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    G1 with MC/MD glass - What to expect?

    I've got my G1 and first manual lenses (45mm f2, 28 f2.8, 50mm f3.5 Macro) and adapter on their way. I've used the G1 before, but only with the kit lenses.

    What should I expect for functionality as far as metering with the alt glass?

    Edit: Title should read MC/MD glass, my bad.
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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    With manual focus lenses I normally shoot in shutter priority mode since I adjust the aperture manually on the lens, as well as the focus. You can adjust the ISO settings from your camera. I suppose in terms of metering it's a matter of going back to photography basics, and adjusting your settings according to your environment. You can always pull up your histogram to check and see your exposure.

    Aside from that, not much to tell. It's old-school time =). Experiment with different settings, and have fun with your new lenses.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Thanks photoSmart.

    Do you find that you *need* to zoom to manual focus accurately?

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by jcmarney View Post
    Thanks photoSmart.

    Do you find that you *need* to zoom to manual focus accurately?
    I use the 45mm f2.0 and find no need to zoom.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by jcmarney View Post
    Thanks photoSmart.

    Do you find that you *need* to zoom to manual focus accurately?
    Not sure what you mean by zooming to manual focus. Those lenses you mentioned are fixed focal length, so you're zooming with your feet. Yes, you absolutely need to manually adjust your focus so you can compose your image the way you want, but that's assumed since they're manual focus lenses. You'd be doing the same even with your kit lenses in MF mode.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    I believe that he meant magnify focus....... with my
    Canon FD lenses I almost never use "magnify"...
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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by hodad66 View Post
    I believe that he meant magnify focus....... with my
    Canon FD lenses I almost never use "magnify"...
    I did a whole series of photos once that were blurred because I hadn't realized that I had accidentally changed the dioptre setting Other than that, I find it takes practice to take quicker shots without the magnifying option, and in general mine come out better when I use it, especially when using a lens that is sharp enough to show the differences, like the Summicron.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Yes, by zoom I meant magnification in the viewfinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmarney View Post
    Yes, by zoom I meant magnification in the viewfinder.
    Ah, yes. I use it when appropriate. If I have a shallow DOF on whatever lens I'm using, or if I'm doing macro work, I use it. Otherwise it's faster to just eyeball it and take the shot.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    My lenses came in yesterday. Love the feel. The 50mm Macro probably will weigh more than the G1. Hoping it makes it here today....

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    I have four Minolta Rokkor MC mounts (35, 55, 100 & 200mm) & they all give a blue colour cast on my G1. I have a Vivitar 24mm MD mount that gives natural colour. Shooting with the camera white balance set to "shade" makes the colour of the Minolta shots more natural.
    Panasonic G1 & GF1 bodies, Panasonic 14-45, 45-200mm, various Minolta, Pentax, Canon FD, M39 & M42 mount lenses.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    G1 came in today!
    First image with 45mm, second with 28mm.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    What make are the lenses JC?
    Panasonic G1 & GF1 bodies, Panasonic 14-45, 45-200mm, various Minolta, Pentax, Canon FD, M39 & M42 mount lenses.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Minolta MD Rokkor-X 45mm f2
    Minolta MD 28mm f2.8
    Minolta MC Macro Rokkor -QF 50mm f3.5

    Here is a quick one from the macro:

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Perhaps there is a difference in the coatings between the older MCs that I have & the MDs you have. Except for the first pic you show, the others look coloured by tungsten light (orange).

    This last shot I like a lot.
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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    great shots from your new / old manual lenses!!!!

    of course quality models help a great deal...
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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Evers View Post
    Perhaps there is a difference in the coatings between the older MCs that I have & the MDs you have. Except for the first pic you show, the others look coloured by tungsten light (orange).

    This last shot I like a lot.
    I had WB set for cloudy on the first two. Auto on the third--the light is coming through some red/orange colored curtains, which gives it a bit of a cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hodad66 View Post
    great shots from your new / old manual lenses!!!!

    of course quality models help a great deal...
    Thank you! It'll take me a while to adjust to manual focusing, but the good ones are good.

    My kiddos are always more than willing to model.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    I have ordered a Pentax Kx kit, but today someone at work has offered to give me some SLR equipment, including 3 cameras (Nikon and Minolta) and a bunch of lenses. From seeing what skilled photographers can do with the Minolta lenses, I am thinking about cancelling the Kx and ordering a G1 instead. Am I understanding correctly that the Panasonic m4/3 mount would be able to use these lenses but the Pentax would not, and that you are using these Rokkor lenses with simple adapters, which are available for Minolta, Nikon, and others? Thanks for any guidance you might provide.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    Am I understanding correctly that the Panasonic m4/3 mount would be able to use these lenses but the Pentax would not, and that you are using these Rokkor lenses with simple adapters, which are available for Minolta, Nikon, and others? Thanks for any guidance you might provide.
    There are several sources for Minolta MC/MD to M4/3 on e-bay. Less expensive than I paid only a few months ago. I now have adapters "in the mail" for Pentax K & M42.

    Here is a shot with a Vivitar 24mm/2.8 Minolta MD mount taken in very low light.


    Panasonic G1 & GF1 bodies, Panasonic 14-45, 45-200mm, various Minolta, Pentax, Canon FD, M39 & M42 mount lenses.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Very nice texture to those photos, less of a digital look somehow than some other G1 pictures I have viewed.

    There certainly are many adapters for the m4/3 format on eBay, so that most everything is covered. It's quite tempting to go for the G1.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by jcmarney View Post
    G1 came in today!
    First image with 45mm, second with 28mm.
    The 45/2 X-Rokkor was never considered a "serious" lens (flare prone, low contrast on film). Fabulous pancake lens. Your sample indicates that.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    Very nice texture to those photos, less of a digital look somehow than some other G1 pictures I have viewed.

    There certainly are many adapters for the m4/3 format on eBay, so that most everything is covered. It's quite tempting to go for the G1.
    From a ex-Canon 5D owner..... the G1 is great! Take a look at the list
    of Canon lenses that I have collected. There is no way that I would
    have gotten a 300 / 2.8 unless it was an old FD. Manual focus is pretty
    easy with the G1 viewfinder.
    http://hodad66.com Sony A7r,A7II, Sony 70-300G, Rokinon 14/2.8, Leitz Wetzler 35/3.5, Leica R Summicron 50/2 & Elmarit 90mm/2.8, Contax N 24-85 & 70--200mm AND Canon FD 20/2.8, 135/2, 500mm 4.5, Minolta 35/1.8, 45mm/2, Nikon 28-50/3.5, 105/1.8, 180/2.8

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    I went ahead and ordered the G1 and it should be here in a day or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hodad66 View Post
    From a ex-Canon 5D owner..... the G1 is great! Take a look at the list
    of Canon lenses that I have collected. There is no way that I would
    have gotten a 300 / 2.8 unless it was an old FD. Manual focus is pretty
    easy with the G1 viewfinder.
    Hi, I just saw the Rokinon 8mm in your list - maybe I overlooked it, but I would lave to see a few G1/GH1 pics with that lens. Are they online somewhere or would you have a chance to post a few? Thanks,

    Stefan

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    Quote Originally Posted by apicius9 View Post
    Hi, I just saw the Rokinon 8mm in your list - maybe I overlooked it, but I would lave to see a few G1/GH1 pics with that lens. Are they online somewhere or would you have a chance to post a few? Thanks,

    Stefan
    I'm waiting, as we speak, for the EOS adapter to try this
    lens out. Funny thing was when I first got it I thought that
    I had made a mistake. No levers, nothing mechanical.......
    I thought that I couldn't use it...... THEN I tried the aperture
    ring and realized that it WAS manual.

    Currently waiting for the EOS and Minolta MA adapters.......
    (Sigma 600 mirror)
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    Re: G1 with Canon, Nikon, Olympus glass - What to expect?

    I have received the lenses and cameras that my co-worker has handed down from his father-in-law (a deceased police department crime scene photographer). I have listed the models and taken a few photos, and wonder if you could give me some guidance as to whether the lenses would be useful on the G1 (or other m4/3 cameras). From what I understand, the Nikon would work on some current Nikon dSLRs and the Olympus on e-series cameras with an adapter.

    It was fun to unpack these and clean them off a bit, although they need more superficial cleaning. I was surprised to see the Canon 7s rangefinder in the material.Attachment 26831

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Elliot, All would work with appropriate adapters on a G1.

    However, unless you are going to be using the Canon 7s/Topcor (full frame film) (and if there are no sentimental attachments involved), it may be wise to sell them off to fund your future m4/3rds camera/accessories, etc.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Sell off the Canon 7s/Topcor in particular or all the equipment? There is no sentimental attachment.

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    Re: G1 with MC/MC glass - What to expect?

    Yup. The rest (Nikon and Olympus), though the lenses are very usable on G1, would not fetch you much cash.

    The Topcor would.

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