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    5D MkII as second body?

    So I'm having some weird thoughts about maybe getting a 5D MkII as a second body to my GH1/GH2 to shoot wide angle cityscape/landscape, and perhaps also to do macro using the MP-E 65 lens. I kinda figured there may be enough people switching the other way to m4/3 cameras that prices may drop at some point later this year, and I'll be able to pick up a good system with a few lenses for a few grand. Am I crazy?
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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    Dragos

    as you may recall I'm looking at a 5D Mk1 as my "second body". I'm in a packup phase here in Finland to return to Oz otherwise it would already be in my hands (why pay taxes and shipping then have to add that to the pile going back to Australia).

    My target for the camera is 21, 24 and 50mm, with the G1 doing better at everything else including macro in my view.

    The live view on the 5D MkII would be nice for critical focusing (over the Mk1) but its not an issue for me.

    I look daily at a 5x7 sized print on my desktop taken with the Oly 9-18 of something close, and even at that magnification I hate the bokeh of the things in the distance. I also happen to love the shallow DoF I get on a 50mm f1.8 which there is nothing to compare it to in the 4/3 (except the Leica Panasonic 25 f1.4 which costs as much as a 5D body and performs about as well as a Takumar f2 at f2.8 (something which you can get for 50 bucks)

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    Guess I'm not alone then =). The other factor in my thinking is that I was planning on trying out some LF view camera photos (4x5) for landscape/cityscape, but now I'm thinking that by the time I add up all the processing time and expense for LF film, I might as well get something close to that IQ using a 'cheap' 5D MkII for not a whole lot more cash (I realize the IQ of the LF film would be better). Likewise I'd be using my GHx for almost everything else (I still think I'll end up getting a compact m4/3 body to have something I can always carry with me). I agree that I'm doing great macro work on the GH, but at least having the big Canon opens up the potential of using that MP lens at some point.

    In any event, I can always test out the waters by renting first, or borrowing it from a fellow photog in the area.
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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    Hi

    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    Guess I'm not alone then =).
    nope, but as the topic of this forum is 4/3 cameras I seldom drag this point out.


    The other factor in my thinking is that I was planning on trying out some LF view camera photos (4x5) for landscape/cityscape, but now I'm thinking that by the time I add up all the processing time and expense for LF film, I might as well get something close to that IQ using a 'cheap' 5D MkII
    I might say that I don't use 4x5 for the IQ I use it for other reasons. When I bought it (long ago) there was of course nothing like it around, now the 5DMkII will give you images that unless you are intending to print to wider than 2 meters will be quite good enough.

    What LF gives you is control and tonality that to approach with the digital systems you will need far far more money down. If you were to have a TS-E 45 and a TS-E 24 in your mix then you'd be looking well over $4000, and that is what you would need to approach the same sort of control as you get with 4x5.

    however even with that setup I doubt you'd have enough control to get images such as this:



    with focus close to the camera, middle snow blurred behind the grasses and then infinty back in focus. Although at f3.5 you might go close.

    Like digital, with sheets I can go out with just two or three images in mind and take that without needing to burn more than that "to use up the roll"

    but as an ex-TS-E Canon series owner I can say you'll gain heaps in convenience with that system and open yourself up to stitching and HDR. You can even add a EOS film body for next to nothing to get the look that only black and white negative can give, but you just won't get the tonal range from 35mm you can from 4x5 sheets.

    for colour work I would largely prefer the 5D, as scanning in colour is a time consuming business.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pellicle View Post
    nope, but as the topic of this forum is 4/3 cameras I seldom drag this point out.
    At the core, this is a discussion about augmenting some of the limitations of the m4/3 format, so I felt it appropriate for this forum.

    Thank you for your insights into your experiences with FF and LF work. Those capabilities are exactly why I'm considering at least experimenting with the larger formats. I want to experience as many aspects of photography so I can fully appreciate this craft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    At the core, this is a discussion about augmenting some of the limitations of the m4/3 format, so I felt it appropriate for this forum.
    Heresy Warning

    I use a D700 as a first body. For landscape work my manual Nikkors on the D700 serve me better. It's the old "horses for courses" discussion as usual. The G1 is with me almost all the time though and that's where its versatility lies. I find there's one thing it's perfect for like no other camera can be and that's with ND filters for long exposures; as the EVF gains up to compensate - something the viewfinder on a standard DSLR won't do of course.

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    No more DSLRs for me (perhaps the Pentax 645 40mp cam may make an exception). I am trying to get rid of my Nikon stuff.

    I look forward to future mirrorless cams (might pick up a NX10 if it shows up).

    Especially for shooting in UV and IR, liveview (real liveview as in Panasonic G1 and the like) and EVF are a game changer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pellicle View Post
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    My target for the camera is 21, 24 and 50mm, with the G1 doing better at everything else including macro in my view...
    I can't agree with this statement! I use a 5DII as my main camera and a G1 as a secondary carry-anywhere P&S. There are lots of things the Canon is better at including image quality, big flash setups, and being taken seriously when photographing large groups such as weddings etc.! It's also better at high ISO, does full-HD video (which the G1 doesn't do of course although I realise the GF-1 and GH-1 do), long-lens telephoto and a whole range of other things.

    It's not really a like-for-like comparison is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowy View Post
    I can't agree with this statement!
    I see ... so you think that in my view I really believe something else?

    or did you fail to notice it was not an absolute but "in my view"

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    I have had 5D for two years and got a G1 with 14-45 and 20/1.7 in December 2009. I thought G1 was great, but I'm so totally in love with 5D, its smooth gorgeous files and short DoF that I always ended up bringing that camera everywhere. I have now sold my ”4/3 gear and will get a P&S for those extremely rare occasions when I can't bring 5D (i.e. skiing).

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    Helena

    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    I have now sold my ”4/3 gear and will get a P&S for those extremely rare occasions when I can't bring 5D (i.e. skiing).
    when you go skiing, do you mean cross country or down hill?

    do you use a pulk?

    Even at -20C Finland can be bad for skiing cross country, the lake ice cracks and water seeps up to form layers between the snow and the ice

    http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2010/02/bad-skiing.html

    that day back in Feb was nice and warm at -5 but it happened again on another day ...

    from another trip

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    .. its smooth gorgeous files and short DoF that I always ended up bringing that camera everywhere.
    Perils of the "system lenses" (from Pana and Oly). :sleep006:

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    Well, one thing's for sure. I'll find out how well I like my GH1 for landscape work in a few weeks when I head out to Lake Tahoe for a few days. I know it won't be a perfect comparison because I don't have anything wider than 14mm, but it'll have to do. I'll probably end up trying some pano stiching using bracketed exposures - maybe I can pull off my first successful HDR out of it as well.
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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    photoSmart42 wrote:
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    wide angle cityscape/landscape,
    macro using the MP-E 65 lens
    Am I crazy?
    Hi Dragos,

    There is too little information in your post for a safe diagnosis so I'll just assume you aren't crazy.

    The reasons for investing in a 5DMkII aren't really good. There must be something else, no?

    I have been switching back and forth (APS-C, Olympus 4/3 -> 5D -> G1 -> 5DMkII -> G1). The last switch wasn't a switch really. I kept the G1 and bought a 5DMkII planning to use them both where the 5DMkII was aimed for a documentary project. In reality I used the 5DMkII for everything including some traveling. After having thought about it, very carefully this time, I sold the 5DMkII and now I use one system only.

    What I miss from the 5DMkII is the lower noise, the robust raw files being able to take some PP, the details for large prints and the DOF control. Nothing else. Makros and cityscapes are easily done with the ”4/3 system, and for the most of the time probably better done as well.

    However, if you have found you need (and don't have the time or the motif for the workarounds) lower noise, more robust raw files or the increased DOF control there is no other way to go but getting yourself a bigger sensor.
    Lol, the grass is always greener somewhere else.... When I used the 5DMkII I missed the G1 viewfinder and screen. Now I miss other things.... What I really would like to have is a FF LIVE camera.

    I have settled for the workarounds. Sometimes I take several images and stitch them together, sometimes I have to wait for better light. Some images I take could have been better with the bigger camera. On the other hand I have a complete system in my satchel bag. I get images that wouldn't have been that easy to take with the 5D and I don't worry a lot about my equipment as it can be replaced without shelling out a fortune once again.

    If you want opinions you can have mine: save yourself time and money and get a Lumix G 7-14 zoom and then locate an Olympus Zuiko 20/2 Macro lens for those extreme macros (4:1 - 13:1 magnifying). That is unless your desire for the 5DMkII isn't an irrational one - then you should get one and try it out.

    Good luck with your decision!

    /Jonas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    The reasons for investing in a 5DMkII aren't really good. There must be something else, no?

    Makros and cityscapes are easily done with the ”4/3 system, and for the most of the time probably better done as well.

    Lol, the grass is always greener somewhere else.... When I used the 5DMkII I missed the G1 viewfinder and screen.

    If you want opinions you can have mine: save yourself time and money and get a Lumix G 7-14 zoom and then locate an Olympus Zuiko 20/2 Macro lens for those extreme macros (4:1 - 13:1 magnifying). That is unless your desire for the 5DMkII isn't an irrational one - then you should get one and try it out.

    Good luck with your decision!

    /Jonas
    Thank you, Jonas. All valid points. I'm very happy with what I can do macro-wise with the GH1, so certainly that in itself is not a good reason to spend another $3000 on a second system. As for cityscapes, I've run into limitations from using the 14-140, but I agree that the answer isn't necessarily to get a second system, but to get the 7-14 lens like you said. I'm not all that concerned about noise since I limit my shoots to ISO800 with NR+2 turned on if I need to, so that's not a reason either. So, yes, running out of reasons to get a FF as a second body =).

    It's just been a creeping thought that perhaps I should find a way to experience FF digital to see what I'm missing. It's a case of "I don't know what I don't know" I think, but it's a certainty that I need to fully explore the capabilities of my GH1 first before I decide to plunk down real cash to get something else to augment it.

    All good feedback. Thank you!
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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    Quote Originally Posted by pellicle View Post
    Helena



    when you go skiing, do you mean cross country or down hill?

    do you use a pulk?

    Even at -20C Finland can be bad for skiing cross country, the lake ice cracks and water seeps up to form layers between the snow and the ice

    http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2010/02/bad-skiing.html

    that day back in Feb was nice and warm at -5 but it happened again on another day ...

    from another trip
    Wow, I wasn't aware that conditions can be that bad in Finland. I'm from Skellefteć in northern Sweden (coastal area), but currently live in Trondheim, Norway. In both places cross country skiing is very popular and I love it. I have never experience anything like that and foolishly assumed that Finland would be similar to Sweden. The problem here in Norway is that it's so hilly. Hill up and hill down, never ending... I tend to fall sometimes, which is why I'm reluctant to bring the 5D.

    Btw. this last week we have gotten at least 70cm of snow and more is coming. Spring seems to be far away...

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    Something just dawned on me: I can certainly get the FF experience by shooting, well, FF (i.e. 35mm). I can get an AE-1 Program and use it with my existing FD/FL lenses, and with some high-quality film and scans I can probably get something close to the 5D MkII IQ (with built-in DR and WB). It'll only cost be about $100 for the body in great condition, and not that much more for the film developing and scanning. I'm guessing a high quality film scan will produce something like a 24MP image. That, and it's a lot smaller than the 5D, so I can just throw it in my GH1 bag and take it on the trip.
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    Dragos,

    Go for the MkII! It doesn't have to make sense to anyone except you, and it doesn't even need to be a rational decision (speaking as one who recently purchased a.....MkII )

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    You could also do it with a nice used 5D. However, you still have to outfit it with lenses. I just sold off a number of lenses, including 2 Ls, but kept what I need (or want) for my style of shooting, but in the end, I will be shooting more with my m4/3rds I believe.

    As you say, you can do it with an AE-1 also (which I also own LOL--never could bring myself to sell it).

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    I have a 5DMK2 (and a 1DMK3) and it is a great camera. The resolution is amazing. However, if you go that way makes sure your have good glass to match. The body will really show any limitation in your lenses.

    FWIW, I shoot with the 5DMK2 first, use the 1DMK3 for sports, and carry the GF1/20 with me all the time for quick captures.

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    The problem here in Norway is that it's so hilly. Hill up and hill down, never ending... I tend to fall sometimes, which is why I'm reluctant to bring the 5D.
    hills ... ohh hills ... I love hills ... I dream of hills while I trudge along on the dead flat lakes ...

    do you have any idea how fast the bottom of skis attract snow after you've wet them?

    last time I had to chip my laces off my bc boots to get my feet out of my bindings.

    sigh

    no wonder the old guys here prefer the gum boots

    Btw. this last week we have gotten at least 70cm of snow and more is coming. Spring seems to be far away...
    you lucky lucky ....

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    My vote goes to old 5D. It can be had for very reasonable price and image quality is still top notch. I do also believe that FF EVIL camera will be coming pretty soon, so I can't justify paying big $$$ for 5DmkII (but I'm not a pro)

    I use 5D with MF lenses only.
    4/3 with 12-60mm and Lux 25mm (I believe there isn't many AF lenses in any system that can beat this combo)
    And m4/3 again mainly with MF lenses, plus 7-14 and 20mm.

    I love them all, but I think if I had to choose one system only, I'd go with m4/3, for its size/performance ratio, cine lens compatibility and EVF of ep-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    Well, one thing's for sure. I'll find out how well I like my GH1 for landscape work in a few weeks when I head out to Lake Tahoe for a few days. I know it won't be a perfect comparison because I don't have anything wider than 14mm, but it'll have to do. I'll probably end up trying some pano stiching using bracketed exposures - maybe I can pull off my first successful HDR out of it as well.
    While in Tahoe, why not consider renting a 5DII and one wide "L" for a few days? My guess is the 4/3 would quickly become your second body. I really enjoy the GF1 and 20 1.7, but my view is that if a photo is worth taking, the extra weight of FF is an acceptable tradeoff for better quality. For me there really is no comparison. Renting would help you resolve this for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    but my view is that if a photo is worth taking, the extra weight of FF is an acceptable tradeoff for better quality. For me there really is no comparison. Renting would help you resolve this for yourself.
    exactly one of the reasons my 4x5 outfit remains with me ... but its worth mentioning that I don't usually take it out every day, and ... well the old saying about the best camera being the one with you.

    perhaps I'm just not dedicated, but I can not tell you how many great scenes I've seen with either no camera with me (cos I got tired once in the week) or no film left in the holders ... or just plain no film in the holders and I didn't know till I got home.


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    I have never shot with 4 x 5, but even with my 5D and gear, I have found myself just plain tired at the end of the day (or even earlier) enough to just not even try one more shot. Granted, I'm well past middle age but can certainly still carry my gear, but there are times it just takes any pleasure away from the shooting experience--which, for me, is part of photography (other than when I was shooting commercial--but I didn't have to haul my gear then except in and out LOL).

    But--if you have the itch, I say try it. I love my 5D shots but I love my photography experience better with my m4/3rds. I have to say too, I'm not one that is ever happy with OOC shots, so I can deal usually pretty easily with the compromise of m4/3rds except for very shallow DOF, but even there, you can achieve a very nice compromise with the right lenses, setting up, etc.

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    John



    exactly one of the reasons my 4x5 outfit remains with me ... but its worth mentioning that I don't usually take it out every day, and ... well the old saying about the best camera being the one with you.

    perhaps I'm just not dedicated, but I can not tell you how many great scenes I've seen with either no camera with me (cos I got tired once in the week) or no film left in the holders ... or just plain no film in the holders and I didn't know till I got home.


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    What MFT is doing is to make those of us who have been sucked up the EOS route start noticing just how much heavier those 1d and 5d bodies have become. It not the bulk as, once a camera cannot fit into your pocket so has to be on a strap, the bulk is barely relevant. It is the weight on your shoulder that you notice.

    I've got an old twin lens Rollei that I had in the fifties and I'm sure it weighs less than my Canon 5d.

    MFT is clever in that it is filling the need of the DSLR brigade who value the ability to change lenses and who would never regard something like the Canon G11, small though it is, as a subsitute.

    And yes, like an earlier poster, I can well see EVIL coming for the FF brigade as there is so much more you can do with it compared with an optical viewfinder.

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    My cell phone camera (BB 9700) gets the most use because it is small and with me everywhere I go. I usually carry a backpack so the weight of the camera is not an issue.

    My E-620 takes good photos with the PL 25mm, but the 7D takes better photos and Canon has a selection of quality prime lenses. So, I would be happy to try a 5D as the dSLR I just don't know that it is that much better than my 7D. I probably wouldn't notice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pellicle View Post
    Helena

    hills ... ohh hills ... I love hills ... I dream of hills while I trudge along on the dead flat lakes ...

    do you have any idea how fast the bottom of skis attract snow after you've wet them?

    last time I had to chip my laces off my bc boots to get my feet out of my bindings.

    sigh

    no wonder the old guys here prefer the gum boots

    you lucky lucky ....

    Fortunately, I have only experienced wet skis once, but I never want to do it again. We were going down a slope and there was some water at the bottom. My fiancé yelled "don't...", but it was too late. Then I had to carry the skis to one of the cottages where you can get inside and have a snack, and wait there until the ice had melted.

    Back on topic (slightly): Hope there will continue to be cameras with optical viewfinders even in future. I thought that G1's EVF was nice and bright, but really tiring for the eye. It was something like looking at an movie on a computer screen instead of at the reality through a clear window. But I guess the EVFs will continue to be improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    What MFT is doing is to make those of us who have been sucked up the EOS route start noticing just how much heavier those 1d and 5d bodies have become. It not the bulk as, once a camera cannot fit into your pocket so has to be on a strap, the bulk is barely relevant. It is the weight on your shoulder that you notice.

    I've got an old twin lens Rollei that I had in the fifties and I'm sure it weighs less than my Canon 5d.
    I happen to be firmly in that camp, I wrote my complaint down on my blog a while ago.

    Essentially as one who has been using 35mm for many years (my first one when I was 15 was a viewfinder only type). I considered the first of the DSLR's to be disappointing (I was living in Tokyo when the D30 was released) and thought that any serious camera owner would be disappointed by the heavy mass small sensor and pathetive view finder. Actually much of what was written at that time reflected just that sentiment.

    Its interesting that the G1 has got DSLR to the same point (more or less) as my 1980's OM10 camera just now.

    G1


    OM 10


    even though its sensor is about 1/4 the area (half either dimension) of the 35mm camera. Comparing to a film camera with an equal sensor size:



    the micro 4/3 ceases to really look compact.

    Certainly there is little doubt that a sensor is flatter and thus allow more accurate capture from the lenses than film can, but you know, there is only so much that lack of area can make up.

    In fact I can compare favourably my 35mm film scans with the capture from my G1, and since the systems really are the same size it just goes to show how fat the 5DMkII really is


    There is no doubt that the 5DMkII is an incredible professional tool. When toting along all the goods and shackles that one does in professional work (stands, lighting, lenses, cases) it won't matter a rats arse that its big, but for people who hike their gear around it sort of does.

    So if people can design all the requirements of an MP3 player which fits into something smaller than a matchbox (and this player was bought in 2001)


    perhaps they could also fit the electronics of a camera like one of the snuggle tiny compact casio Exilim cameras

    with a sensor the size of the G1 into a package the size of the Pentax 110

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    Re: 5D MkII as second body?

    Quote Originally Posted by pellicle View Post
    I see ... so you think that in my view I really believe something else?

    or did you fail to notice it was not an absolute but "in my view"

    ?
    I simply meant *I* don't agree that the G1 was better at everything else - maybe I should have added "in my view"! I wasn't trying to tell you what you believe...


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    As a quick update, I decided to get a 35mm Canon FTb(n) as my FF companion to the GH1. With high-quality scans and good film I should be able to squeeze nearly 5DII performance from my film, and it was only $50. I posted some initial test shots in the Analog Cameras forum.

    For sure one thing that's clear is that using film is forcing me to think about my photos a LOT more, which should also improve my digital experience as well. Knowing that I only have a few rolls of film on me is really making me think about composition, lighting, etc. It took me over 2 hours to shoot the 24 frames of test film the other day when I was checking to see how well my metering works. I'm very happy! Testing it for real in Tahoe next week.
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    Re: 5D MkII performance

    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    With high-quality scans and good film I should be able to squeeze nearly 5DII performance from my film, ...
    Good to see an optimist from time to time
    I wonder how much each "high-quality scan" will cost? Even then the "nearly" will still be a stretch I think.
    However, I still shoot a roll from time to time with my trusty F3 but I realize that even the G1 can outperform anything I get from 35mm film. Why do I do it? It's not for the "performance" it's for the feeling one gets from a film image versus a digital one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m3photo View Post
    Good to see an optimist from time to time
    I wonder how much each "high-quality scan" will cost? Even then the "nearly" will still be a stretch I think.
    However, I still shoot a roll from time to time with my trusty F3 but I realize that even the G1 can outperform anything I get from 35mm film. Why do I do it? It's not for the "performance" it's for the feeling one gets from a film image versus a digital one.
    I'm nearly always an optimist . I can get 17MP scans for about $12 per roll on top of the normal developing charges, so call it $17 per roll. That means I can shoot about 130 rolls (4500+ photos) for the price of a 5DII body, and frankly it'll take me forever to shoot that much film on a backup camera. 17MP is not as detailed as the 24MP 5DII, but the DR is likely better and I do get the film 'feel' as a bonus.

    I do agree that for most everything I want to do, my GH1 will fit nicely. But for the money, scanned film is a much better proposition for me over buying a 5DII+lenses just to get the FF experience. Even if I were to rent the 5DII for a week I'd still come out ahead using the film camera. Still, I may buy a 5DII if I happen to have an extra $3000 laying around the house
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    Re: 5D MkII performance

    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    Still, I may buy a 5DII if I happen to have an extra $3000 laying around the house
    I see what you mean, $17 per roll and I'd be doing the same but in my neck of the woods it's cheaper to reshoot them on a digital camera.
    I happened to have an extra (nice bank manager) and went for a D700 to complement my manual Nikkor lenses and have been well pleased with the acquisition.

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