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    E-PL1

    Blue E-PL1, I like the color, grip is more substantial than E-P1, built-in flash, and EVF option, at $600 with 14-42 it's a lot less than the GF1 14-45 kit...

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    Looks nice.
    How's the AF compared to the E-P1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Blue E-PL1, I like the color, grip is more substantial than E-P1, built-in flash, and EVF option, at $600 with 14-42 it's a lot less than the GF1 14-45 kit...
    Thanks Monza

    I guess there is no hope of them doing body only?

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    Re: E-PL1

    SKU 262855 is body only, but it's only $50 less. Probably best to buy the body with lens and then ebay the lens.

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    Iridient Digital's Raw Developer now supports the E-PL1... I got a bLue one... it should complement my Hello Kitty bag.

    Thanks to Monza.

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    Re: E-PL1

    If you are a mac user ... and your favorite app supports e-p2 but not e-pl1... then this little app may help

    facefullofbees.com

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    Re: E-PL1

    Is there a proper sized EVF available for this? Will GF-1's "optional" EVF will work with this?

    Why would they not sell a cam with an EVF alone instead of the kitzoomm?

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    Re: E-PL1

    E-PL1 use same EVF as E-P2. That EVF is very nice.

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    I have owned the E-P1 then the GF-1, then the EP-2.
    None of them made me happy.
    Now I have the E-PL1 with the Olympus EVF and I am finally happy.
    Olympus finally got it right

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    Re: E-PL1

    Quote Originally Posted by frank2001 View Post
    I have owned the E-P1 then the GF-1, then the EP-2.
    None of them made me happy.
    Now I have the E-PL1 with the Olympus EVF and I am finally happy.
    Olympus finally got it right
    Can you compare and contrast what you like about the E-PL1 that you didn't like about the other Olys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank2001 View Post
    I have owned the E-P1 then the GF-1, then the EP-2.
    None of them made me happy.
    Now I have the E-PL1 with the Olympus EVF and I am finally happy.
    Olympus finally got it right

    Could you please let me know why do you prefer EPL1 over EP2 (what are the reasons, what are the advantages, other than price)

    Thanks,

    I guess Terry was first but still....

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    Re: E-PL1

    Same question here. Besides being a tad lighter and having a better (?) grip, what makes the E-PL1 the better choice?

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    Re: E-PL1

    I dont own E-PL1, but from spec, major advantage over E-P1 are wireless control of external Olympus "R" flashes, EVF, internal flash.
    However I handled E-PL1, and it seems less well made than E-P1 or E-P2. Also, grip is bigger, bit doesnt seems better. I think Ricoh has best grip for small cameras.

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    Re: E-PL1

    How about the shutter speed? I heard E-PL1 only goes up to 1/2000.
    I lke pictures with low DOF, is it enough to take picture with f1.5 outside on sunny day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwatro View Post
    How about the shutter speed? I heard E-PL1 only goes up to 1/2000.
    I lke pictures with low DOF, is it enough to take picture with f1.5 outside on sunny day?
    ... do the math...sunny 16 rule... f/1.5 @ ISO 100 = 12,800/sec...

    duh... don't know of a camera that does that.

    Looks like you need a neutral density filter ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photomorgana View Post
    Could you please let me know why do you prefer EPL1 over EP2 (what are the reasons, what are the advantages, other than price)

    Thanks,

    I guess Terry was first but still....
    Sorry I didn't respond sooner
    I wasn't subscribed to the thread
    I started with an E-P1.
    I didn’t care for the LCD and the AF was slow. However, I did sell it before the AF firmware update.
    The biggest problem was trying to focus with the 45-200mm Panasonic lens. The balance, at arm’s length, was just awkward and the LCD was not good in daylight.
    I then switched to the GF-1 and the EVF. It was better but the EVF was disappointing compared to my G1.
    The jpegs weren’t as nice either and I do not want to have to post process every shot.
    Then came the E-P2. Great little camera build and feel are high quality. It reminded me of a little Leica.
    The Olympus EVF is hands down better than the Panasonic and balance with the Camera held like an SLR made the Panasonic 45-200mm very usable.
    Only drawback, you cannot use flash and EVF at the same time.
    So Olympus announces the E-PL1 a week after I got my E-P2.
    Had to give it a try so I ordered one as soon as they were available.
    I am happy I did.
    I have big hands and the E-PL1, even though it is smaller, it just feels better than the others.
    That little grip helps a lot.
    It has a built in flash so I can use the EVF and fill flash plus. It has, IMHO, better out of the camera images.
    Frank

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    Re: E-PL1

    EPL-1.../ jupiter 8 @ 2.8, ISO 100 "scratchin' post"



    raw developer conversion, no sharpening, no noise reduction, no adjustments...

    LCD screen loves fingerprints ... VF-2 recommended for bright light situations.

    ergonomics for manual focus and exposure lock are very good , though the "focusing patch" movement is herky jerky... and needs a firmware fix.


    cheers Hudson...

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    Re: E-PL1

    Nice photo, Hudson.

    Is there any reason the more expensive E-PL1 (plus EVF) is better than the G1 in terms of image quality or is it purely a matter of camera fetish?

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    *what if* instead of converting a 2d Panasonic GF1 to IR....... converting the Oly E-PL1 to IR instead....??

    -saves about $200 initial body acquisition over another GF1 with 14-45
    -leave 14-42 lens on the E-PL1 for IR

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    *what if* instead of converting a 2d Panasonic GF1 to IR....... converting the Oly E-PL1 to IR instead....??

    -saves about $200 initial body acquisition over another GF1 with 14-45
    -leave 14-42 lens on the E-PL1 for IR
    Just my 2 cents, but when I had the G1 and EP1, shooting with the two different interfaces drove me nuts. YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    *what if* instead of converting a 2d Panasonic GF1 to IR....... converting the Oly E-PL1 to IR instead....??

    -saves about $200 initial body acquisition over another GF1 with 14-45
    -leave 14-42 lens on the E-PL1 for IR
    In converting a m4/3 camera to IR I would HIGHLY recommend converting a camera with a viewfinder. So, G1/GF1/EP2/E-PL1. The image on the LCD will be very muted and in bright sunlight you will find it hard to even frame the shot. The best value, most practical would be a used G1. The most compact would be the GF1/E-Pl1.

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    Decisions, decisions....

    I already have a GF1 (20mm, 14-45, EVF) that I love; the plan was to get a 2d GF1 with another 14-45 and convert it to IR, leaving the 14-45 on it fulltime.

    I think Cindy may be right---skimping to save $200---probably better to have the same body/interface.... and I can use the EVF on it too as Terry suggests...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Nice photo, Hudson.

    Is there any reason the more expensive E-PL1 (plus EVF) is better than the G1 in terms of image quality or is it purely a matter of camera fetish?
    yehh, thanks, Vivek... My G1's shutter at the higher speeds was not evenly illuminating the sensor, light fall of on the right edge (an evolving problem)... on an old school M, a simple cla would have solve t' problem.

    The raw files are different... my limited intuitive take is that the oLy is longer tonally? best with out any noise reduction, and minimal to no sharpening required.* The OLy defalt jpegs are in La La land. I wanted to try something different...while waiting for the G2...and Hoping that some manufacturer will make real tools. ones that clean fly poop off the sensor and float when your horse decides to take a swim...


    * I should do some real tests...but then again... the EPL-1 wif a Switar Macro is so cute, a chic magnet, I was feeling neglected with the G1.







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    Yehh... Vivek... did an unscientific, ugly test, but very interesting... completely boring, you have to be a neurotic pixel peeper to see the difference.
    Last edited by Y.B.Hudson III; 26th March 2010 at 02:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Decisions, decisions....

    I already have a GF1 (20mm, 14-45, EVF) that I love; the plan was to get a 2d GF1 with another 14-45 and convert it to IR, leaving the 14-45 on it fulltime.

    I think Cindy may be right---skimping to save $200---probably better to have the same body/interface.... and I can use the EVF on it too as Terry suggests...
    Really, what is $200 at this point!
    Also, I'm finding I never take the 7-14mm off of my G1 IR. It is so much more interesting than 14-45. YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    Really, what is $200 at this point!
    Also, I'm finding I never take the 7-14mm off of my G1 IR. It is so much more interesting than 14-45. YMMV
    Likewise, the 7-14mm lens pretty much stays on my GF1, 24/7. YMMV +1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    Really, what is $200 at this point!
    Also, I'm finding I never take the 7-14mm off of my G1 IR. It is so much more interesting than 14-45. YMMV
    Instigator!

    I've been avoiding looking at that 7-14mm thread....

    Geez! This forum is getting just like the Medium Format Forum Spending Support Group....just on a smaller scale!

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    http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/01/o...-e-pl1-review/

    "sometimes pulling off a better shot indoors than we can coax out of our relatively complicated D90"

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    looks great! The photo, and the EPL1 blue!
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    Hi All, i need help choosing between the E-P2 and E-PL1. I'm in a dilemma.
    truth to be told I'm a novice in photography. I did take BASIC fundamentals in a photography module at school, played with an SLR for a while, so I have basic knowledge about shutter, aperture, ISO and a few other basic in-cam stuff. I'm trying to find one that is worth investing in, even though an entry level DSLR is cheaper but I'll rather pay more for something less burden to carry around.

    One of the drawbacks of the E-P2 for me is the lack of flash. I seldom turn on the flash on my PnS camera so I'm not sure if flash is a must on a micro four thirds cam/SLR, or is it just a great addition to have like the E-PL1??
    The downside for the E-PL1 for me is the build less solid, and the lesser range of shutter speed. at 1/2000 max, does it restrict a lot of stuff?

    I hope i don't come off as ambitious trying to buy a prosumer cam like the E-P2 where an E-PL1 might be more suitable for an amateur like me. I'm just hoping to find one that can learn more, and purchase one that can build on for a very long while.

    Thank you for your kind advise.

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    Re: E-PL1

    I would probably opt for the E-PL1. The flash can come in very handy. There are some good new features on the E-PL1. You can decide if you want the EVF or not. I would rather save some money for lenses. The 1/2000 would be a problem in bright sun shooting with a wide aperture. What do you think the bulk of your shooting will be?

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    teho, I don't know where you are. Here in the Netherlands, Olympus have a 30 day money back offer on the EPL1.

    If I am not shooting with a Panasonic G1 (more versatile and cheaper camera), I would have been tempted or might have bought a Sony TX7 (really cute).

    EPL1 is cute as well but not cute enough to spend 450 Euros (plus extra for an unavailable EVF).

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    yehh... 2,000/sec. is a mute question, with out the (unavailable) EVF I can't see anything in bright light.*

    but that said, the blue looks really cute with a switar macro 26mm and a pink wrist strap.

    * an...heLLo, digital cameras are not investments... "swine futures" are a better bet... rebounding after last years flu scare...
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    First off, thank you all for your helpful input (:

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I would probably opt for the E-PL1. The flash can come in very handy. There are some good new features on the E-PL1. You can decide if you want the EVF or not. I would rather save some money for lenses. The 1/2000 would be a problem in bright sun shooting with a wide aperture. What do you think the bulk of your shooting will be?
    I've looked up, the smallest aperture for the lens that comes with the E-PL1 is only at f5.6. If i'm getting the E-PL1, is it highly advisable to buy E-PL1 body with the GF1 lenses?
    I'll be traveling quite a bit so it'll be scenery and some that involves people (*gulps* moving objects) heard AF speed on E-PL1 haven improve that much

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    teho, I don't know where you are. Here in the Netherlands, Olympus have a 30 day money back offer on the EPL1.

    If I am not shooting with a Panasonic G1 (more versatile and cheaper camera), I would have been tempted or might have bought a Sony TX7 (really cute).

    EPL1 is cute as well but not cute enough to spend 450 Euros (plus extra for an unavailable EVF).
    sadly here in asia, i never heard of this kind of benefits. The G1 is a very good cam from what i've seen of the photos people share. but i'm a little greedy, prefer a cam that offers HD video capability.

    Quote Originally Posted by Y.B.Hudson III View Post
    yehh... 2,000/sec. is a mute question, with out the (unavailable) EVF I can't see anything in bright light.*

    but that said, the blue looks really cute with a switar macro 26mm and a pink wrist strap.

    * an...heLLo, digital cameras are not investments... "swine futures" are a better bet... rebounding after last years flu scare...
    haha you're funny. maybe not for you as an investment, but for tight budget poor student like me, i can only splurge once on a camera body and build from there (lens, filter...etc) the next time i can spend like that will be like errrr...5 years from now when i grad, start work and payoff school fees debt.

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