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    Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Just announced

    I'm kinda asking myself why?

    http://www.dpreview.com/

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    It's been in their lens roadmap for quite a while. With you, I'm not completely sure of the target.

    I've seen some really interesting video work with a fisheye. This lens might be targeted towards the new video camera that will use m4/3 lenses.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Seriously expensive, its a no from me.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Love to have one of those along with the rumored 14mm lens but for half the suggested price.

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    I see everyone (myself included) is bothered about the price. I am not sure about if I really should be complaining about that (ie pricing) or not.

    I like the rear gel filter holder (similar to the Nikon 10.5 fisheye which is a superb piece of glass). This allows for IR shooting with hacked cams.
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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Definite no for me. I just sold my EF 15 f/2.8 FE for my 5D because I almost never shot with it any longer. I have the Lensbaby FE for a fun fisheye-ish lens when the mood strikes. Not that I don't think there are some great FE shots out there but I found it a very niche lens for me. Actually I bought it a good while ago to get wider in APS-c body with defishing before wider lens were available so guess I never was that interested in it for FE only.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Quote Originally Posted by richie15 View Post
    Seriously expensive, its a no from me.
    Same here. Saving my pennies for the 14/2.5. The 7-14 is plenty wide for me and I'm not a fish kinda guy.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Looks cute, but they must be kidding with an $800 price tag. I think you're right, Terry; this probably will mostly appeal to those who want it for video.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    I have shot with the nikon 10.5mm fisheye and really enjoyed it. There are some fascinating things you can do with it. But I have to agree, the price is silly.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Some people love to shoot with fish-eye lenses.

    $800 for a pro-grade performing fish-eye lens isn't out of the ballpark. Particularly when it's the smallest/lightest lens in the category you can buy, can take filters, etc etc.

    Whinging and whining about prices is so droll. ]'-)

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    Running around policing the forums for any naysayers, of your beloved camera brand, seems rather droll to me.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Quote Originally Posted by clay stewart View Post
    Running around policing the forums for any naysayers, of your beloved camera brand, seems rather droll to me.
    LOL ! Who's doing any policing? I have no authority to police anything here. Nor is Panasonic a "beloved camera brand", nor do I have any interest whatever in buying another fish-eye lens (had several, never used them much, have another nice one in the drawer anyway).

    I'm just offering my opinion, like anyone else might. Are you so sensitive about this sacred blathering about price that you have to make a thing of it?

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    It would be nice if they would actually ship the stuff they announced months ago. Waiting on the G2. Might pick up a G1 if they take much longer. B&H says that they looking for delivery in June.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Amazon has them in stock. B & H won't be any less and Amazon is easy to deal with for returns.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Terry noted that on the G2 thread, and I ordered one from Amazon. They just came available this week.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Some people love to shoot with fish-eye lenses.

    $800 for a pro-grade performing fish-eye lens isn't out of the ballpark. Particularly when it's the smallest/lightest lens in the category you can buy, can take filters, etc etc.

    Whinging and whining about prices is so droll. ]'-)
    I suppose you might be correct. I was just comparing it to the Nikkor mentally which can be had for less ($655 at BH for example). Whether the Panny fish holds up the Nikkor or not, who knows; although I suspect that there are good odds it will be a quality lens like the 7-14.

    And for the record, I love to shoot with a fish eye ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post
    I suppose you might be correct. I was just comparing it to the Nikkor mentally which can be had for less ($655 at BH for example). Whether the Panny fish holds up the Nikkor or not, who knows; although I suspect that there are good odds it will be a quality lens like the 7-14.

    And for the record, I love to shoot with a fish eye ...

    Doug
    Doug,

    The $655 price for the AF DX Fisheye-NIKKOR 10.5mm f/2.8G ED is a gray import street price. The US distributor price, at street discount offered by B&H, is $698. Nikon USA lists the MSRP as $775. See
    http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni....page?pid=2148

    The price quoted for the Panasonic on DPReview is an MSRP at $799, about $24 more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Doug,

    The $655 price for the AF DX Fisheye-NIKKOR 10.5mm f/2.8G ED is a gray import street price. The US distributor price, at street discount offered by B&H, is $698. Nikon USA lists the MSRP as $775. See
    http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Ni....page?pid=2148

    The price quoted for the Panasonic on DPReview is an MSRP at $799, about $24 more.
    Again, point taken, although you really should compare the $698 to the Panny MSRP as that is what you can buy the Panny for, not for an equivalent discount. And buying grey import for a prime lens like that is more than find IMO which is why I listed that price. I wouldn't want to buy grey market for a more expensive lens because the downside becomes too great if it does fail.

    Not really arguing here; it still is more than I would be willing to pay for a fun, mostly one trick pony even though there is a lot more to shooting with a fish eye than people often realize. To be fair, I never bought the Nikkor either (just borrowed it as needed). I had the chance to get a new one at $450 and like a nut case, passed it up.

    It's all about tradeoffs as always, and that $800 nets another body and an IR conversion or the 45mm, or...

    It just seems to me they have missed the target here. But I must assume they know the market for it better than I

    Doug

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Doug, You mention a few items and in the same breath the 45mm macro. Isn't that a specialty lens?

    The 8/3.5 with 0.1m close focus ability (1/5x magnification), to me, is more attractive than a fly by wire macro lens.

    I can find plenty of macro lenses (more useful manual focus variety) for the m4/3rds but not a good wide angle lens or a fisheye.

    Elsewhere, someone ran a poll and the overwhelming majority voted for a lower price.

    If that happens, that is good.

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Hmmm, for a quarter of the price I love my (manual) Samyang 8mm/3.5 .. suited for all my Canons and Lumixes.
    The remaining 3/4 money I'll spend for my next m4/3 GH2 :-)








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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post
    Again, point taken, although you really should compare the $698 to the Panny MSRP as that is what you can buy the Panny for, not for an equivalent discount. ...
    Well, I don't think you can buy the Panasonic lens at all yet ... It's only just been announced! ;-)

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    Hmmm, for a quarter of the price I love my (manual) Samyang 8mm/3.5 .. suited for all my Canons and Lumixes.
    The remaining 3/4 money I'll spend for my next m4/3 GH2 :-)
    Hot, I saved even more by not buying the Sony P&S with the EXMOR-R sensor (I forgot what it is called).

    BTW, how come the Samyang renders the scene flat in the pics you show while it is called a fisheye?

    (I guess the adapter cost a bit extra?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Doug, You mention a few items and in the same breath the 45mm macro. Isn't that a specialty lens?

    The 8/3.5 with 0.1m close focus ability (1/5x magnification), to me, is more attractive than a fly by wire macro lens.

    I can find plenty of macro lenses (more useful manual focus variety) for the m4/3rds but not a good wide angle lens or a fisheye.

    Elsewhere, someone ran a poll and the overwhelming majority voted for a lower price.

    If that happens, that is good.
    Hmm, perhaps, though in my defense, I view the combo of macro with portrait length shooting to be far less specialty than a fish eye. For me, the 45 would be a prime in the range that I happen to really like to shoot with the added benefit of being a macro lens.

    I have yet to find a short tele prime that I have been satisfied with for m4/3, and I have been intrigued by the 45 as a possibility.

    The close focus of the fish eye is a draw. I haven't checked how close the 7-14 close focus is.

    I also have other combos that give me the close focus in the focal lengths I desire.

    And of course, I am sure we are all surprised a poll came out in favor of a reduced price ...

    As always, it is individual priorities (which is what you are saying after all )

    I suspect what the real meaning of that poll is, "Rats, if it was a couple hundred fewer, I'd buy it, and I'd really enjoy it"

    Doug

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    Re: Panasonic Lumix G Fisheye 8mm F3.5

    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post

    I have yet to find a short tele prime that I have been satisfied with for m4/3,..
    Doug,

    From my own use:

    Olympus Pen F 42/1.2, pen F 40/1.4, Fujinon-TV 50/1.4, a bunch of Leica lenses in this FL...endless list. I would pick any one of them for portrait use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Doug,

    From my own use:

    Olympus Pen F 42/1.2, pen F 40/1.4, Fujinon-TV 50/1.4, a bunch of Leica lenses in this FL...endless list. I would pick any one of them for portrait use.
    Yah, but I haven't secured one of the Pen's yet, and the Leica's are $$$. Sure wouldn't mind one of the Pen's.

    Plus it looks like I am saving for a G2 .

    Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    It's been in their lens roadmap for quite a while. With you, I'm not completely sure of the target.
    Fisheye images are used by VR Photographers. I specialize primarily in VR Photography and this is exactly the lens I need to do my work

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