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    The FourThirds photo blog thread

    On GetDPI, there seem to be threads which are "image" threads, containing tons of images one after another, and there seem to be "discussion" threads which contain lots of chit chat, technical stuff, etc.

    I don't know whether anyone else is interested, but I maintain a photo blog where I feature a photo usually with some surrounding context or story to enhance its appreciation. I thought it might be cool to start a new kind of thread where I and others doing photo blogs could post their current featured photo along with a link to the photo blog post. That way those who just wish to see photos could get that right here on the spot, but those who enjoy reading and commenting on photo blogs could use this as a spring board to enjoy other's photo blog work.

    A simple idea to make this work effectively:

    - post ONE photo per message embedded here with technical info, with the subject set to reflect any title the photo blog post might have.

    - in the post, add a link to that entry on the photo blog.

    I hope others will find this idea worthwhile. I enjoy browsing others blogs but simply cannot subscribe to all of the great photo blogs I happen across and keep up. This will give us a way to find others' work as time and interest allows and motivates.

    My first photo blog post will be a response to this one. :-)

    Your comments will be appreciated!

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    ... Broken Leaf ...


    Panasonic G1 + Konica 40mm f/1.8
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    comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. :-)

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread



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    Ali was showing me his favorite chicken, a Polish rooster. This is the reason that I need a small camera that I take everywhere!

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    I think its a good idea.

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by clark666 View Post
    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4689324275_5416cab1ca_b.jpg

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    Ali was showing me his favorite chicken, a Polish rooster. This is the reason that I need a small camera that I take everywhere!
    It's a nice photo, but is it featured on a photo blog? and what's the photo blog link?

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by woodmancy View Post
    I think its a good idea.

    Keith
    +1 Yes, and excellent idea!

    I do not have a blog of my own but would love to see the work of others on this site.

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    It's a nice photo, but is it featured on a photo blog? and what's the photo blog link?
    You may always annotate your images with text as you wish provided that it is tasteful, non fattening, non political, etc.
    I would caution that links to blogs that violate forum rules might very well cause punishment as if the material had been posted here.
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    Oh, I didn't understand that I need to have a blog too. I will think about it. the easiest thing to do is to annotate my flickr photos and create a blog that way.

    I wish I carried my E-620 everywhere so that my photos were 4/3s too. I need a 4/3s cell phone!

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    You may always annotate your images with text as you wish provided that it is tasteful, non fattening, non political, etc.
    I would caution that links to blogs that violate forum rules might very well cause punishment as if the material had been posted here.
    For your watchful moderators
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    I can't imagine what GetDPI forum rule posting a link to a blog along with a photo and its technical information might break. I've read everything that Jack and Guy have posted on guidelines for GetDPI use, and I've seen hundreds if not thousands of blog and other links posted to this forum.

    The whole point of this thread, Bob, is to allow people who do a photo blog a place on GetDPI where they can let people who might not otherwise be aware of the blog see the photos and, at their discretion, enjoy the blog. Nothing more and nothing less. A subject with the title of the blog post, an embedded photograph, and a blog link should be in every post that isn't a response to someone else's blog link post.

    If that somehow transgresses one of Jack or Guy's rules, well, my apologies: moderators, please remove the whole thread.

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by clark666 View Post
    Oh, I didn't understand that I need to have a blog too. I will think about it. the easiest thing to do is to annotate my flickr photos and create a blog that way.
    Go for it! :-)

    I wish I carried my E-620 everywhere so that my photos were 4/3s too. I need a 4/3s cell phone!
    Look out or someone will start making a GF1 or E-PL1 with a compact lens look mighty attractive ... ];-)

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    I'm surprised there is so little interest so far, but perhaps it's just because of the weekend. I hope to put up another blog post tomorrow so I'll add that here and hope others follow.

    Otherwise, eh? nothing ventured, nothing gained. ;-)

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Why does this need its' own thread Godfrey? you have your photo blog in your signature, and can post in any of the image threads with your link beneath your image?

    Not trying to pour cold water on your initiative - I just think the image threads are more inclusive and one place to see a wide range of users' images.

    Cheers

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    The notion is to allow people to show their photos along with invite people to visit their blogs in a dedicated way, Brian. Kind of a "GetDPI.com blog notification" thread. Just because my blog address is in my signature doesn't mean that people immediately check to see if there's anything new there on a regular basis, subscribe or sign up for the RSS feed. I also post lots of photos that never make it into a blog post.

    Personally, I find the photo threads unwieldy here. They take forever to download, the viewing layout is crummy and has limited options, and since all the photos are different sizes and shapes it becomes, to me, a visual mess. I can't spend the time to try to keep up with them past a certain point, it's just too difficult and degraded a viewing experience. If the GetDPI software had the notion of a gallery layout which allowed usable viewing/navigation for large numbers of photographs, it would be a much better experience and present the work much more effectively. (I don't know about anyone else, but I am very sensitive to how photographs are presented as it affects the viewers' experience of the photograph. I don't put a lot of work into careful framing, exposure, rendering, articulating my intents, etc, to be casual about how the work is presented: just throwing a stack of prints on the table isn't much of a viewing experience to me.)

    The notion of this thread idea was to give folks the opportunity to say, effectively, "I have posted something new to my blog, this is it, and if you'd like to see the additional value I've posted with it on the blog here is the address."

    But if no one's interested in that, well, I'm not going to sweat it. It was an idea that I thought might resonate with some people to foster more sharing of their blogging efforts. If it doesn't, well "nothing ventured, nothing gained."

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post

    Personally, I find the photo threads unwieldy here. They take forever to download, the viewing layout is crummy and has limited options, and since all the photos are different sizes and shapes it becomes, to me, a visual mess.
    Personally, I take offense to this comment. The load problem is due to whatever server you use to store your images having too small a pipe -- our GetDPI server has a huge pipe. View layout is simple if you choose a unified size and format for your images AND use the "Insert Image" icon to post it. If you use the simple "attachment" option, then all you get are thumbnail links to an uploaded file, so while it's fast, the view sucks --- which is why we do NOT recommend using it but left it in for folks who wanted a simple way to load a single image. Several folks appreciate it and continue to use it for simplicity, so it is what it is, but it is the ARTIST's choice, not ours...

    At the end of the day *IF* you use the GetDPI image gallery which is FREE, then images will load lightening fast, be sized to three sizes with the default at 1000 pixels unless your original is smaller than that (the other two sizes are a thumb and an original size as uploaded), and display quite nicely in our forum body if you use our "insert image" icon method and if further desired, the centering tag center and /center in the "[ ]" brackets..

    Sorry, but I take offense when people "assume" it is our end that's broken when we've gone to extreme measures to deliver a really fast, easy to use PHOTO site. I do agree the forum album software could have a better UI, but all the info on how to use it is there and it works very well once you get the hang of it. There is an album update in the works which we will load when it's out of beta.

    Finally, I understand the desire to drive folks to your own photo blog, but the bottom line is if it's good, they should find it and use it anyway without the need to drive traffic to it from a dedicated forum thread. In this, I agree that a signature link should suffice, but I'll leave it to the group of "bloggers" here to decide for themselves...
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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    I love this forum, Jack. It introduced me to a new kind of photography and brought the fun back into it. My DSLR's go on to ebay in the autumn when I have cracked tethering.

    What I would love to discourage is the habit of cutting and pasting a whole image from an earlier message simply to say 'Well done'. We have seen the image once. Why waste bandwidth repeating it.

    I can't see how you stop it, Jack, but it is so boring and wasteful.

    Well done for everything else.

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    There's something mildly annoying about the premise of this thread. Trolling for viewers to your own blog while at the same time bitching about the image posting/viewing experience here on this free forum seems pretty cheesy.

    I recognize and respect those members who post here and who also have a blog. Some of them even have something worthwhile to say on their blogs. But this is a forum, and a free one. I don't come here to find links to somewhere else. And yes, I have been one to suggest (in various threads) that maybe if we all replied to say "well done" and stripped the image out to do so, the images would have that much more stature and make the threads faster. But that's a niggling little thing and ultimately, I feel I get so much out of the discussions and image posts, it easily compensates for any inconvenience.

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    From Post # 1 of the Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread dated 5 December 2008.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Well since you have a new forum , I thought it deserved a dedicated 4/3rds image thread. Post like crazy, we love images.
    Since that time there have been 3320 posts . . . . .

    . . . . . appears to be working and people are enjoying the thread.

    From Post # 1 of the Photographing your Bokeh dated 7 September 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by woodmancy View Post
    Hi everyone:

    I've got pictures in a couple of threads to show this and have got some good response - so I've started this thread where similar images can be posted.

    .....

    Keith
    [/IMG]
    Since that time there have been 2045 posts . . . . .

    . . . . . appears to be working and people are enjoying the thread.


    Godfrey, I like your idea and see no reason not continue this thread or perhaps a new one without the running commentary so folks can enjoy the photos and review the blogs when there is interest.


    Joined GetDPI in April and I am strictly an amateur or you might say an enthusiast hobbyist who is enjoying the micro 4/3 experience. I enjoy this website and the freedom of expression that people have with the various threads.


    Hopefully there is room for everyone without so many rules so that the moderators/administrators are to busy policing activity and not enjoying their individual pursuits. ( . . . . . when that happens usually forums disappear)

    Anyway looking forward to more posts and pictures from those who have their own blogs and want to keep the rest of us in the loop!

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Hi Tony,

    I see your point, but repeating an image in the same thread uses no more bandwidth... your web browser should cache (keep a copy of the downloaded) image from the first load. I sometimes will quote an image from further up the thread when it's not obvious to which image I am referring.

    Jack, I love the 'fun with...' image threads - often review the Leica threads to see what I'm missing!

    Cheers

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Well my input is very simple here I LOVE the image threads and the more images the better. This is ABOUT photography and GetDPI will not change from the image threads as long as I am part owner it is what makes this place and the people that post there images.

    I'm all for the signature links and that is always been the policy around here and for commercial vendors as well. If folks are interested they will click on the signatures i do it all the time.

    GetDPI is what it is and I like it this way. This is a community all i see these blogs do is break apart a family in a million directions.
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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Hi Tony,

    I see your point, but repeating an image in the same thread uses no more bandwidth... your web browser should cache (keep a copy of the downloaded) image from the first load. I sometimes will quote an image from further up the thread when it's not obvious to which image I am referring.

    Jack, I love the 'fun with...' image threads - often review the Leica threads to see what I'm missing!

    Cheers

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    Just look at the stats on those fun threads, that's the real story.

    Every section that has a fun thread is the most popular thread. I think that say's something very positive about posting images.
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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Guy, Jack, everyone.
    I feel posting a thread like this is RUDE and an insult to the owners and even the members.
    Guy and Jack are most gracious to allow this conversation. I would not be so kind nor understanding.

    This is a great Photography Forum and it's working beautifully.
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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Just look at the stats on those fun threads, that's the real story.
    Absolutely - the current Leica thread has only been going for 4 weeks and has nearly 16,000 views the previous one had 330,000 Fun with 4/3 has nearly 135,000 Fun with MF images nearly 211,000. So many good images, so much fun.

    Still, I'm sure Godfrey's initial intent was good, and I'm not sure what harm it does for those with blogs to advertise their wares?

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Streetshooter View Post
    Guy, Jack, everyone.
    I feel posting a thread like this is RUDE and an insult to the owners and even the members.
    Guy and Jack are most gracious to allow this conversation. I would not be so kind nor understanding.
    I can't understand this point of view. Why would it be rude to suggest a thread where members can let us know their blogs are updated?

    The opposite may be true though; by not allowing such announcements you make the reader feel that this very forum is the only place to visit, do not deviate.

    The last sentence I understand fine though - but aren't you free to practice all the censorship you want over at mu-43? Suggesting a thread shouldn't be allowed here, that's definitely rude in my book.

    This is a great Photography Forum and it's working beautifully.
    shooter
    With this I agree, partly. It's a great forum and it is not a coincidence you see links to threads over here at different places, for example at mu-43 and DPR.
    The forum software is what it is. I actually agree with Godfrey and find it akin to pain to wade through the "Fun" threads. But it can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    (...)
    Still, I'm sure Godfrey's initial intent was good, and I'm not sure what harm it does for those with blogs to advertise their wares?
    That's it.

    /Jonas

    (and no, I don't run any blog myself)

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    (and no, I don't run any blog myself)
    Nor do I . . . . . at least, the last post is a couple of years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    The last sentence I understand fine though - but aren't you free to practice all the censorship you want over at mu-43?
    I am posting here to request that no one from mu-43 engage Jonas regarding this comment. Out of respect to Jack and Guy as well as the members here, I think it's best that we leave Jonas' comment as the final word in this thread regarding mu-43.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    With this I agree, partly. It's a great forum and it is not a coincidence you see links to threads over here at different places, for example at mu-43 and DPR.
    We can agree on that. This is a great forum. Fwiw, I think the photo threads - in their current format - are fantastic - one of the very best aspects of GetDPI.

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Personally, I take offense to this comment. The load problem is due to whatever server you use to store your images having too small a pipe -- our GetDPI server has a huge pipe. View layout is simple if you choose a unified size and format for your images AND use the "Insert Image" icon to post it. If you use the simple "attachment" option, then all you get are thumbnail links to an uploaded file, so while it's fast, the view sucks --- which is why we do NOT recommend using it but left it in for folks who wanted a simple way to load a single image. Several folks appreciate it and continue to use it for simplicity, so it is what it is, but it is the ARTIST's choice, not ours...

    At the end of the day *IF* you use the GetDPI image gallery which is FREE, then images will load lightening fast, be sized to three sizes with the default at 1000 pixels unless your original is smaller than that (the other two sizes are a thumb and an original size as uploaded), and display quite nicely in our forum body if you use our "insert image" icon method and if further desired, the centering tag center and /center in the "[ ]" brackets..

    Sorry, but I take offense when people "assume" it is our end that's broken when we've gone to extreme measures to deliver a really fast, easy to use PHOTO site. I do agree the forum album software could have a better UI, but all the info on how to use it is there and it works very well once you get the hang of it. There is an album update in the works which we will load when it's out of beta.

    Finally, I understand the desire to drive folks to your own photo blog, but the bottom line is if it's good, they should find it and use it anyway without the need to drive traffic to it from a dedicated forum thread. In this, I agree that a signature link should suffice, but I'll leave it to the group of "bloggers" here to decide for themselves...


    Jack,

    My comment was specifically about photo threads, not the gallery features on GetDPI ... which I have never used. I do not load my photos anywhere but to my own web servers (both of which are very fast) or to flickr (which is also very fast).

    I always use the "insert image" commands in message posts. But long threads assemble dozens and dozens of photos per page, and that will inevitably be slow and awkward over time* as browsers have to download all that data at least once if it is no longer in cache ... there's simply a lot of data to shuffle down the pipe. I find it to be the same problem here that it is on every other site with long threads full of images.

    * (... I just clicked through five of the "more fun with 4/3 images..." thread pages, watching the network IO as each page loaded to completion. My connection is via an aDSL service with nominally 1500 Mbps download. I see very consistent download speed at 166 Kbyte/second, which is 88-89% efficiency ... very good really ... but each page is pulling down 10-13 Mbytes of data on average, one minute plus on average to see the whole page. Each time you add another post and photo, it has to reformat and pull down 50-60% of the data again. That's simply a clumsy way to view a lot of photographs, IMO. It says nothing negative about GetDPI ... any forum set up with a continuous stream like that is going to be lacking responsiveness. )

    My interest was not to drive people to my photo blog, or to provide a source of controversy. I enjoy and celebrate GetDPI ... and would like to see more of OTHER people's photos in their photo blogs, if they pursue one. I was hoping to expand the visibility of GetDPI subscribers' blogs in a way that would enhance the community here.

    Since so much controversy has erupted over this simple wish, I'm no longer interested to pursue it. Please delete the thread, or lock it, or whatever.

    thanks,
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    Last edited by Godfrey; 12th July 2010 at 13:39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amin View Post
    I am posting here to request that no one from mu-43 engage Jonas regarding this comment. Out of respect to Jack and Guy as well as the members here, I think it's best that we leave Jonas' comment as the final word in this thread regarding mu-43.
    No worries Amin, I'm not going to reply to anything, or mention that again. It was just something happening seeing Streetshooter spreading those ideas about not allowing conversations. Next time I'll censor myself, haha.
    But it would be fine if you replied to my message to you (June 29, via Brian).

    /Jonas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    But it would be fine if you replied to my message to you (June 29, via Brian).
    I just sent you a PM with my email address. Let's continue any further discussion offline.

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    Re: The FourThirds photo blog thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    No worries Amin, I'm not going to reply to anything, or mention that again. It was just something happening seeing Streetshooter spreading those ideas about not allowing conversations. Next time I'll censor myself, haha.
    But it would be fine if you replied to my message to you (June 29, via Brian).

    /Jonas
    Jonas, I just went back to check my e-mail and I missed forwarding it to Amin at the time - my sincere apologies to you both... I've forwarded it just now.

    Kind Regards

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