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    Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=34705765

    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=34705424

    Some of the links on the in the second thread are broken but you can get good info.

    A week or two ago when the touch screen info was leaking out I was very skeptical. However it seems like they may have implemented it similar to an iPhone which could be very cool.

    The G10 seems to be lacking the articulated LCD (which is very useful) but it may be thinner than the G1 (approaching GF1) but with a grip and viewfinder.

    It seems pretty clear the big news this year will come later for Photokina where a GH2 is expected.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Not bad, but waiting for GH2 :-)


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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Odd that the G2 comes with a 14-42 lens, not the regular 14-45 lens from the G1 kit. Wonder if it's a new lens specifically optimized for video like the 14-140.

    Other than that, it's pretty exciting news! I think Panasonic is finally starting to get the fact that these are fully electronic media devices, so there's no reason not to treat them as such (by adding the touch screen for example). If this is the G2, I can't wait for the GH2! Hopefully shutter-less and with an improved sensor/processor to reduce noise and increase capture frame rate, and I may just replace my GH1 with it.
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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Pana link:

    http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...398514|398513|

    I would like to see more details...

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    touch screen...very c00L? yehh, adjusting exposure with your finger whiLe holding the EVF to your eye

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    I think the finger and the info would show in the EVF, Hudson.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    yehh... not enough fingers. I might have t' hire a focus puLLer...

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    ---> G10 720/30, no touch display, no tiltable display


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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    What is odd about the picture and lens is the lack of a switch to turn off the OIS.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by Y.B.Hudson III View Post
    yehh... not enough fingers. I might have t' hire a focus puLLer...
    Perhaps if you have the camera at eye level and the EVF is active the touch screen deactivates and the buttons come back into use.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Looks like the front dial that everyone bitches about is gone on both models.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    What is odd about the picture and lens is the lack of a switch to turn off the OIS.
    May be you can touch the screen to turn it off? If a lens can be focused by wire and aperture controlled, it should not be a big deal to turn off the OIS through the cam.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    May be you can touch the screen to turn it off? If a lens can be focused by wire and aperture controlled, it should not be a big deal to turn off the OIS through the cam.
    Either that, or perhaps an un-announced in-camera OIS? That would be sweet! Although I guess they'd mention that if it were true...
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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    EeK... I loved the wheel for quick exposure [email protected] I know instead of fingers you can use your nose to make the adjustment...that will free up fingers to focus my 50 yr old lens

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    I think that I saw the wheel moved to the back

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    Either that, or perhaps an un-announced in-camera OIS? That would be sweet! Although I guess they'd mention that if it were true...
    Then the lens would not say what it says.

    I also do not like the wheel rearrangement. That ain't a big deal actually.

    If Pana brings a cam saying G2, it better be really G2 and not a G1 with gimmicks.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Interesting to see that, aesthetically, not much has changed from the G1... I would love a "one-touch" magnification for manual lenses but haven't seen anything yet while sifting through the information. Regardless, it's very tempting for those without a G1!!

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    OK, teasers, then release. But when will they actually be available? Pana doesn't really have a stellar track record in this regard. Don't go selling your G1s and GH1s quite yet!

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    OK, teasers, then release. But when will they actually be available? Pana doesn't really have a stellar track record in this regard. Don't go selling your G1s and GH1s quite yet!
    I think it is much MUCH better than Samsung's.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    OK, teasers, then release. But when will they actually be available? Pana doesn't really have a stellar track record in this regard. Don't go selling your G1s and GH1s quite yet!
    I suspect we'll see Japan-only models (unless Pana decided to make the GUI language selectable/upgradeable) popping up on eBay with the usual 50% mark-up soon after the launch. I would think they'd be available in the U.S. right around May-ish. I'm guessing the G2 will sell for about $899 with the kit lens, and the G10 will be around $749 with the kit lens.
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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Thanks for the links Terry

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    If Pana brings a cam saying G2, it better be really G2 and not a G1 with gimmicks.
    Agreed, I hope Panasonic break some ground, especially with the NX10 knocking on the door.

    I also think Panasonic and Olympus will have to think about their pricing, could be lower but not at the expense of quality the NX10's priced very competitively in the UK:

    NX10 + 18-55m + 30mm pancake = 600 (at Jessops UK)
    G1 + 14-45mm = 449 or twin lens with the 45-200mm = 639
    EP2 + 14-42mm + EVF = 900
    EP1 + 17mm + 14-42mm + OVF = 740
    GF1 + 20mm = 650
    EPL1 + 14-42 = 550

    I hope there's better ISO and IQ, hopefully a newer sensor - like the rumored back lit one mentioned on 43rumors. Otherwise it might be worth considering a GH1, especially as its now available body only

    oh and speaking of 43rumors I cant seem to access their website - maybe they're busy updating?
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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Pana link:

    http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...398514|398513|

    I would like to see more details...
    Well based on the info on this site, both cameras get the touch-articulating lcd panel.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    I haven't been online all day so missed most of this. Just saw one link and this interested me "Shoot the exact image the camera sees without switching the setting of the display" which I'm guessing means that the ramp up of the LCD/EVF may be changed somewhat. I'm trying to figure out how I feel about touch screen. I'm perfectly happy with a dial---and can't be sure just how one would work with "Intuitive operation such as AF/Shutter/Playback by touching the screen" while holding the camera up to one's eye. Maybe I'm not getting it yet LOL. I did notice 'touch MF assist' so they appear to have implemented something direct for the G2--and maybe not touch the dial as with the GF1 (which works fine).

    This was the link I was looking at first http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...98513&index=1# but then tried the one here.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I think that I saw the wheel moved to the back
    It looks like it in these photos (same placement ast GF1) which allow you to move from one to the other with hovering over them

    http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...98513&index=1#

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    Last edited by hot; 5th March 2010 at 00:32.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    (Snip) I did notice 'touch MF assist' so they appear to have implemented something direct for the G2--and maybe not touch the dial as with the GF1 (which works fine).

    Diane
    Good catch Diane - Though it's still speculation the 'touch MF assist' sounds like it would require a tap on the LCD . Hopefully the MF assist stays active when the EVF is desired for MF but this seems to add a redundant step.

    I'm also a bit disappointed there's no remote flash control on the G2 as implemented in E-PL1. Has Panasonic done this with previous models?

    Cheers!

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    I just read a moment ago on 43rumors that some of the specs were incorrect LOL. They don't say which ones. I'm hoping that what Terry says is correct--that the 'touch' will turn to dials/buttons when using the EVF. I use the EVF almost totally with my G1 and 98% of the time with my GF1 and by now the buttons/dials are pretty intuitive and I haven't been able to see how the touchscreen would be used (except on tripod-which is fine with me) using the EVF. Not that I'm planning to upgrade either with the G2/G10 anyhow. It will take some changes in IQ (better DR, less noise in higher ISO's, etc.) for me to move up anytime soon.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    I just read a moment ago on 43rumors that some of the specs were incorrect LOL. They don't say which ones. I'm hoping that what Terry says is correct--that the 'touch' will turn to dials/buttons when using the EVF. I use the EVF almost totally with my G1 and 98% of the time with my GF1 and by now the buttons/dials are pretty intuitive and I haven't been able to see how one would use them (except on tripod-which is fine with me) using the EVF. Not that I'm planning to upgrade either with the G2/G10 anyhow. It will take some changes in IQ (better DR, less noise in higher ISO's, etc.) for me to move up anytime soon.

    Diane
    Well since all of the buttons and dials are still there albeit in better locations I would assume they've figured this out. If the pictures are correct, adding the focus type to the focus mode dial will be a good change. The wheel on the back mixed/good (I'm used to the G1). the quick menu on back good.

    The specs looked pretty right to me...the links were to Panasonic so not sure other than missing something what would be "wrong" with the specs.

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    I don't know about what specs are wrong but they say that "Panasonic' has fed the wrong data and the pages have been changing--or something like that LOL. To quote them (4/3rds rumor)" The specs everybody is talking about are partially INCORRECT!
    We from 43rumors can confirm you trough (sic) our trusted sources that some specs are completely wrong. Panasonic leaked us a non correct List of G2 and G10 specifications. I am sure that the leaked Panasonic page was just a work in progress page!"

    And one of my best sources has a message for you: “PS: And tell your visitors the Touchscreen is cool ;-)


    Yes, looks like dials/buttons are where they would/could be used just fine. In truth, I'm more interested in what the cameras will improve upon image wise. Otherwise for now, I'll stick with what I have and wait until Fall for PHotokina (likely will do that anyhow LOL).

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    43 rumors has some apparently correct specs here:

    http://43rumors.com/ft5-panasonic-g2...nic-g10-specs/

    Whats interesting is the G2's Venus Engine HD 2 so hopefully some improvements in IQ
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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Still looks like I might skip this generation and wait to see what happens in the fall. With all the talk about the bodies, we haven't heard much about lenses. I wonder whether some of the new ones will also come out this weekend. I'm totally clueless what price to expect for the 100-300mm, that should be interesting, not that I am hopping up and down with anticipation...

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    yehh... G2 with a touch shutter and a touch MFA on a flip-out screen...that could be an interesting t00L...

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    Re: Looks like the leaks are starting G2/G10

    Touch focus on the articulated screen. Looks like a neat feature!
    http://hardwarezone.com.sg/features/view/7811
    Scroll down on page 3

    Cheers, Michiel

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