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    Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Tried to locate pics shot with that c-mount cine lens, but haven't found much. Anyone has some info about it or used it?

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Got this high speed lens and took it out for some shots this sunny evening... all shot fully open at f1.0. Quite a "swirler" but still an impressive lens considering it being made 1954
















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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Real center orientated lens and makes one dizzy but very special.
    I love it, sharp and close focus!

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Yep, wonderful for centered images such as my flower shots!

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Amazing images! I am a big fan of the swirly bokeh and my all time favourite lens is the Pancolar 80/1.8, because of its combined subject-isolation/swirly-bokeh characteristics. This Carl Meyer takes that all to an entirely new level. Thanks for sharing!

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Thanks coors, it reminds me of my Cooke Kinic f1.9 1" lens (which is quite a swirler too), but is much faster of course.

    fine details/bokeh...


    no swirls, but intense colors...


    swirls..
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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Very nice, you always come up with these great exotic lenses - where on earth do you find these things?

    I especially love the colors in these pictures, did you do any processing? My uncoated Cooke Kinic may have a similar swirl to it but I don't think it has this intensity in the colors unless I boost it up in PP.

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Klaus, these images make me think our 4/3 sensors are real big! How much do you need to stop down to get rid of the swirls?

    /Jonas

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    That lens is multicoated as it looks like (will post some lens pictures later) and produces well saturated images right out of the cam (my Lumix GH1 that is). This heavy and well made relatively small lens (f1.0 at 38mm is impressive to me) was made 1954, as read from the serial number which also indicates the real maker being Bausch & Lomb. It was sold under the name of "Carl Meyer" by Burke & James Photographic Co of Chicago. There are indications, that it might be a Plasmat type lens design, which Dr Paul Rudolph had developed many years before, being one of the first high speed lens designs (Kino Plasmat 1926 with f1.5, the fastest lens for that time)


    I have not yet done detailed testing Jones, more later...
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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Very nice, Klaus !

    I found another Videostigmat on Ebay (200/4) but cannot see which mount that would be
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Carl-Meyer-Video...item19bec15c2e

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Shots from my fav flower shop here in Weinheim (Christian Meyer Florist), all at f1.0 ...
















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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Quote Originally Posted by f6cvalkyrie View Post
    Very nice, Klaus !

    I found another Videostigmat on Ebay (200/4) but cannot see which mount that would be
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Carl-Meyer-Video...item19bec15c2e

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    That's a large format lens from what I know, flange mount. Front diamater should be about 50mm (2")

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    From the Herrmanshof park today, morning sun, the "usual suspects" for lens testing...



















    100% crop:

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    ... and a few available light shots at f1.0 in a spanish deli shop here








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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Amazing! Coverage appears to be ~5-6mm circle!

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    What about non-centre sharpness? If you focus on something in the corner (using magnification to make sure) is it also sharp? I don't have the correct terminology, but I guess I want to know if the lens just has a real curvature, or if sharpness also declines significantly from the centre to the edges of the frame.
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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Sure, I take orders, for optical consulting this is $200 per hour...

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Intensive evening autumn colors @f1.0

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Klaus- those are indeed beautiful. This is a fun format for lenses of all generations. And that one, looks amazing.

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Quote Originally Posted by kds315 View Post
    That lens is multicoated as it looks like (will post some lens pictures later) and produces well saturated images right out of the cam (my Lumix GH1 that is). This heavy and well made relatively small lens (f1.0 at 38mm is impressive to me) was made 1954, as read from the serial number which also indicates the real maker being Bausch & Lomb. It was sold under the name of "Carl Meyer" by Burke & James Photographic Co of Chicago. There are indications, that it might be a Plasmat type lens design, which Dr Paul Rudolph had developed many years before, being one of the first high speed lens designs (Kino Plasmat 1926 with f1.5, the fastest lens for that time)


    I have not yet done detailed testing Jones, more later...

    Hi, let me drop my 2 cents, if you care.
    I'm not sure this lens is Bausch & Lomb.
    Carl Meyer had their own Serial Number (date code) system and once they put their name on the lens they stamp their number as well. Sometimes you can find the original name and numbers under the barrel hidden, but unless it says B&L, I wouldn't be so sure. (as the matter of fact I'm 90% sure its not)

    I've had quiet a few Carl Meyer lenses over the years and my strong guess on this lens that this is D.O.Industries lens (which eventurally became Navitar) They manufactured many custom and special order lenses for Carl Meyer. All that said, I can add that there is nothing wrong with D.O. Ind.
    Many companies based in NY area such as DO, B&L, Wollensak, Kodak had similar coding system and had strong ties (eg DO Ind founder used to work for B&L)
    And I also believe that at one point James & Burke (aka Carl Meyer) actually bought and owned a D.O Ind. for a while, before Navitar got them. Confusing? (J&B CM did re-badged some Cooke, B&L Super Baltar, even Angenieux, but I don't think this is one of them)

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    We may know soon more, as I know the (Ex-) vice president of Bausch & Lomb and have contacted him about that lens and their serial numbering scheme.

    Thanks for your contribution!

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    I have been asked about a portrait shot @f1.0 ...


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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Nice lens, maybe a bit too swirly for me.
    These 1 1/2" lenses should not vignette at all right? Is there a database with more of these lenses? I am mainly interested in some wide angle lenses with full coverage.

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Quote Originally Posted by kds315 View Post
    I have been asked about a portrait shot @f1.0 ...
    Ahh, very nice. You picked someone who couldn't refuse.

    From the images you have posted it appears the "swirliness" can decrease with softer backgrounds and also when there is greater separation between the subject & background.

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Thanks Jim! I do agree, it does not swirl if the BG is smooth and/or greater separation, which can easily seen at the flower shot with the villa in the BG..

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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Late evening walk catching the last sun rays of today...



















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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Beautiful Photos/Bokegraphs Klaus!

    . . . . . another outstanding lens with OUTSTANDING RESULTS!


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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Quote Originally Posted by seakayaker View Post
    Beautiful Photos/Bokegraphs Klaus!

    . . . . . another outstanding lens with OUTSTANDING RESULTS!


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    Re: Carl Meyer (Burke & James) Videostigmat f1.0 1 1/2" (38mm)

    Thanks guys! Yes that "green guy" modeled nicely and full of patience

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