RichA
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Nikon sharper, more DOF. Odd, but interesting.
http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/unusual_dof_of_olympus_50mm_lens
http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/unusual_dof_of_olympus_50mm_lens
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which is perhaps why RichA thought it was interesting ... I find it interesting too and would like to know more (such as was there an accidental setting of the aperture. This is of course not recorded in the EXIF data.DOF is not a lens characteristic per se.... All other parameters being equal, also the DOF will be the same.
No, the battery row and the ruler were shot on separate days. The aperture was wide open. No way it could be actuated on the G1 either.which is perhaps why RichA thought it was interesting ... I find it interesting too and would like to know more (such as was there an accidental setting of the aperture. This is of course not recorded in the EXIF data.
I think the world is more complicated. A DOF calculator is based on a theoretical thin lins and is as such doomed not to work in real life. Well, a DOF calculator works, but it isn't that exact.DOF is not a lens characteristic per se. (...)
In reality it looks different.DOF is not a lens characteristic per se. It depends on the assumed circle of confusion and viewing conditions (frame magnification , viewing distance, eyesight). Two lenses of the same focal length, focused at the same distance and set to the same aperture will produce on the focus plane discs of confusion of the same size (diameter). All other parameters being equal, also the DOF will be the same.
There will never be anyone managing to show you images you can accept then. Still, we have folks very good at the trade every now and then discussing the different DOF they get from different lenses.It's somehow difficult to believe for me that "in real world" discs of confusion produced by lenses of the same f-length and at the same true aperture and focussing distance can differ
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This is referred to in the amateur astronomy world as focus "snap" where higher quality (accuracy) lenses produce a more pronounced in-focus point than lesser lenses. You know exactly when you hit focus.I think the world is more complicated. A DOF calculator is based on a theoretical thin lins and is as such doomed not to work in real life. Well, a DOF calculator works, but it isn't that exact.
For example, I have several times read about Zeiss 50mm lenses giving a more distinct "limit" between the in DOF area and the OOF area.
/Jonas
Maybe, but... When I think of a lens with good focus "snap" it is a lens having high contrast wide open and less SA than the "lesser" lens you mention. I don't think of a lens with more shallow DOF than another lens of the exact same speed and focal length.This is referred to in the amateur astronomy world as focus "snap" where higher quality (accuracy) lenses produce a more pronounced in-focus point than lesser lenses. You know exactly when you hit focus.
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OK. Then we agree. I never thought we discussed anything having a lot to do with practical photography...Mathematically (...)
So indeed to be exact:
DOF can vary with the lens construction and (...)
I still don't think these factors are critical for the practice of photography.
Your criteria are correct. Snap is produced by the lens being stripped of aberrations, taken to a specific quality level (waves accurate) so it will be apparent when it is in focus. There are about a dozen aberrations and physical characteristics that effect ultimate image sharpness. However, with two lenses of equal correction and different focal ratios, the faster lens will appear to meet focus more distinctly because its range of best focus is (like its DOF) narrower than the higher ratio lens.Maybe, but... When I think of a lens with good focus "snap" it is a lens having high contrast wide open and less SA than the "lesser" lens you mention. I don't think of a lens with more shallow DOF than another lens of the exact same speed and focal length.