pana 20/1.7 says: don't store the lens attached to the camera, do not modify the lens, do not use any cleaning agents (spit polish is off the menu ),....

    (what was noticeably absent- do not use the lens for any moving objects under less than optimal conditions)
    Last edited by Vivek; 8th January 2010 at 07:27.

  20. #20
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    Vivek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    13,606
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    21

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    The problem with the strap lugs appears to be the nut on the inside of the camera not having loctite. I suppose it's possible to epoxy the lug to the plastic body to keep it from rotating but that is definitely inelegant and I suppose the nut could still become loose on the inside eventually.

    I've sent a GH1 to Panasonic service for other reasons and it came back fairly quickly. I would suggest this is the best option.

    The one lug that is prone to dislodging is not attached to the aluminum chassis and is attached to a small strip of metal that is held in place while assembling the body. It is basically a striction mount.

    Epoxying is a bad idea. First problem is finding the right epoxy for the materials involved (not an easy task!). Second is the fragile nature of the plastic bodice (or body as some may consider it).

    Yeah, send it off to Pana for the fix.

  21. #21
    Member slau's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    AB, Canada
    Posts
    185
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post

    Pana 20/1.7 says: don't store the lens attached to the camera,....
    I went through the ~10 page Operating Instructions at least twice and could not see the above warning. Can you tell me which page of the Instruction should I be checking? Thanks.
    Stephen Lau
    Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    http://www.pbase.com/stephenl

  22. #22
    Super Duper
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    3,848
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Don't drop or knock the lens. Take care not to put a lot of pressure on the lens. I guess this means it may crack under pressure of the decisive moment.

    Don't get pesticides on it. Don't carry the unit when it is still attached to the camera body. Don't store it on a beach or in direct sunlight or in high temps or humidity or where there is high concentrations of sand, dust or dirt, or fire, or near heaters, air conditioners or humidifiers, or where water may make the unit wet, where there is vibration, or inside a vehicle. Don't disassemble.

    I'm glad I read that, otherwise I never would have known.

  23. #23
    Member slau's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    AB, Canada
    Posts
    185
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Don't drop or knock the lens. Take care not to put a lot of pressure on the lens. I guess this means it may crack under pressure of the decisive moment.

    Don't get pesticides on it. Don't carry the unit when it is still attached to the camera body. Don't store it on a beach or in direct sunlight or in high temps or humidity or where there is high concentrations of sand, dust or dirt, or fire, or near heaters, air conditioners or humidifiers, or where water may make the unit wet, where there is vibration, or inside a vehicle. Don't disassemble.

    I'm glad I read that, otherwise I never would have known.
    Certainly learn a lot from reading the manual
    Stephen Lau
    Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    http://www.pbase.com/stephenl

  24. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    261
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Don't drop or knock the lens. Take care not to put a lot of pressure on the lens. I guess this means it may crack under pressure of the decisive moment.
    The GH1 is quite lightly built. If you apply pressure from left to right while holding the GH1 from the grip the body will flex quite a bit.

  25. #25
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    347
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1

    Re: GH1 Strap Lug Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Pana 20/1.7 says: don't store the lens attached to the camera, do not modify the lens, do not use any cleaning agents (spit polish is off the menu ),....
    Mine is in Japanese apart from a few numbers, web addresses and the icons so it is good to know that I shouldn't spit polish the lens. Thanks

  26. #26
    Senior Member RichA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    544
    Post Thanks / Like

    Round lugs: An abomination

    Ones I had on an Olympus E-1 actually wore out! Carry heavy lenses. Slotted steel ones are FAR better and you never hear of problems with them. The ones on the Olympus E-3 are superb, unlike with the sharper ones on cheaper cameras, there is little to no strap wear either.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •