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    What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    I have used a Camdapter Manfrotto fit QR-plate together with my G1 camera since I bought the camera last winter. My most used head is a Manfrotto 468MGRC2. The camera with the QR plate:


    Pros:
    I can switch battery without removing the plate thanks to having it mounted turned 90 degrees
    I can move the camera between the head and the Manfrotto 293 tele support (as described by Peter here).
    It works

    Cons:
    The head can sometimes dip a little when locking the position. This happens with tele lenses

    Conclusion:
    I'm happy, but not very happy, with this solution.

    and finally the question:
    What's your solution?
    I'm interested in a good head that doesn't move at all when locking the camera position. It should have a QR plate where I can fasten the hand strap and the QR plate must not cover the battery door.

    I have read about the Markins Q-Ball Q3 Emille, maybe the Traveler version, and seem to remember it should work fine. What's your experiences, or other possible suggestions?

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Really Right stuff has two different plates that allow for battery access on GF1/G1/GH1

    BP - 6 is the smaller of the two.


    I've had two different setups. My newest setup is the Arca Swiss below. I've only done one real shoot with it but plan on doing a write up in the review section soon.

    Both work very well and can hold my heavier gear (A900 system)

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    Arca Swiss P0 + Arca Clamp





    Old:
    Gitzo 1780 + RRS Pano Clamp




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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Jonas, I haven't changed my tripod, head, plate solution from my past use. I have the larger Markins head--I think it is a 10L. On my other cameras I use RRS L brackets which do have a connection for a handstrap. I have an old Camdaptor with hand strap on my 400D---I couldn't see a way to use it with the G1 because of the way mine threads through the lugs--the strap that connects through the lugs won't fit the G1's--I'd be interested as to how you connected yours--can't tell from the photos.

    So--for the G1/GF1 I have an old Wimberly AS plate that does cover the battery door but hasn't been an issue for me and fits quite well except being a bit too long--I just carry a little Allen wrench to loosen it when I need to change batteries.

    I've checked RRS--and for the G1 they recommend a small bi-directional plate which allows for entry to the battery.
    http://reallyrightstuff.com/rrs/item...atus=0&Tp=&Bc=

    I'm a great fan of AS systems and find the Markins does not tilt with any lens (and assume the smaller ones are equally capable). What I do love about AS instead of Manfrotto and other QR systems is that it doesn't lock you into any system--usable with many heads, rails (I have the RRS focusing rail which I use for macro, panos, etc.) and a lot more flexible. You will be able to choose from a number of clamps (I don't use a QR--rather prefer a screw clamp), heads. And--there are a lot of plates available also--I haven't checked Kirk and others. Someone on this or another forum linked to a very inexpensive AS plate--but likely it does not have a slot for the handstrap---nor does the RRS bi-directional one just due to its design.

    The upshot of this is---I haven't really looked for a better solution. I use the Wimberly on either the GF1 or G1 when needed, I use an optech wrist strap (not handstrap) with the G1 and moved it to the left side ala Godfrey who suggested that it was easier to change lenses--and I only use it for safety purposes anyhow--not to carry. With the GF1 I use the same Wimberly plate (but will likely buy another flat plat--there are a number available that will fit) and continue to use my Optech neckstrap shortened to clasp and make a small 'handle' that I wrap on my hand--and can add the neck piece if I want to carry around neck (the only camera I've even considered carrying that way).

    I don't know about plates available for the m4/3rds right now--RRS plates in the past have had a slot for hand straps to be attached (I have the old Canon E1 strap on my 5D with an RRS AS L bracket). I just checked the Camdaptor site since it has a number with the AS plates, but none they recommend for the G1.

    So--in the end, nothing to suggest. I'm okay with my system. I like the AS plate--whichever mfg. I'm less inclined to be interested in a handstrap for the G1 or GF1 so haven't looked for an AS plate with a slot--and I'm still wondering what handstrap has a connection to the top that will go through the G1's lug.

    I would think that a Camdaptor with an AS plate (most of theirs) that has a connection to use with the G1 lugs and one of a number of AS clamps to use with a variety of heads would work--Both Markins and RRS would be good choices for heads/clamps. I just checked Markins and think the smaller ballheads would work fine. They have a bidirectional plate similar to RRS that should not cover the battery door. However, like RRS--it does not have a slot for a handstrap. That's the only issue I can see--finding a plate with the strap slot. Otherwise, I can recommend a lot of different AS sytems--I'm looking forward to Terry's review of her new system, but--for me--my old head/clamp/plates works well--I use it with 2 Manfrotto tripods.


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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
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    New:
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    Thank you Terry,

    That's an interesting newcomer. I found a user review of the head here. When you make your write-up on it will you please pay some attention to the remarks made about the head being a bit jerky when loaded with too light-weight equipment?
    The first impression is good; little weight and sturdy!

    /Jonas

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    (...)
    So--for the G1/GF1 I have an old Wimberly AS plate that does cover the battery door but hasn't been an issue for me and fits quite well except being a bit too long--I just carry a little Allen wrench to loosen it when I need to change batteries.
    (...)
    So--in the end, nothing to suggest. I'm okay with my system. I like the AS plate--whichever mfg. I'm less inclined to be interested in a handstrap for the G1 or GF1 so haven't looked for an AS plate with a slot--and I'm still wondering what handstrap has a connection to the top that will go through the G1's lug.
    Hi Diane, and thank you for the input.

    I turned the Camdaptor plate 90 degrees. It may look odd but works as well as a smaller plate would do - and I don't need to bring the Allen wrench. I know I would forget it, or be unable to find it some day when out...

    For the wrist strap (not "hand", thanks) I just use what Camdapter sent me. There were no problems getting the strap through the lug. It looks like this (an image from the archive but I think you can see how it works):


    regards,

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    LOL---Jonas, this is a DUH moment. I took those metal triangle things off my lugs at the very beginning because they rattled and have now, of course, forgotten where I put them. I even forgot they ever existed so couldn't figure out HOW you could get those straps through the lugs without them LOL. Well, I guess I'll just feel foolish LOLOL.

    I would recommend buying a plate that fits without covering the battery--like the RRS or Markins bi directional ones. When I think of it, I'll buy a smaller/shorter one and won't have to carry the Allen wrench, but for now, I always have one in every bag--and have one with multi sizes in my larger bag since I use them for a lot of different things-- tripod, etc.

    My referring to the Camdaptor as a handstrap is because I think of a strap that supports my hand as that--as opposed to the loopy strap (wrist strap) that you just slip over your wrist strictly as a safety thing--I would never actually carry the camera by one (though maybe some do--but it would swing around, wouldn't it??).

    I like my old Camdaptor on my 400d--AS plate and strap in one, but for my larger cameras I really prefer L brackets--just never bought one for that camera since I didn't use it much after I bought it as my 'small' cam--and discovered that it didn't afford me much difference once I put my EF lenses on it. That lead to my buying the G1 LOL.

    Hope you find a good solution. I have had my Markins for a number of years and love it. Quite a number of years ago I had Manfrotto heads and QR plates (I'm sure they are still around LOL--with my usual procrastination about selling off gear) but when I switched to Arca Swiss system, it opened up a lot of other easy possibilities for various plates/rails for different uses. AND--the Markins is stable with all my lenses--tightens down really tight--and the AS plates just don't allow slippage like the Manfrotto plates because of their design.

    Diane

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    On my G1 I use a small plate from Kirk , the PZ-130. Very small and unobtrusive. Will buy another for the GH1.

    My usual travel tripod setup is earmarked for the G1 and is a Gitzo 1541T plus an nice, light Acratech ball head + Kirk A-S plate. I also own a Markins 10 and have been very pleased, but I tend to use it with the big iron.

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    I use Acratech 2173 plate for the GH-1. I can get to the battery without moving the plate. I decided I didn't need an L plate.

    I use the Markins Q3 head with an RRS clamp. Great size and quality! I have this head on the Joby gorillapod focus. If I need a full height tripod then I break out my Bogen and BH-55.

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    I use both Acratech Ultimate Ball Head (fitted with Really Right Stuff LR-II clamp) and Markins Q3 heads. For the G1, I was using a FOBA generic plate with a cork liner but it blocked the battery door.

    Recently, I purchased an Acratech plate. Like the RRS plates I have, it has no compressible liner and the G1's tripod mounting boss stands proud of the camera base, so a lot of pressure is required to lock it in place. I corrected this ... took no more than two minutes, a scissors, a scrap of Epson Velvet Fine Art paper, and some rubber cement ...


    The result is absolutely secure, tidy, and fits perfectly with little stress on the camera.

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    Good info, Godfrey. I wonder how old your plate is? I just purchased mine in November so I wonder if they have made any slight changes to make the fit better? Or, maybe there is a slight body difference between the G-1 and GH-1? Thanks!

    Oh yeah, gotta love the Q3!!

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    I also use the RRS B-6 plate. I compressed a square piece of bicycle inner tube between the plate and the bottom of my G1 to insure a snug fit. I use a FOBA Mini SuperBall QR head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachp View Post
    Good info, Godfrey. I wonder how old your plate is? I just purchased mine in November so I wonder if they have made any slight changes to make the fit better? Or, maybe there is a slight body difference between the G-1 and GH-1? Thanks!

    Oh yeah, gotta love the Q3!!
    I ordered the plate on Dec 31 so it is the most recent vintage, far as I know. The issue is that the G1, unlike any other camera I've used, has this raised tripod mounting boss. It's subtle, but it makes a difference to camera stability on the plate. I don't know whether the GH1 has this too, but if it does the same fix applies.

    It is such a small and easy fix, I see nothing wrong with doing it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    LOL---Jonas, this is a DUH moment. I took those metal triangle things off my lugs at the very beginning because they rattled and have now, of course, forgotten where I put them. I even forgot they ever existed ...
    Hmm. You probably put them into the box the G1 came in.
    Lol, that explains why I couldn't figure out what the problem was. I imagined heavy duty wrist straps... but on the G1?

    (...)
    JT, rachp, Godfrey and Robert,

    Thank you for all the input, for the detailed replies as well as the shorter ones. You have given me some food for thoughts. I'll do some reading (incl Terry's coming report) and then who knows what will happen. I'm not in any hurry but in the long run I'll need something better than my current Manfrotto setup.

    carbon and clamps,

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    I just enquired with RRS about the best set up for the G1 and received the reply:

    "The plate needed for the G1 is the BPnS. I have tried to recommend the B6, but it needed some filing done to it to make it work, so I do not like to recommend it anymore for the GH1. I have to stick with the BPNS for that camera."

    This is the plate: http://reallyrightstuff.com/rrs/Item...c=BPnS&eq=&Tp=

    Any comments on this since it contradicts their own recommendation on the site?

    Thanks
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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Personally I'd just bypass it. I think I will either order one of the Acratech or Kirk plates. When I checked Kirk I found that they have an L for the GF1 also. Has anyone tried a Kirk L--since the RRS seemed to have some problems?

    I'm still not sure if I even want an L for the GF1--I've bought (and sold a few) Ls for almost every camera I've owned over the years as the new upgrade body almost never uses the old L. My preference would have been for the G1, but I understand there's been a problem in developing one due to the tilt screen.

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    I've been using the Gitzo 1178M head and plate. The plate is small and doesn't block access to the battery door. It works well for general use -- it's a very simple, 1-lever ball head.
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    I plan on using something like this: universal hand strap, then attaching a QR plate to it. I don't change my battery that often, only at the end of the day to recharge it, and the quick disconnect for the hand strap allows me to do that pretty easily.

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    I plan on using something like this: universal hand strap, then attaching a QR plate to it. I don't change my battery that often, only at the end of the day to recharge it, and the quick disconnect for the hand strap allows me to do that pretty easily.
    I bought something similar to this a few years ago for my Canon DSLR. Tried mounting my tripod plate to the bottom of it, but it didn't feel like a really solid solution -- there was some flex. Ultimately, I went with a Camdapter plate and strap for my Manfrotto.
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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    I don't understand the objection to the RRS B6 plate, unless it is the need to accommodate the raised area on the base of the G1, which is easily done without any filing, as described in earlier posts. The one RRS is now recommending, the BPnS, looks quite similar, except for the cork piece. Also, the B6 has an anti-twist lip which does not interfere in any way with the articulating LCD. It's not clear from the picture on the RRS site that the BPnS has the lip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mreddington View Post
    I just enquired with RRS about the best set up for the G1 and received the reply:

    "The plate needed for the G1 is the BPnS. I have tried to recommend the B6, but it needed some filing done to it to make it work, so I do not like to recommend it anymore for the GH1. I have to stick with the BPNS for that camera."

    This is the plate: http://reallyrightstuff.com/rrs/Item...c=BPnS&eq=&Tp=

    Any comments on this since it contradicts their own recommendation on the site?
    A friend uses the B-6 and it works fine, but it is subject to the same issues as I mentioned above, and has less room for a solution. This BPnS should work fine, but I think the Acratech with my mod is going to be more secure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    I'm still not sure if I even want an L for the GF1--
    Acratech has an excellent universal L-bracket concept ...
    http://acratech.net/product.php?productid=71

    This is the only L bracket that I'd buy. It's based on the notion that you have a standard camera plate and occasionally *need* an L-bracket ... while a bit on the pricey side, it provides the functionality for any body, rather than just one, and has a built in level of adjustability since you can move the camera position on the clamp easily.

    I don't need/use an L-bracket enough to want to spend $110-120 per camera body for a custom fitted one.

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    FIrst off, I am a total plate addict, and usually bolt custom L brackets to any new body the day it arrives and never take it off until the day I sell it. Expect when it comes to my M4/3 bodies. Here, I like them naked because they remain as small as possible, mainly use them hand-held even in crappy light, and basically don't even worry about camera movement -- a sort of street-shooter-esque philosophy. Heck, sometimes the motion blur even adds to the image!

    So when I do need a tripod, I either mount a ridiculously large generic base with rubber anti-skid pads on it and a screw that can be managed with a coin, or use my travel pod without clamp. My little Gitzo G1540 purposely has the Gitzo basic, clampless GH 1780 ballhead on it for this reason. I have an RRS threaded clamp mounted that is easily removable so I can simply mount the GF1 (or any other camera without plate) the old fashioned way, by screwing it onto the head. When I travel with only the GF1, the clamp is left home. Yes it takes 5 seconds longer to mount and unmount the camera this old fashioned way, but for the very few times I both with a tripod on the little camera, it works fine.

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    What an informative thread! Thanks, Jonas, for starting it.

    Quote Originally Posted by R. Bowman View Post
    I don't understand the objection to the RRS B6 plate, unless it is the need to accommodate the raised area on the base of the G1, which is easily done without any filing, as described in earlier posts. The one RRS is now recommending, the BPnS, looks quite similar, except for the cork piece. Also, the B6 has an anti-twist lip which does not interfere in any way with the articulating LCD. It's not clear from the picture on the RRS site that the BPnS has the lip.
    +1

    I'm happily using RRS B6 plates on both my G1 bodies -- though Godfrey's Acratech 2173 seems equally good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Acratech has an excellent universal L-bracket concept ...
    http://acratech.net/product.php?productid=71

    This is the only L bracket that I'd buy. It's based on the notion that you have a standard camera plate and occasionally *need* an L-bracket ... while a bit on the pricey side, it provides the functionality for any body, rather than just one, and has a built in level of adjustability since you can move the camera position on the clamp easily.

    I don't need/use an L-bracket enough to want to spend $110-120 per camera body for a custom fitted one.
    Thanks for this pointer, Godfrey. A much more economical long-term solution than repeatedly buying camera-specific L brackets.

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    I have this feeling that I'm going to feel foolish again on this thread LOL, but here goes.

    I agree with Godfrey--I'm just not willing to spend that money on a dedicated L bracket anymore either, but I really did like using one quite a lot (and the fit and finish of both the Kirks and RRSs have been lovely on the cameras---I prefer shooting handheld with my 5D with it on the camera--plus my old Canon E1 handstrap).

    I've looked at the Acratech and have a question. It says that it attaches to the camera via an AS clamp. Below that it says its compatible with a variety of various mfg. QR plates and clamps. SO----just looking at it (and it seems as though its reversed to me--the side portion of the L seems to be on the wrong side--the knob being on the bottom and normally the L extends up the left side looking at the back of the camera) it appears that the clamp has to have a plate to attach to. Does that mean that you have an AS plate attached to the camera, then attach the universal L bracket to the plate? OR--am I missing something????

    I like the concept of this--but realize its not a bracket one could leave on all the time (knob) as I do with my Ls on my 5D, etc. I'm not sure I would mind that since I shoot handheld a lot--just when using the tripod, clamp it on. If it is stable with a variety of camera bodies I wouldn't mind spending the money--just wish they had shown it ON a camera body so I could get some sense of how it fits.

    The other question is---how well it works with the cable that the RRS L for the GF1 had issues with. My 5D L has plenty of room but the connections are more easily accessed. Then there is the use of the tilt screen on the G1--I wonder if it would be usable at all. It they had it attached to a camera I think it would be possible to tell if there was room to use the tilt. Seems to me if it fits most DSLRS then it would be largish and perhaps allow room on the left side for the screen to possibly be used. Worse case, one could turn the LCD flat. But--if it doesn't touch the camera body side--it may not be stable enough.

    Seems to me the only way to find out is bite the bullet and order one from B & H where I could return it if it didn't work. I'd like very much the option to use an L on all my cameras--and esp. the 2 m4/3rds.

    So--thanks Godfrey--and maybe you or someone can tell me if my assumption in third paragraph is right or wrong.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Acratech has an excellent universal L-bracket concept ...
    http://acratech.net/product.php?productid=71

    This is the only L bracket that I'd buy. It's based on the notion that you have a standard camera plate and occasionally *need* an L-bracket ... while a bit on the pricey side, it provides the functionality for any body, rather than just one, and has a built in level of adjustability since you can move the camera position on the clamp easily.

    I don't need/use an L-bracket enough to want to spend $110-120 per camera body for a custom fitted one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    ...I've looked at the Acratech and have a question. It says that it attaches to the camera via an AS clamp. Below that it says its compatible with a variety of various mfg. QR plates and clamps. SO----just looking at it (and it seems as though its reversed to me--the side portion of the L seems to be on the wrong side--the knob being on the bottom and normally the L extends up the left side looking at the back of the camera) it appears that the clamp has to have a plate to attach to. Does that mean that you have an AS plate attached to the camera, then attach the universal L bracket to the plate? OR--am I missing something???? ...
    I thought the pictured looked odd too, so I wrote them. The clamp can be rotated in 90 degree increments. And yes, you fit a camera plate to the camera, and that's fitted to the L-bracket.

    How well it works ... well, the concept is good. There's a certain amount of acjustability with the plate so I don't think the issues with a custom fit apply.

    I don't own one yet ... perhaps soon. :-) Priorities ...

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Thanks Godfrey. As you say, priorities. My flat plate has been working for me. As I get into more tripod shooting in the Spring I may just find myself really wishing for an L and try it. I finally got around to ordering a cable release for the m4/3rds, so perhaps no L will work well with that.

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

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    Thanks Godfrey. As you say, priorities. My flat plate has been working for me. As I get into more tripod shooting in the Spring I may just find myself really wishing for an L and try it. I finally got around to ordering a cable release for the m4/3rds, so perhaps no L will work well with that.

    Diane
    Just to be clear on the RRS L bracket with cable release. It works fine if you are using a clap with a deep recess. For example with the Arca Swiss clamp I'm using it isn't a problem - there is clearance. However, with the RRS Pano clamp shown in the picture earlier in the thread there is a problem. So, while I wouldn't recommend that everyone go out and buy an L bracket for the GF1, there are ways in which they can work just fine. The silliest part of all this is that RRS only really needed to add about 1-2 mm to the current bracket and it would be fine.

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Thank you for all further thoughts on this matter.

    Terry; I'm intrigued by the new Arca Swiss p0 head. I always like new interesting thinking and engineering. Did you find it easy to find and control the locking ring with the camera mounted to the head? Is it easy to adjust the friction?

    I don't mind the manfrotto RC2 plates. They aren't really as "good" as the AS plates and clamps, the finish isn't really there and so on. But, they haven't failed me and I don't find them slippery. I just make sure I press I the camera at place and push the clamp release arm against the camera and I never experienced a problem.

    With all the input here and some thoughts about different solutions I guess my problem, simply enough, is just the head. I don't need an L bracket.

    The AS p0 and the Markins Q3 Emille are both of interest, I see the Q3 as a proven construction but it would force me to switch plates (several) while the p= may be a good head (unproven) allowing me to try a Manfrotto clamp.

    Oh well, the Manfrotto RC2 system isn't for the big boys... but the 4/3 stuff isn't that big, heavy or mean either.

    Thanks again,

    /Jonas

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Jonas,
    So far so good with the P0, I do really like it. A more elegant solution on the P0 is the clamp they sell with it

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    The problem is it uses their new proprietary plate that they are working on launching. I was not willing to change over from my other RRS plates.

    I have not found it hard to move or set. Nor have I found it jerky. However, again I haven't used it too much yet. I will be using it extensively at the end of February and was planning to do the write up at that time. I will probably go out shooting over the weekend and can give you an update at that time. i will take photos of the cameras on the tripod/head in different positions and post the "action" photos here.

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Yes, the native p0 clamp and the head look just fine together. But as mentioned, switching to their new "Slidefix" plate isn't anything I'm tempted to do. Lol, you saw what my blue G1 with the Camdapter Manfrotto RC2 plate looks like... I don't need a an elegant looking solution...

    If you have the time to post more of your impressions after the weekend that would be great! Meanwhile I'm happy to hear you find it easy to handle and not being jerky.

    /Jonas

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    Re: What's your 4/3 QR-plate and head solution?

    Terry,

    The new P0 looks very interesting but I am also interested in your experience with the Gitzo 1780 ballhead. It looks like a fairly elegant solution as well. Since you have them both I can wait for your review on the P0 but perhaps a few words on the 1780?

    I am attempting to put together a travel system and recently purchased a used (and old but still nice) Gitzo G01 tripod that is looking for a head. Trying to keep costs down if possible.

    Jim

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