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    This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    So, given that the 100-300mm looks like it will not make it by this summer (Maybe Photokina?), I am going to need something with a longer reach than the 45-200mm by July.

    I currently have a 70-300mm nikkor, but that is heftier than I would like although it may be the route I have to go.

    I am looking for something that is relatively compact, has good image quality, and not too expensive that could get me out to at least 500mm equivalent with a 600mm equivalent preferable.

    Suggestions?

    Thanks in advance,

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    Have you considered the Canon 300f4 (non-IS)? I have the IS version and it is very good and it should be relatively inexpensive (~ $500?). You may have to shoot wide open at f4 if you don't have another Canon body to set the aperture. But, I won't hesitate to shoot that lens wide open and you probably need the shutter speed anyway. It is quite light and you can shoot handheld all day long. You can buy a tripod collar if you like. Look for a third party collar which should cost you 1/10 of what a Canon collar costs. On the G1/GH1, it is more like shooting with a 600 mm and you will need all the shutter speed you can afford and use all the good long lens technique.
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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    I agree with Stephen on the Canon. I also have shot with the Konica Hexanon 300mm AR 4.5.....It's relatively light (not a monster) and takes nice photos when you have good lighting.

    These sell generally less than the Canons.

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    The Olympus 70-300mm four thirds lens is what I'd look into.

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Doug,

    If you already own Nikon, then perhaps consider the Nikkor 300mm f4 lens. With a 1.4X teleconverter, you'll get up to 840mm, and the lens gives beautiful results on the u4/3's bodies. It doesn't solve the weight issue however, but then neither does the Canon lens.

    Cheers,

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    I'll add my vote for either an FD 300f4 or the OM 300f4.5

    both really good (I owned both). If you don't need AF (and I don't think IS will work on the EF lens on the panasonic) then it's hard to beat the value of these

    http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2009/08...two-teles.html

    some samples on my flickr stream

    you can get the FD at KEH for under US$200 (make sure you get the f4 as it has the tripod collar)

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Hi, Doug,

    hard to give advice if we don't know what you need this lens for
    I myself use either the Zoom-Nikkor 50-300mm/4.5 or the Reflex-Nikkor 500/8 when I need the extra reach, like for shooting pics of birds in the garden.

    Have you considered catadioptric lenses ? Usually they are lighter and cheaper than all glass lenses. But you have to live with the bokeh !

    Unless you would go for this one, of course but the weight difference in you wallet will be overcompensated by the weight of the lens

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post
    I am looking for something that is relatively compact, has good image quality, and not too expensive that could get me out to at least 500mm equivalent with a 600mm equivalent preferable.

    Suggestions?
    Doug, The Olympus pen F 250/5 fits the bill (perhaps except the "price" and availability) nicely. Tiny and light weight compared to the 300/4s and similar from any system. Come with a fabulous built in tripod mount and lens shade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Doug, The Olympus pen F 250/5 fits the bill (perhaps except the "price" and availability) nicely. Tiny and light weight compared to the 300/4s and similar from any system. Come with a fabulous built in tripod mount and lens shade.
    hmmm ... you don't have a picture of that do you? Seems to be none around.

    as a 250 however its a tough call ... the extra 50mm may or may not be noticeable over 200, which then opens up a number of 200mm options that are lighter, faster, have tripod mounts or many of the above ;-)

    poking about on KEH I see there is an Olympus OM two touch 80-250 zoom with a lens based tripod mount (but missing) for $89, and a PEN F 250 too ... not that dear really

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Okay, some really good suggestions.

    To answer as to why, we are going on an Alaska cruise this summer with my in laws who are celebrating their 50th and we are celebrating our 25th.

    So, unfortunately, I anticipate being on the ship when I want to be "over there" wherever "there" is. Also, whales, dolphins, eagles, bears on shore, etc... All are possibilities. So, I do not think the 45-200 will have the reach I want.

    And unfortunately, the money goes into the cruise rather than lenses for some reason ...

    I like Vivek's idea of the pen 250 as it seems smaller. I'll have to look at the mirror lenses to see what they weigh in at as well.

    I wonder if there are any smallish catadioptric lenses...

    All food for thought,

    Doug
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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post
    Okay, some really good suggestions.

    To answer as to why, we are going on an Alaska cruise this summer with my in laws who are celebrating their 50th and we are celebrating our 25th.
    Congratulations on the anniversaries.

    Alaska........the last frontier of photo ops. I have been going up there every year, and while not going on a cruise ship (which sounds like a nice stable platform), I do go out whenever I can on the bird/whale/glacier tour boats. It's a really challenging photographic environment....very wet, VERY bumpy. I don't think I would choose any of the m4/3 cameras or MF lenses (no matter how long) for this purpose. AF and IS (along with weatherproofing) are a must.

    That sounds discouraging.....maybe it's just me, that I always seem to hit the more marginal weather. Good luck...I am sure you will have bright sun and glassy seas.

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Doug

    on another forum a fellow highly recommends a Tokina 350mm mirror lens ... light n small

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Congratulations on the anniversaries.

    Alaska........the last frontier of photo ops. I have been going up there every year, and while not going on a cruise ship (which sounds like a nice stable platform), I do go out whenever I can on the bird/whale/glacier tour boats. It's a really challenging photographic environment....very wet, VERY bumpy. I don't think I would choose any of the m4/3 cameras or MF lenses (no matter how long) for this purpose. AF and IS (along with weatherproofing) are a must.

    That sounds discouraging.....maybe it's just me, that I always seem to hit the more marginal weather. Good luck...I am sure you will have bright sun and glassy seas.

    R
    Well, we won't be on many of the tour boats as they charge large amounts, and for a party as large as ours will be, that really adds up fast per person. Once we hit port, we will be making our own way (with some advanced prep work).

    So, I am really interested in something that I can use from the ship for a longer reach; it would kinda suck to be on board and missing good whale shots for instance because I didn't have anything long enough. Once on shore, I will revert back to my normal kit I imagine.

    Thanks,
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    Doug

    on another forum a fellow highly recommends a Tokina 350mm mirror lens ... light n small
    Hmm, I am not finding a Tokina 350mm mirror. There is a Tamron, and some others...

    Thanks,
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    yes, you're right ... Tamron

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/1084614...7623176398984/

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Hi, Dough

    for such long reach, I would recommend longer FL than 300mm.
    You could buy a 500mm f8 from Nikon for not all too expensive on the evilbay.
    Take a look at this selection :

    http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

    I have one of those, and it's really a nice lens !

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    For such cases I snapped up a Leica Telyt 250/4 plus a 2x extender. The 250 is not yet such a monster as the longer ones, the extender doesn't deteriorate the picture to being unusable, the combo gives me 2 lengths for some variability, and it won't loose much in value should I ever decide to resell it again. But it clearly is not the lightest option...

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    I've used a lot of different catadioptric lenses, and the newer Nikon one is probably the best of the affordable ones. That said, a Tamron 500/8 is probably the best value, and should be findable.

    Some companies such as Sigma, Vivitar and Perkins-Elmer made 'solid cats' which are a bit heavier, but all were made to a fairly high standard and can deliver very good quality. They tend to be longer f.l. such as 650 or 800 and even more. The basic caveats mentioned below still apply.

    All cat lenses have the obvious disadvantage of donut bokeh, but also have lower contrast than refractive lenses. This is not as big a deal for digital as it was for film, but still is not that good. The real downside is that while the lenses may say f/8, they're really t/11 to 16, so you need lots of light, especially with such a long reach. Their light weight also makes them less easy to hold steady, unless you hold them up to your eye for a long time.

    The lenses with f.l. less than 500 generally have even less contrast, so the 350's (or even the couple of 250's made) are not as desirable on that account. On the other hand the 350's made by Tokina and Tamron (again, my preference is for the Tamron) are f/5.6, translating into t/8 or 9 in the case of the Tamron and t/9 to 10 for the Tokina.

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    I have been to Alaska several times and shot from boats on every trip (although I have never been on a cruise ship). This is a once in a lifetime experience for many. You will see lots of wildlife--whales, eagles, bears on the shore, all as you expect and maybe even more so! However, distances will be long and you can expect overcast weather much of the time (you might get lucky but be ready for cloudy and even rainy/sprinkly weather).



    I will assume that you do not want to really shoot much at 1600 or above and are looking to tap the better image quality in the ISO 200-800 range.



    For shipboard shooting I would most definitely recommend a zoom as your subjects will be at different distances and often moving (whales, dolphins, eagles in flight etc). Also, I would recommend IS as pretty essential. I definitely not leave your 45-200 behind as you might find it essential for much of your shooting.



    You have an excellent longer option with the Nikon 70-300 and you really do not need anything else. Why spend the money?



    If you truly want the best range of longer focal lengths, probably the ultimate choice would be the Sigma 50-500 zoom. It is larger, heavier and more expensive, but there is nothing you will encounter that that lens will not cover from the ship and with very good quality.



    For probably the best image quality, but with a loss of flexibility, I would also vote for the Canon (or Nikon) 300mm f4. You get 600mm equiv. with wide aperture for fast shutter allowing lower ISO. Can use a teleconverter for 420mm (840 on m4/3!!) and still have 5.6. Again, care in technique is essential and the 840 length may be unuseable much of the time. A shorter 250 makes no sense-- only 20% more magnification over your already good 200. To make a difference, add a 300.



    But, remember that without IS, any focal length 300mm (600mm equivalent) or over is going to be difficult to impossible to use. Even though a ship is stable, I suggest bringing a monopod which you can also brace against the ship's rail. This will give you worlds of improvement over hand-holding and make the difference between once-in-a-lifetime quality shots and blurry snaps.



    Whatever lens you choose, at least consider adding a polarizing filter which will make a significant improvement when photographing into the water.



    I would NOT get any mirror lenses. The focal lengths suggested (350/500) are 700 and 1,000 equivalents and you will not be able to handhold them or even monopod them and get reliably decent results. Their bokeh is atrocious and that really shows in wildlife photos. If you are photographing over water for whales, birds and such, the out of focus highlights in the water will show as donuts and are very distracting, and even dark backgrounds are busy and unpleasant looking. These lenses can be very sharp but their contrast problems cause loss of detail. They are niche lenses for ultra-portable ultra-telephoto lengths, but not real contenders in terms of image quality. You cannot use a filter on most them and even if you could they are too slow to allow a polarizer.



    To sum it up:



    Bring your 45-200 with IS!

    Best zoom combo to reach 600mm equiv--add your Nikon 70-300 and no more cost!

    Best extreme-range option: add the Sigma 50-500

    Best image quality: add the Canon/Nikon 300mm f4, with 1.4 converter if you want.

    Monopod essential.

    Polarizer recommended.



    Hope this helps!



    Guy

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    The obvious, not too expensive, half functional,moderately good quality choice is the Oly 70-300. It should be findable at less than $300. Used with the 4/3 to m4/3 adaptor it will autofocus on AFS and the aperture will work. There is no IS (with a Panasonic camera) so a monopod is a good idea. I have seen very good results from this lens (see Laura Pipkin's 2008 gallery at pbase) so its quality is good enough to not compromise your photos.

    A Nikon, Pentax, or Canon FD 300/4 would also be good but MF only, more expensive, and much larger.

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    Tele-Takum ar 300mm f6.3

    The suggestions have all been for lenses which are too heavy for a Micro Four Thirds camera. The whole point is to keep the outfit as light as possible.

    Think slow. Here is the lightest (non-reflex) 300mm lens, the Tele-Takumar f6.3 preset. The curtailed aperture is no drawback on my E-P2 -- the screen brightens automatically to compensate.




    Here is a shot I took with this lens yesterday, a Ring-necked duck on a nearby pond.


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    I just got myself and my Panny G1 a Canon FD 300mm f4. Great lens, superb quality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryMK View Post
    I just got myself and my Panny G1 a Canon FD 300mm f4. Great lens, superb quality...
    agreed ... L series out of interest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pellicle View Post
    agreed ... L series out of interest?
    No, no L series. That one is hard to find.

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    have you looked in this old thread??
    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showth...199#post112199

    on a bright day, i'd have no hesitation recommending the OM 500 F8 mirror lens!!
    my fallback is the panny 45-200mm with my G1 in EZ Zoom mode

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    I think you'd be better off using the 45-200 and cropping.

    I'm not sure a monopod is needed. On public whale watches you're always running from one side of the boat to the other, along with everyone else, and a monopod could get in the way. Resting the lens on the rail will help, but don't do it if the engine is on.

    I'd stay away from the mirror lenses. Very slow (you'll need all the shutter speed you can get) and optically poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewk View Post
    I'd stay away from the mirror lenses. Very slow (you'll need all the shutter speed you can get) and optically poor.
    As a sweeping generalization, your comment begs to be argued. Ponder the images from the Hubble, if you will. Ask yourself why a Zeiss Mirotar can cost $5k. Perhaps it's because it is fast, not slow., http://cgi.ebay.com/Carl-Zeiss-f-Con...item563a9e7509.

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    I get the sense you like to argue Allan. I will concede that the Hubble beast my Canon telephotos when it comes to nebula photography. For nature photos I stay away from mirror lenses due to fixed, typically slow speed, nauseating bokeh and flat contrast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewk View Post
    I get the sense you like to argue Allan. I will concede that the Hubble beast my Canon telephotos when it comes to nebula photography. For nature photos I stay away from mirror lenses due to fixed, typically slow speed, nauseating bokeh and flat contrast.
    I seem to like to argue with you, apparently. Now you've stated another falsehood, that mirror lenses lack contrast. A mirror lens has far fewer glass/air interfaces at which contrast can be attenuated.

    Bad bokeh? On that we can agree.

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    I have the 300/2.8L and a Sigma 600/8. I took them both to
    the wetlands. The mirror is light and compact & I have had some
    great, sharp shots with it.... from close range. Out at the wetlands
    I simply couldn't get a decent shot at distance. It did lack contrast
    and I couldn't focus the sucker for nothin. I tried, I really tried.

    I had an old mirror back in the AE-1 days and loved it for short distance
    macro shots...........
    http://hodad66.com Sony A7r,A7II, Sony 70-300G, Rokinon 14/2.8, Leitz Wetzler 35/3.5, Leica R Summicron 50/2 & Elmarit 90mm/2.8, Contax N 24-85 & 70--200mm AND Canon FD 20/2.8, 135/2, 500mm 4.5, Minolta 35/1.8, 45mm/2, Nikon 28-50/3.5, 105/1.8, 180/2.8

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    This thread got me thinking that I might like a nice, small travel telephoto for my E-P1 kit. I decided on a Canon FD 300mm f5.6.

    Good optical quality, about the same weight as the 4/3rds 70-300mm zoom and dirt cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewk View Post
    This thread got me thinking that I might like a nice, small travel telephoto for my E-P1 kit. I decided on a Canon FD 300mm f5.6.

    Good optical quality, about the same weight as the 4/3rds 70-300mm zoom and dirt cheap.
    Getting back to Alaska,.......last spring when I was there it was overcast...a lot. I think it rained every day in my honor.

    In these more marginal conditions, I think a faster lens is better....because you also need faster shutter speeds (even with IBIS, if your camera supports it) too. Or shoot at ISO 3200

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    Yes, faster is better, but more money and more weight.

    We could talk about trade offs forever, but it's really up to the individual.

    I went with the 300mm f5.6 lens because it will fit upright in a Domke f-803 and that's my designated E-P1 bag. Besides, with manual focusing I could use a bit more DOF.

    When I feel like doing some serious bird photography I break out the big Canon glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewk View Post
    This thread got me thinking that I might like a nice, small travel telephoto for my E-P1 kit. I decided on a Canon FD 300mm f5.6.
    I considered that lens too. I opted for the Takumar 300mm f6.3 mainly because I already had an M42 adapter.

    Your Canon FD 300mm f5.6 has the essential tripod collar. I've found that magnified manual focusing on the E-P2 without having the rigidity of this central support is virtually impossible. I tried my Minolta AF Apo 100-300mm, but gave up on using that.

    I expect you will be very happy with your FD.

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    I wonder how effective is the EP1 body IS with a 300mm lens. Kewk and Allan, can you comment on that. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slau View Post
    I wonder how effective is the EP1 body IS with a 300mm lens. Kewk and Allan, can you comment on that. Thanks.
    The 300mm lens really needs to be on a tripod to enable critical focusing with the magnified view. At least, I think so. I have not tried mine without this support. I set IS to OFF, the recommended setting when using a tripod.

    I took an SMC Takumar 150mm f4 out today on its maiden outing. I was using a monopod so set the mode to IS3. Here is a shot from this lens, taken at f8:



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    fwiw, i'd think the ep-1/2 gf-1 style bodies aren't a good choice for handheld shooting with the longer Focal Length Lenses. The extra point of stability when using the EVF on the G1/GH1 bodies adds enough additional stability for critical focusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcubed View Post
    fwiw, i'd think the ep-1/2 gf-1 style bodies aren't a good choice for handheld shooting with the longer Focal Length Lenses. The extra point of stability when using the EVF on the G1/GH1 bodies adds enough additional stability for critical focusing.
    With any long lens, you cradle the lens to do hand-held shooting, not try and hold the lens cantilevered from the body of the camera. The E-P1/E-P2 works fine with longer lenses but the tripod mount is not very strong so a tripod collar is essential. The thin aluminium base plate (no, it isnít stainless steel Ė only the body veneer is) will bend very easily.

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    The operative phrase in the previous post is "extra point of stability" of the EVF possessing camera body. I doubt the poster meant the camera with long lens be held with 2 hands and no lens support.

    Now, my effective 500mm lens solution would allow hand holding the camera with 2 hands, if one wanted to do that.

    I have hesitated to post this, as I haven't started the job yet, but I will be converting the Minolta MD 250mm Cat lens to m4/3s mount. This lens is about as light and small as it can be at 9 oz. and will give an effective 500mm.

    I have yet to acquire a E-P2 or G-something for the process, but was thinking of the in-body stabilizer Olympus, so I would also be interested in the in-body stabilizer of the Olympus EP-x cameras. Any other thoughts?

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by JimBuchanan View Post
    I have hesitated to post this, as I haven't started the job yet, but I will be converting the Minolta MD 250mm Cat lens to m4/3s mount. This lens is about as light and small as it can be at 9 oz. and will give an effective 500mm.
    I cringed when I saw your photo. I had this lens, but sold it three years ago before the price skyrocketed. I did not then foresee the coming of m4/3s. It is a marvelous lens.

    I have an MD adapter for my EP-2 -- these are cheap, and effective.

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Ostling View Post
    I cringed when I saw your photo. I had this lens, but sold it three years ago before the price skyrocketed. I did not then foresee the coming of m4/3s. It is a marvelous lens.

    I have an MD adapter for my EP-2 -- these are cheap, and effective.
    Well, the substory is that I was commisioned to convert this lens to EF mount, and in the process accidentally broke the rear element. I had to offer to buy the lens from its owner and was taken aback when I found them selling for $700 and up on ebay, which is what I paid the owner. This emocon is how I felt.

    Weeks later I realized that the rear element just extended the focal plane to 43.5mm of the Minolta register. Without the rear element, the m4/3 20mm register is still possible, therefore the plan to convert to m4/3. Right now the m4/3 bayonet is just sitting on the lens, in the photo.

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    If you can find one, the Canon FL-F 300/5.6 is a superb lens in a compact form, because it's the first lens ever made with fluorite elements. It's shorter than a regular 300mm telephoto yet it delivers sharp images with lots of contrast, great colors and no chromatic aberrations, even when used wide open. Here are a few pictures taken on my E-P1, all hand held and without sharpening:

    Wide open:


    100% crop, no chromatic aberration, even in bright sunlit areas:


    Wide Open:


    At F/8.0:


    Interior shot, from the upper level of a shopping mall, wide open:


    100% crop (with a bit of sharpening, you can actually read the paper, which was located about 15 meters away):


    Cheers!

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    This thread got me thinking. I use a Sony VCL-DH1758 1.7x Tele Conversion lens on my Canon S5 for wildlife & started to wonder what it would do on the front end of my 45-200. I put it on & set up on our balcony to try it out at different ranges. This converter yields a FL of 340mm or 680 equivalent. All shots are at maximum zoom.





    2. This squirrel acquired house is about a hundred feet away




    3. The small Pine is about 300 feet away




    4. The water tower is about 4 km away.

    Panasonic G1 & GF1 bodies, Panasonic 14-45, 45-200mm, various Minolta, Pentax, Canon FD, M39 & M42 mount lenses.

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Evers View Post
    This thread got me thinking. I use a Sony VCL-DH1758 1.7x Tele Conversion lens on my Canon S5 for wildlife & started to wonder what it would do on the front end of my 45-200. I put it on & set up on our balcony to try it out at different ranges. This converter yields a FL of 340mm or 680 equivalent. All shots are at maximum zoom.
    Ron,
    An interesting low cost alternative. The only image that shows sharpness is the bird house through the fence. Given that the 45-200 is not massively sharp, how do you find its sharpness in this combo? How does the combination handle? No tripod mount, obviously, so that would imply handheld or bean bag potentially.

    It looks like it might cantilever the mount on the camera a fair bit. Did you find it torquing the mount when you have the camera mounted to your tripod?

    Thanks,

    Doug

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post
    Ron,
    An interesting low cost alternative. The only image that shows sharpness is the bird house through the fence. Given that the 45-200 is not massively sharp, how do you find its sharpness in this combo? How does the combination handle? No tripod mount, obviously, so that would imply handheld or bean bag potentially.

    It looks like it might cantilever the mount on the camera a fair bit. Did you find it torquing the mount when you have the camera mounted to your tripod?

    Thanks,

    Doug
    This was the first time I had it on the G1 but I shoot with it on the S5 hand held all the time & do not find it much forward heavy; it is only 250gm (about a half pound). The light was poor @ the time with wind & light drizzle which will rob away from the sharpness of the images.

    I was not concerned about over-stressing the tripod or lens mounts with the converter mounted as I have hung some much heavier glass on the G1 before.

    Just an idea for you to consider.
    Panasonic G1 & GF1 bodies, Panasonic 14-45, 45-200mm, various Minolta, Pentax, Canon FD, M39 & M42 mount lenses.

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    Re: This summer will need a 300mm - suggestions

    Canon FD 300mm f/4.5, used on eBay, $ 100 with its 2x Canon Extender 2X-B:




    If you add the 2nd extender (2X-A), you get this:



    This is not a correct configuration, but it's still fascinating...

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