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    Nice colors. I don't understand why so many make so harsh complaints about Panasonic colors:
    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...hread=37419956

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagarmatha View Post
    Nice colors. I don't understand why so many make so harsh complaints about Panasonic colors:
    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...hread=37419956
    I myself find Panasonic colors excellent. Very subtile and realistic. Much better compared to Canon or Nikon - but I know this is very subjective

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    I myself find Panasonic colors excellent. Very subtile and realistic. Much better compared to Canon or Nikon - but I know this is very subjective
    Peter, do you always shoot raw or have you found a good setting in the camera fr jpeg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagarmatha View Post
    Peter, do you always shoot raw or have you found a good setting in the camera fr jpeg?
    I always shoot RAW, did not play yet with JPEG, as my main workflow is RAW with post processing in LR or C1.

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    Thanks, your inputs have been very rewarding for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    I myself find Panasonic colors excellent. Very subtile and realistic. Much better compared to Canon or Nikon - but I know this is very subjective
    Agree 100%. This is one of the things that makes me prefer the GH1 over the Nikons: real life colours, not unlike what I get with Fuji DSLRs. I can understand why many people like strong, bold colours, but most of the time, the world doesn't look like that, and it's easily obtainable with Photoshop anyway when needed.

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    I don't get the "colour" problem either. I would be very surprised if Panasonic had not benefitted from their association with Leica in terms of lens design and performance and I'm sure we are getting the benefit of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    I don't get the "colour" problem either. I would be very surprised if Panasonic had not benefitted from their association with Leica in terms of lens design and performance and I'm sure we are getting the benefit of it.

    LouisB
    I don't get it either.....I find I do LESS (if ever any..) color adjustment on the Panasonic RAW files than I do on my Canon 5D2 files. I am forever tweaking those.

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    Guys

    I'm very interested in one of these but would need to sell my 45mm macro to fund it so reluctant to do it without getting some feedback on the 100-300

    I have a GH2 with a 14-140, Olympus 9-18 and the Leica 45mm macro

    I use the 14-140 for probably 75% of my pictures and the 9-18 for most of the others. The Leica gets very little use as I don't really shoot much macro at all.

    The only area I don't really have covered is the long focal lengths which has got me thinking about the 100-300. I have previously owned a 45-200 but didn't think much to the image quality (although it was ok for the price) so I'm hoping the 100-200 is better.

    The 14-140 is great but I do find it a little soft towards the longer end

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveproctor View Post
    Guys

    I'm very interested in one of these but would need to sell my 45mm macro to fund it so reluctant to do it without getting some feedback on the 100-300
    Do not sell your 45 macro! I would not sell mine, to buy the 100-300. I would save up and also keep my eyes out for a second hand one at some point in the future. The 45 macro is way too good a lens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Do not sell your 45 macro! I would not sell mine, to buy the 100-300. I would save up and also keep my eyes out for a second hand one at some point in the future. The 45 macro is way too good a lens!

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    Louis.....that's EXACTLY what I say! The PL45 is a very special lens. There are a lot more long lens options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Louis.....that's EXACTLY what I say! The PL45 is a very special lens. There are a lot more long lens options.

    R
    Thank you for talking me out of selling mine. I don't use it much, but when I do, the results are stellar.

    So many lenses to own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    I must be the only person who owns one of these!
    What, a swan? Channelling Princess Lucky ...


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    Great image, Uwe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by httivals View Post
    Great image, Uwe.
    Thanks.

    Here is a video with the 100-300mm

    http://vimeo.com/18803257
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    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Thanks.

    Here is a video with the 100-300mm

    http://vimeo.com/18803257
    Uwe, beautiful subject and a very impressive video. Thanks for posting.

    Was the photograph above taken from the video?

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    Nice video, Uwe.

    A question to all of you who have the 100-300: Is this lens a bit low contrast?

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    Uwe, I enjoyed this a lot. I've only seen a Monarch migration once and it was really wonderful. A very large number covered a huge oak on our farm and then we saw them drift across the area during the next day. It would be really something to behold so many in one area. Thanks for sharing. And was glad to see the lens in use for video.

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    Re: Fun with Panasonic 100-300

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    A question to all of you who have the 100-300: Is this lens a bit low contrast?
    A tad low.....nothing that two seconds in LR doesn't remedy. OTOH, I find it a little bit sharper than expected.....at all focal lengths.

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    >Was the photograph above taken from the video?

    No, from a GH2.

    That is the problem that we often need the same lens on both cameras :-)

    >And was glad to see the lens in use for video.

    Larger lenses would require lens support and different tripod. We use a Miller DS-10

    http://www.outbackphoto.com/CONTENT_...S10/index.html

    We have two tripod plates:

    - One on the AF100
    - Second with an Arca clamp (from Acratech made for tripod plates)
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    Finally had a chance to try out my new 100-300 outdoors, after weeks of dull weather. Still not ideal light but these represent the kid of photos I like to take with a long zoom, all on a G1:

    300mm


    300mm


    300mm


    265mm


    100mm

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    Cool airliner photos Glenn. What airport is that?

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    Glenn, great use of the lens. Well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Cool airliner photos Glenn. What airport is that?
    Thanks, it's Edinburgh in Scotland

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Glenn, great use of the lens. Well done!
    Thanks Louis, it's what I photograph most, I'm very pleased with the lens

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    I am new to the site and fairly green in photography, at least with interchangeable lenses.
    Resisted for years because the best camera is the one you have with you .....
    I went thru the SLR days packing, or should i say leaving it behind, until the GF1 with the 20mm lens. Its always in my pocket when traveling.

    in spring I ordered the 14-140 lens and have been very pleased on hikes etc, but sometimes missed those distant animal and bird shots.

    Last November the 100-300 arrived, and I was very excited, but to be honest the last month has been difficult with this lens to say the least. If not for some of the shots here and on the photo-streams, would likely have given in already...

    Sure there have been some acceptable shots, but in general not so good, which means lost opportunity's which would have turned out better by using the 140 and cropping.

    Please keep posting and tagging your settings with the 100-300.
    Hopefully preserverence wins out

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    Apperloo,
    Using a very long lens with a very small camera is tricky. It's not easy to hold it stable enough, and although OIS helps, long is still long. To be on the safe side, I would use shutter priority, minimum 1/500s with OIS and 1/1000s without. That means that you will often be shooting wide open and/or at relatively high ISO, but there really is no such thing as a free lunch. Remember that, at the longest end, that lens is 600mm eqv. Only ten years ago, that kind of focal length was more or less unheard of in the amateur world.

    Correct technique is also important, and since the GF1 doesn't have a proper grip, you must have a relatively firm grip around the lens to keep it stable.

    Hope this helps, at least a little bit.

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    Re: Fun with Panasonic 100-300

    Welcome to the forum!

    I think the 100-300 lens is going to be tough on the GF1 and especially hard if you are using it without a viewfinder. At that long focal length you really need to be using a fast shutter speed and good technique to not get camera shake. If you try and rest the camera on something or use a tripod are you getting good results?

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    I have been using P mode. Will try shutter priority and give it a shot.
    Although I do have the viewfinder, I am more comfortable using my neck strap for support, although I will try it again.
    I have uploaded 3 photos to my album. The ducks napping are consistent to most of my results at this time. Noisy

    300mm Handheld, cropped 200%
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    300mm rested, cropped 100%


    300mm rested


    Oh my goodness, why are they so large ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    Thanks Louis, it's what I photograph most, I'm very pleased with the lens
    Actually, one advantage of the slightly lower contrast of this lens is that it preserves a lot more detail in the background, as can be seen in Lufthansa landing and the KLM taking off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Apperloo,
    Using a very long lens with a very small camera is tricky. It's not easy to hold it stable enough, and although OIS helps, long is still long. To be on the safe side, I would use shutter priority, minimum 1/500s with OIS and 1/1000s without. That means that you will often be shooting wide open and/or at relatively high ISO, but there really is no such thing as a free lunch. Remember that, at the longest end, that lens is 600mm eqv. Only ten years ago, that kind of focal length was more or less unheard of in the amateur world.

    Correct technique is also important, and since the GF1 doesn't have a proper grip, you must have a relatively firm grip around the lens to keep it stable.

    Hope this helps, at least a little bit.
    Apperloo.....Jorgen has the best advice (it should be laminated on a plastic card and sent out with any long lens sold).

    I have shot the 100-300 on my GF1 and it is a little problematic because of the lack of camera grip. One thing you might try is to get a monopod since it sounds like you are taking it hiking.

    Correct monopod technique is very important.....think of your two legs being the two legs of a tripod with the monopod being the third leg.

    Here is a random web search result on monopod technique:

    http://www.outdooreyes.com/photo5.php3

    Two other items that are not discussed much are 1) using a wired shutter release....reduces camera shake and frees up a hand.....(they are super cheap...I got mine for $8) and 2) a camera quick release plate to be able to mount your camera on the monopod quickly and not miss a shot.

    Practice....breathing .....stance....they all add up in the long term to you getting the most out of your lens.

    Hope this helps......R

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    The Moon at 300mm


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    Brought the 100-300 when I got my GF1, as I always enjoyed taking my 90-300 out with my 50D so wanted a decent tele to play with.

    Went out for a wander in Glasgow the other day when we had a bout of fog, strong winter sun and sudden frost... some of the animals hanging out in Kelvingrove Park became my first real tests

    I am pretty happy with its performance so far - AF and OIS managed to keep up with squirrels flitting about.. the only let-down being my aging reflexes to hit the shutter before they scampered off again!

    Focusing is silent and fast, haven't had too much hunting, even at 300mm.

    My only complaint so far is the zoom adjustment ring is a little stiff - perhaps a product of having such a substantial lens on a tiny body .. hard to generate the appropriate torque with the given grip. Or perhaps it's just my lens. And, of course, it is laughably huge compared to the set of 1"-square 25mm C-mounts I had knocking about in my bag.. but that's to be expected, being able to reach out to 300(/600)mm is totally worth it (for me, anyway).



    300mm, 1/400th at f5.6, ISO 400
    Shot with lens resting on fence strut.


    300mm, 1/320th at f5.6, ISO 400
    Shot half-kneeling, hand-held.


    .. nice for some landscape work too!

    300mm, 1/1250th at f8.0, ISO 100

    Stick with it, Apperloo, there's plenty of fun to be had

    -h

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    Excellent pics ishani, love the squirrel!!!

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    just how close were you to the squirrell??
    looks like a perfect portrait. eyes and face are in perfect focus and the expression is great!!

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    Ishani, welcome to the forum. Three fantastic exemplars of the lens in action. I too am knocked out with its use for landscape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    The Moon at 300mm


    That's a 75% scale. What aperture was it shot at?

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    Thanks for the welcomes and kind words!

    lcubed - pretty close, infact I think just on the edge of the 100-300's minimum focus distance; AF was rejecting occasionally as I tried to compose. I was lucky he had found something on the ground to eat and was distracted enough to let me fuss about quite near-by!

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    Wow, ishani--fantastic shots. I especially like the squirrel close-up. Perfect focus and great texture in the fur.

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    Ishani,

    Your shots are excellent. I have ordered my copy and will get it on Monday. It is great to see what this lens can do in capable hands.

    Well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
    That's a 75% scale. What aperture was it shot at?
    F8

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    Ishani.....I love that squirrel.....v nice.

    Here's a shot from this week at 300mm...a polebender casting for ulua.



    R

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishani View Post
    Brought the 100-300 when I got my GF1, as I always enjoyed taking my 90-300 out with my 50D so wanted a decent tele to play with.

    Went out for a wander in Glasgow the other day when we had a bout of fog, strong winter sun and sudden frost... some of the animals hanging out in Kelvingrove Park became my first real tests

    I am pretty happy with its performance so far - AF and OIS managed to keep up with squirrels flitting about.. the only let-down being my aging reflexes to hit the shutter before they scampered off again!

    Focusing is silent and fast, haven't had too much hunting, even at 300mm.

    My only complaint so far is the zoom adjustment ring is a little stiff - perhaps a product of having such a substantial lens on a tiny body .. hard to generate the appropriate torque with the given grip. Or perhaps it's just my lens. And, of course, it is laughably huge compared to the set of 1"-square 25mm C-mounts I had knocking about in my bag.. but that's to be expected, being able to reach out to 300(/600)mm is totally worth it (for me, anyway).



    300mm, 1/400th at f5.6, ISO 400
    Shot with lens resting on fence strut.


    300mm, 1/320th at f5.6, ISO 400
    Shot half-kneeling, hand-held.


    .. nice for some landscape work too!

    300mm, 1/1250th at f8.0, ISO 100

    Stick with it, Apperloo, there's plenty of fun to be had

    -h
    Its a great boost to see these awesome shots at 300mm, and with the GF1.

    WELL DONE

    I have been in grey and rainy days since i received mine, and am sure light has been part of the issues I have been fighting ..............

    Thank You again for posting your great captures.

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    Curious if anyone has used this lens indoors with ample light? At what focal length does the lens start to stop down from wide open? I will be on tripod shooting speakers at a podium that will be well lit.

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    Anyone who has the GH2 and 100-300 lens test for continuous AF? Moving subjects coming towards you? I shoot alot my kids doing sports and have a HS track kid who runs the 1600m. Probably the fastest subject I'll shoot.

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    Re: Fun with Panasonic 100-300

    from what i've seen on the other forums, CAF for video was in the preproduction GH2 0.2 firmware, but removed from the production 1.0 firmware.

    given the current weather conditions, i haven't tried AFC for stills on a fast moving object.

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    Here's a few, all at 300mm and through glass:






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    Today, in bloody awful light both shot at 300mm, iso800 f5.6 and not more than 1/250.




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