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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    Striking image Leica 77. Speaking of hotels, here's the ceiling of the lobby in the Langham Place Hotel in Hong Kong, and a view from the top of the adjoining shopping mall:

    Hi Glenn,

    Great shots of Hong Kong! The long escalator at the shopping mall is amazing! I have been impressed by the architectural designs of many new shopping malls in Hong Kong and elsewhere. Best,

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    Hi Glenn,

    Great shots of Hong Kong! The long escalator at the shopping mall is amazing! I have been impressed by the architectural designs of many new shopping malls in Hong Kong and elsewhere. Best,
    +1

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    Decided to get right into this plant using the 7-14 and see what the effect would be of isolating a few blossoms and letting the bokeh take over for the rest.


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    Good one Louis, this lens is so sharp

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    GH2 + 7-14, 7 shot HDR
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    Uwe, fantastic capture. Good exemplar of this lens

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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    for anyone interested there is a comparison with the Zuiko 7-14 here
    Last edited by Bob; 15th June 2016 at 14:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riley View Post
    for anyone interested there is a comparison with the Zuiko 7-14 here
    Very interesting.

    Quote from the article: "we wouldn't use it unless it were the only way to get a shot we needed.". True, but some shots need this lens.
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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    Thats a cool image, Uwe. I love the lens too!
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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    A few more:





    Here is a gallery with some more shots (mostly 7-14mm):

    http://outbackphoto.smugmug.com/Work...nt-03-25-2011/
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    Nice gallery, Uwe. The brickwork at Ft Point is mind boggling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHart View Post
    Nice gallery, Uwe. The brickwork at Ft Point is mind boggling.
    Thanks. We shot Fort Point many times (e.g. with 1Ds2, Nikon 3dx + 14-24, D700 + Zeiss 21mm) and the GH2 + 7-14 holds its own. Even 7 shot HDR works just fine.
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    I haven't been to Ft. Point in many years... I do have memories of doing a fashion shoot there in the seventies, when I was in my early twenties! Fantastic setting for fashion work. How time flies.
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    Uwe, I like this last one very much. I must try and photograph the Palmerston Hill Forts outside Portsmouth (old England!) when I am there in May. The military architecture is very similar because I expect they are of the same vintage.

    Ron, I commented on your latest dramatic Cityscape on your Flickr page.

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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Uwe,

    this is really great, it actually shows that this lens has almost no distortion - at least with the available SW corrections.

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    >this is really great, it actually shows that this lens has almost no distortion - at least with the available SW corrections.

    Yes.

    I was first a bit turned off by the 1EV steps (GH1 had 2/3 EV) of the GH2. But in reality that is plenty and works very well. In the past I used the 1Ds3 and the Zeiss 21mm at Fort Point but the GH2 + 7-14mm fits the bill.

    Note: The photos was perspective corrected in CS5




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    Uwe... very nice!

    Ron... cool image. And I'm always struck by something in your Detroit images... in that it seems like almost a ghost town, for a major city that is. Which can be very nice in some ways... very little urban congestion for driving, parking, no waiting... etc. Is that the way things really are in Detroit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHart View Post
    Ron... cool image. And I'm always struck by something in your Detroit images... in that it seems like almost a ghost town, for a major city that is. Which can be very nice in some ways... very little urban congestion for driving, parking, no waiting... etc. Is that the way things really are in Detroit?

    Thanks Don, and yes, that's pretty much what it looks like unless there's a major sporting or entertainment event going on to bring folks down from the suburbs.

    Even the street people are fewer and farther between. They may have been wintering in Florida though.
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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    GH1 with Pana 7-14 @ 8mm and f/7.1


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    Beautiful, Jorgen!


    GH2 & 7-14 @ 7
    1/400 @ 5.6 400ISO


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    Jorgen and Ron, two outstanding captures. Well done.

    GH-2 7-14 - Thames Barrier.


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    It would be helpful if other owners of the 7-14 could help me with a potential problem with my copy of the lens. I find that at 7mm my captures are distinctly not sharp at the edges even on stopping down, to say f8. I wouldn't say the images are soft at the edges, more that they are smeared (an effect I have always observed with wide angle lenses from third party manufacturers with focal lengths less than 50mm).

    Zooming the lens to 10-14 reduces the smearing considerably but does not eradicate it.

    Has anyone else observed this in their captures, or do I have a problem with my lens?

    Just thought I would ask. Incidentally, at 7mm, most subjects in landscape are so small that the softness/smearing is really only apparent at the pixel level.

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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    Louis,
    I went through some photos, and found the following:

    - The phenomenon exists only in the corners on my copy.
    - It's stronger on the left than on the right, particularly the lower left corner.
    - It is, as you indicate, stronger at shorter focal lengths.
    - It's also stronger at 16 : 9 than at 4 : 3 (which makes sense in a way, but not completely).
    - It's made worse by Panasonic's mediocre jpeg engine (I usually shoot RAW, but have some converter issues on one of my computers at the moment).

    The 7-14 is an extreme lens in every way, and it relies heavily on computer assistance to do its job. I never expected it to be as good as the Zuiko 7-14 or Nikkor 14-24, but with the size/cost in mind, there's really nothing that comes close. The dilemma for me will be if, after I buy the E-5, I need the Zuiko in addition for more critical work, or at least the 11-22. Hum, hum, hummmm.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Louis,
    I went through some photos, and found the following:

    - The phenomenon exists only in the corners on my copy.
    - It's stronger on the left than on the right, particularly the lower left corner.
    - It is, as you indicate, stronger at shorter focal lengths.
    - It's also stronger at 16 : 9 than at 4 : 3 (which makes sense in a way, but not completely).
    - It's made worse by Panasonic's mediocre jpeg engine (I usually shoot RAW, but have some converter issues on one of my computers at the moment).

    The 7-14 is an extreme lens in every way, and it relies heavily on computer assistance to do its job. I never expected it to be as good as the Zuiko 7-14 or Nikkor 14-24, but with the size/cost in mind, there's really nothing that comes close. The dilemma for me will be if, after I buy the E-5, I need the Zuiko in addition for more critical work, or at least the 11-22. Hum, hum, hummmm.....
    Jorgen

    That is very helpful. It sounds like the performance of our lenses is similar. As can be seen with the captures in this thread at web-type sizes the lack of resolution at the edges is not an issue. I think were I to reproduce some of my shots at larger sizes I would have to be careful about cropping out some edge areas. I wonder if the rumoured replacement is being created to improve the IQ at the edges, or whether as you say it can only be down to computer assistance to improve the lens?

    I also only shoot RAW (maybe that is the issue - perhaps LR cannot adjust the IQ?).

    Thanks again for the feedback - as you say, for its type it is the only game in town for m43rds.

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    Ah yes, the 7-4mm. This little wonder never ceases to amaze me with it's ability to deliver crisp clear images. I paid a lot for this one when they first arrived, got it from Japan and have not regretted it for a moment. It delivers a better result than any other UWA lens I have used, even the faster lenses from Nikon, and the 10-20mm from Sigma.

    A few examples, all hand held:

    The Red Fort - Agra, India - GH1, f/6.3 @ 7 mm, 1/100, ISO 100


    Civic Square - Wellington NZ - G1, f/8 @ 7 mm, 1/320, ISO 100


    View from Governor's Chair - Spicers Gap SE Qld -GH1, f/7.1 @ 7 mm, 1/400, ISO 100


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    Phil... those are outstanding examples of what the magnificent 7-14 can offer. Thanks for posting those!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHart View Post
    Phil... those are outstanding examples of what the magnificent 7-14 can offer. Thanks for posting those!
    Thanks Don, the only Lumix lens I have not been happy with, and sold it after a couple of months, was the 45mm Macro. I have been really happy with all others though, the 14-140mm Lumix is also a stellar travel performer.

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    Matix... I know... the 7-14, 14-45, 14-140, and 20/1.7 are all stellar performers! I wouldn't want to be without any of them.
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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    The son of a friend made his debut as a racing driver this weekend. Here's before his first start. He did great!

    I think this photo is a great example of what can be done with the 7-14 and a camera with articulated LCD. Except for the toilet, and sometimes the bed, I don't go anywhere without the GH1 and 7-14. Never ever!

    GH1 with Pana 7-14 @ 7mm and f/4.5


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    Nice, Jorgen! And I couldn't agree more... the articulating screen on the GH cameras is an extremely valuable feature that makes image creation in many situation so very much easier... and the 7-14 is a gem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggibson View Post
    I just returned from a trip to the Grand Canyon. We stopped in Page, AZ on the first day long enough for a tour of Upper Antelope Canyon. My 7-14mm got it's first REAL workout on this trip, and performed beautifully in the slot canyon. My favorites, all 7-9mm:
    Wow, they are beautiful shots.. well done.

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    Excellent shot.

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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    The son of a friend made his debut as a racing driver this weekend. Here's before his first start. He did great!

    I think this photo is a great example of what can be done with the 7-14 and a camera with articulated LCD. Except for the toilet, and sometimes the bed, I don't go anywhere without the GH1 and 7-14. Never ever!

    GH1 with Pana 7-14 @ 7mm and f/4.5

    Absolutely agree, this is a wonderful shot. Well done, and thanks for sharing.

    Cheers

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    Glenn, great perspective. Well done.

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    Do you people miss not being able to use filters? I know 7mm may often be too wide for polarizer but not when shot vertically. It should also be very usable on the longer end. And what about ND filters og ND grads? These filters are essential for shooting landscape. (but I guess an E-P1 with a Lee filter holder would look a little silly).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauxon View Post
    Do you people miss not being able to use filters? I know 7mm may often be too wide for polarizer but not when shot vertically. It should also be very usable on the longer end. And what about ND filters og ND grads? These filters are essential for shooting landscape. (but I guess an E-P1 with a Lee filter holder would look a little silly).
    The biggest issue is not being able to use NDs for video capture to keep a wide aperture and a reasonable (1/60 or so) shutter speed.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonclivehughes View Post
    The biggest issue is not being able to use NDs for video capture to keep a wide aperture and a reasonable (1/60 or so) shutter speed.

    Cheers,
    Ok, I'm mostly thinking of filter usage as a landscape lens. Last year I went on a 25km hike up a glacier (Eyjafjallajökull the volcano) with my 1DsII and lot of glass (total of 15 kg) and was VERY tired. After that hike I've been thinking of switching my gear to m43 and Mamiya 7. But I do need my filters if this is supposed to work. The 9-18mm M.Zuiko takes 52mm filters, but from what I've read the Panasonic lens is a better lens.

    I remember someone doing some mixup to fit Lee holder to the 28mm Mamiya 645 lens. Anyone made any experiments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Glenn, great perspective. Well done.
    Thanks Louis

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    Hrannar,

    I originally bought the Olympus 9-18mm 4/3 (not m4/3) lens to use specifically because it had filter threads. But, the 7-14mm is simply in another class, and the additional 2mm makes a huge difference.

    I remember seeing some made-up solutions for attaching filters to the 7-14, but the issue you'll have (unless you go to very large filter holders/filters) will be vignetting.

    Although I don't have a solution for a polarizer, to compensate for NDs, I just expose for the sky and then pull out the shadow detail in post (or, bracket and then layer).

    The lens is just stellar, and it is possible to get great results without filters (other than the video problem I discussed). Hope this helps.

    Ciao,

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    Thanks SImon. I guess I could mix something to make my Lee filter holder fit the Panasonic 7-14. The Panasonic lens is more alluring (despite the higher price tag).
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    Some recent fun with the 7-14 on my GH-2

    Little Turnstile, Holborn, London


    View from the top of a disused water tower towards north London, over Regent's Canal, Eurostar train leaving St Pancras on the left.


    Distinctive entrance to Mary Ward House (Camden, London) in the 'Arts and Crafts' style.

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    Hey Louis... nice to see some new activity in this thread. And some wonderful images from you.

    This reminds me... I recently used this lens to get an image that required the wide FOV. Not very arty, but I like it.

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    Don, thanks for the kind comment. That car interior is a fantastic use of the lens. I almost feel as thought I am sitting in the driver seat!

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    Re: Panasonic 7-14

    I can't say that I'm using this lens very often. It is a little too large for me and difficult to master. The Olympus 9-18mm would probably have been better for my needs, but it wasn't yet issued when I got the 7-14mm. Anyway, last month I got a great occasion to use it. It was the end of the afternoon and the weather was at the same time rainy and sunny, the ideal weather for rainbows. Since five years that I'm living here, I had never seen such a perfect one. It was a double rainbow in fact and there was like a globe of soft yellow light over the city; then the second ring disappeared and soon it was over. As always in these situations, the result isn't really up to what I saw, but here you go :
    1) The double rainbow


    2) After the sun disappeared :

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    Killer double rainbow. Must have been fun just to see...

    Here's one from a recent Yosemite trip

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    Stunning double rainbow shot. Like you, I do not use my 7-14 often but having bought it I forget about what it is worth and just enjoy using it when the occasion suits. The first is worthy of a magazine shot, imho.

    Doug

    Fantastic example of the use of the lens for landscape shots. Lovely.

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