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    Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Maybe I've been pre-conditioned to brand new cameras by having owned a D7000 (focus issues) for a week and seeing the Fuji X10 orb debacle?
    I was able to pick-up a GH2 and 14-140mm for $1100.00 so now I can wait (though I want the OM) for a month or two and see what the consumers say about the OM when it's released. The GH2 is my first new m4/3rds since I got my G1 a couple years back, though I've used others.
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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    It IS the best m4/3rds camera available for the past year or two? It is likely to be unmatched until the GH-3 shows up.
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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    And I just heard there may be no GH-3 for several months. Just a rumour though.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Well, having had my own personal little X10 debacle (with half sized DNG files in Aperture). I took it back and exchanged it for a GX1 with the power zoom. I was going to buy the zoom for the OMD anyway, and the package deal meant that I only effectively paid about 250 for the GX1 - I haven't had time to shoot properly, but it's almost exactly the same size as the X10, and the zoom does not have the irritations of the Olympus collapsable zoom (i.e. you don't notice it's collapsible).

    Not as sexy as the X10, but decently made, and feels pretty nice to use. I haven't got the VF2 - I thought I'd use the LCD until I knew how much I liked it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    It IS the best m4/3rds camera available for the past year or two? It is likely to be unmatched until the GH-3 shows up.
    I strongly prefer my E-P3 over my GH2.

    It is unlikely that the GH3 will match the OMD, IMO.

    Having said that, the GH2 is nice for well lit video, the GH3 may be better.

    It is a good time for m4/3 photography.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Absolutely, you may have your preference for whatever reasons, Bill, but the GH-2 is still the best for still and video.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Jono, what do you think of the power zoom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Absolutely, you may have your preference for whatever reasons, Bill, but the GH-2 is still the best for still and video.
    Totaly agree with you! Personaly, I have one GH2 and it is a one hell machine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Well, having had my own personal little X10 debacle (with half sized DNG files in Aperture). I took it back and exchanged it for a GX1 with the power zoom.
    If Fuji produces a fix and starts producing good copies, would you go back to one?

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Quote Originally Posted by RichA View Post
    The GH2 is my first new m4/3rds since I got my G1 a couple years back, though I've used others.
    GH-2 and G-1 here also. I was tempted by the Sony Nex-7, but then I got my hands on one and decided the GH-2 was just fine for me. I know I should want the bigger sensor camera, but I'm often amazed at how good the actual images from the G-1 and GH-2 look.

    Since I've decided to stick with m4/3rds, the OM-D will be an attractive option in the future.

    Which lenses are you tempted to get? I'm still considering the 7-14, the Leica 25/1.4 and 45 macro.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Quote Originally Posted by RichA View Post
    If Fuji produces a fix and starts producing good copies, would you go back to one?
    I don't think so - it's obviously going to be a while for a fix, and in the meantime there'll be other cameras with bigger and better sensors.

    I did like it - but I wonder how much I would have used it in the final analysis.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

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    Jono, what do you think of the power zoom?
    Hi Amin
    I haven't had time to put it through it's paces - from an ergonomic point of view it's fine - the Olympus one really bugged me . . rather like the 'please remove the lens cap and press a button' message from some other cameras.

    Switch the camera on and the zoom works.

    I'm not keen on the cheap metal lugs, but otherwise the build quality seems pretty good.

    tentatively impressed!

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    It is purely an emotional thing but when I saw the GX1 close up for the first time last week it was difficult to resist the urge to buy one. There is something about the form factor, especially with the little 14-42 zoom which makes it very attractive. However, as I already have a GH-2 I think I'll wait a while and see how Panasonic counters the competition from the OM-D. I don't think they will take too long to come back with something as good or better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    GH-2 and G-1 here also. I was tempted by the Sony Nex-7, but then I got my hands on one and decided the GH-2 was just fine for me. I know I should want the bigger sensor camera, but I'm often amazed at how good the actual images from the G-1 and GH-2 look.

    Since I've decided to stick with m4/3rds, the OM-D will be an attractive option in the future.

    Which lenses are you tempted to get? I'm still considering the 7-14, the Leica 25/1.4 and 45 macro.

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    I think the 7-14mm because I have a Schneider 25mm f0.95 CCTV lens that works pretty well on the G1. As for macros, I'm kind of torn. I could get the 45mm, but 'I've owned older 50mm and 100mm macro lenses before and might get a Nikon 105mm (manual focusing of course).

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Another great lens for the GH2 is the 45-175mm X. It's very small and light and resolves fine detail substantially better than the 45-200mm (at least the one I have). There were some people complaining about the OIS at certain shutter speeds with the 45-175mm. I haven't seen a problem yet. Also, I don't expect OIS to ever equal images shot on a tripod or at high enough shutter speeds.

    Shot on a tripod or at high shutter speeds at least the 45-175mm X is one hell of a lens, and the OIS seems very good based on my initial impressions.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Sometimes I wonder if I should give 4/3 a second chance. Last year I owned the GH2 + 14-140mm system for just some weeks before selling it. I felt that I just could not get decent handheld pictures in the house. The zoom seemed too slow and the high ISO was nowhere what I was used to having with a good Sony APS-C sized sensor.

    But then again, it was the darkest time of the year. And it DOES get dark here around 65 North. Also, perhaps I should've given the camera a chance with a 20mm f/1.7 pancake too. Admittedly the video was very fine and I might have use for that today.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    EMR - you ought to give it a second chance. I now have two GH2s. Started with a GH1 and the 14-140mm. I didn't like the lens. It was too large and too slow.

    I have now converted entirely to m4/3s, with almost all of the Panasonic lenses available and the Oly 45mm f1.8.

    The primes especially make the system sing. The 7-14mm and fisheye (specialized prime) are fantastic too.

    The 45-175mm X is phenomenal for its optical quality + size/weight + price


    Quote Originally Posted by emr View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if I should give 4/3 a second chance. Last year I owned the GH2 + 14-140mm system for just some weeks before selling it. I felt that I just could not get decent handheld pictures in the house. The zoom seemed too slow and the high ISO was nowhere what I was used to having with a good Sony APS-C sized sensor.

    But then again, it was the darkest time of the year. And it DOES get dark here around 65 North. Also, perhaps I should've given the camera a chance with a 20mm f/1.7 pancake too. Admittedly the video was very fine and I might have use for that today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emr View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if I should give 4/3 a second chance. Last year I owned the GH2 + 14-140mm system for just some weeks before selling it. I felt that I just could not get decent handheld pictures in the house. The zoom seemed too slow and the high ISO was nowhere what I was used to having with a good Sony APS-C sized sensor..
    I'm in the same boat, and have an OM-D on order. When I look back over the last few years, frankly I had some of my most fun shooting with the EP1. These days I have an NEX-5n, seduced by the bigger sensor and while I do like the files it doesn't really seem as fun to shoot. My eyes have gotten lousy so I actually need an EVF unless I put on reading glasses. I have the accessory one for the nex-5n and it is great, but bulky and I'm always afraid I'm going to tear it off. The OM-D just looks like a more balanced setup, and there are some lenses like the 45mm that I think I'd really like. I've had an nex7 on order for months but may bag it, sell the Sony stuff and go back to u4/3 for every day shooting. I have an a77 for things I need to do at work, and I actually sold my DLux4. Hoping the OM-D will be the "do most everything" camera...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    I'm in the same boat, and have an OM-D on order. When I look back over the last few years, frankly I had some of my most fun shooting with the EP1. These days I have an NEX-5n, seduced by the bigger sensor and while I do like the files it doesn't really seem as fun to shoot. My eyes have gotten lousy so I actually need an EVF unless I put on reading glasses. I have the accessory one for the nex-5n and it is great, but bulky and I'm always afraid I'm going to tear it off. The OM-D just looks like a more balanced setup, and there are some lenses like the 45mm that I think I'd really like. I've had an nex7 on order for months but may bag it, sell the Sony stuff and go back to u4/3 for every day shooting. I have an a77 for things I need to do at work, and I actually sold my DLux4. Hoping the OM-D will be the "do most everything" camera...
    Now that Olympus is offering valuable freebees in Canada and the U.S. with ordering the OM-D, I'm torn myself!

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    I'm in the same boat, and have an OM-D on order. When I look back over the last few years, frankly I had some of my most fun shooting with the EP1. These days I have an NEX-5n, seduced by the bigger sensor and while I do like the files it doesn't really seem as fun to shoot. My eyes have gotten lousy so I actually need an EVF unless I put on reading glasses. I have the accessory one for the nex-5n and it is great, but bulky and I'm always afraid I'm going to tear it off. The OM-D just looks like a more balanced setup, and there are some lenses like the 45mm that I think I'd really like. I've had an nex7 on order for months but may bag it, sell the Sony stuff and go back to u4/3 for every day shooting. I have an a77 for things I need to do at work, and I actually sold my DLux4. Hoping the OM-D will be the "do most everything" camera...
    HI Todd
    coming from a very similar place here (I also have an A77 together with the M9 stuff). I rather liked the NEX 5n with the viewfinder . . . and the NEX7, but I agree, had more fun with my EP3 in the autumn, and I have an OMD on order too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    ... and I have an OMD on order too.
    Jono, do you take reservation numbers for the time you sell it 2-4 weeks later?
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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

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    HI Todd
    coming from a very similar place here (I also have an A77 together with the M9 stuff). I rather liked the NEX 5n with the viewfinder . . . and the NEX7, but I agree, had more fun with my EP3 in the autumn, and I have an OMD on order too.
    Truth be told I do like the focus peaking, even with AF on. I don't really have to "see" what's going on, the red peaking tells me what's up. But I just can't really wrap myself around the ergos of the system - the lenses are just too big. That is where u4/3 wins I think - balance of design form and function. From the pictures the OM-D knocks it out of the park in that regard.

    I've thought about picking up an EP-3 in the meantime to tide me over. I figure the Sony viewfinder is an easy sell on eBay, and maybe the 5n as well. For whatever reason the Oly 45/1.8 is seductive, and the two new primes are singing a siren song as well. Now if only Oly would put focus peaking on the OM-D

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Quote Originally Posted by emr View Post
    Jono, do you take reservation numbers for the time you sell it 2-4 weeks later?
    I certainly do!

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    All the samples from all of the sites show the OM-D to be the best 4/3 so far and in fact is on par with nearly identical IQ, to the Nex 5n. That said I tend to agree with the OP's philosophy here. GH2 for now and in the next 6 months sell it off for the OM-D. I'm doing the same thing but with my almost brand new GH1 (again for the 4th time now) at around $250 (body only).

    Even if the GH3 has slightly better IQ than the OM-D I just don't care. The OM-D looks and feels like a real camera instead of a plastic junker like all of the Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic cameras. Additionally Olympus is a camera company of some repute while Sony and Panasonic I feel are only a half a step removed from Hong Kong style cheap-o electronic manufacturers - Samsung is not even a half a step. I haven't investigated Oly's warrantee and service policies but Panasonic's are just about non-existant - and I guess Sony's and Samsung's would be poor as well.

    I can feel good about an Oly camera body! Especially one which includes a few professional features, has IBIS, introduces some new firsts technologically, and reminds me of a few old friends; namely the OM1, OM2, OM10, and the OM4! I've always felt my decision to buy Panasonic was the lesser of the evils - but with good video - after hacking it. Besides a new Leica, the OM-D is my 1st choice from among the current selections - and let's face it; there's just no way I'm willing to pay out what Leica is asking - for an electronic gadget which will meet up with the demon of obsolesce in less than or about 5 years time.

    If I were richer I would have gone GH1 -> GH1 -> GH2 -> GH2 -> OM-D!
    But as it is I'm quite content to go GH1 -> GH1 -> GH1 -> GH1 -> OM-D!
    and maintain a saner less risky budget profile of $550 -> $400 -> $300 -> $250 -> $??? (respectively).
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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    This may sound silly but I would recommend this wholeheartedly: there is a very simple and cheap way to transform a plastic computer lumix into a proper feeling camera. Buy leather half case. I have acquired one for my G3 an it now has a "feel" little different from early 1980s film cameras, they heyday for convincing feeling consumer cameras IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
    All the samples from all of the sites show the OM-D to be the best 4/3 so far and in fact is on par with nearly identical IQ, to the Nex 5n. That said I tend to agree with the OP's philosophy here. GH2 for now and in the next 6 months sell it off for the OM-D. I'm doing the same thing but with my almost brand new GH1 (again for the 4th time now) at around $250 (body only).

    Even if the GH3 has slightly better IQ than the OM-D I just don't care. The OM-D looks and feels like a real camera instead of a plastic junker like all of the Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic cameras. Additionally Olympus is a camera company of some repute while Sony and Panasonic I feel are only a half a step removed from Hong Kong style cheap-o electronic manufacturers - Samsung is not even a half a step. I haven't investigated Oly's warrantee and service policies but Panasonic's are just about non-existant - and I guess Sony's and Samsung's would be poor as well.

    I can feel good about an Oly camera body! Especially one which includes a few professional features, has IBIS, introduces some new firsts technologically, and reminds me of a few old friends; namely the OM1, OM2, OM10, and the OM4! I've always felt my decision to buy Panasonic was the lesser of the evils - but with good video - after hacking it. Besides a new Leica, the OM-D is my 1st choice from among the current selections - and let's face it; there's just no way I'm willing to pay out what Leica is asking - for an electronic gadget which will meet up with the demon of obsolesce in less than or about 5 years time.

    If I were richer I would have gone GH1 -> GH1 -> GH2 -> GH2 -> OM-D!
    But as it is I'm quite content to go GH1 -> GH1 -> GH1 -> GH1 -> OM-D!
    and maintain a saner less risky budget profile of $550 -> $400 -> $300 -> $250 -> $??? (respectively).

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

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    I certainly do!
    I believe I'm on the waiting list for the grip... If you haven't changed your mind, or find it useful, or I got outbid...
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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Dave, I'd still know it was a plastic junker from a plastic AM radio manufacturer underneath tho.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Interesting thread. I picked up a GH2 last month and I like the light feeling of the body. If I want the feel of a "real" camera I can always shlep around my D3s with its bevy of heavy lenses. I started with the 14-45 and since picked up the 20 1.7 and the Oly 45 1.8. I don't think the whole kit in the small Billingham pouch bag weighs two pounds.The results from the Lumix GH2 - and I use it exclusively as a walk around camera, have been surprisingly good. In the end, it is that fact and not whether it looks or feels like a real camera that I am concerned with, but then again, that's just me.
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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    It sounds like you would like the OM-D even better then! The OM-D is actually lighter than the GH2 I think. Smaller too. But then so was the OM1, OM2, and OM4. Size and weight do not a "real camera feel" make.

    The way i figure it there's so little IQ difference between any of these newer 4/3 cameras that it's just ridiculousness at this point to think too much about it. Three years ago I didn't think that was the case but I do today. So what does that leave when selecting a camera?

    Features, ergonomics, looks, company.

    The OM-D's feature set is the sweetest IMO for me. It's got live bulb! A fast continuous drive mode and a big enough buffer to actually use it! It has an industry first anti-shake system! And I believe focus peeking was there as well but I don't recall exactly because that's not important to me.

    Ergonomically the OM-D passed everything by with the simple phrase: "Portrait Grip". Boom!

    Looks are subjective but most people have said they like the looks of the OM Film cameras a lot. Me too! For me nothing looks and feels better than a camera like the OM4, the AE-1, A1, F3, and so on. Those are what I like! Those seem to be what most hobbyists say they like. Second up are the RF style bodies but I've not heard anyone speak of any of the 4/3 bodies in this way except for the new GX1 from the RF crown and now the OM-D from the rest of us.

    Company... Well I don't need to say anything here. If people don't get the difference between Olympus and names like Panasonic, Sony, and Samsung there's little hope of explaining it to them.

    So for me that's it! It's got it all! Features, ergonomics, looks, and a [camera] company I can respect!

    There are only two things I don't like about the OM-D:

    1) It hasn't been released yet!
    2) I don't have one.


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    I re-chickened, chickened out (returned GH2, ordered OM-D)

    Quote Originally Posted by RichA View Post
    Maybe I've been pre-conditioned to brand new cameras by having owned a D7000 (focus issues) for a week and seeing the Fuji X10 orb debacle?
    I was able to pick-up a GH2 and 14-140mm for $1100.00 so now I can wait (though I want the OM) for a month or two and see what the consumers say about the OM when it's released. The GH2 is my first new m4/3rds since I got my G1 a couple years back, though I've used others.
    I wanted the OM-D in the first place. My idea was to use the GH2 (which I got for a good price) then switch if the OM-D was decent. Then I did some testing of the GH2. Though it had noticeably better resolution than the G1, because of its lower sensitivity (about 2/3 stop) by the time you equalized the image illumination with the G1 in RAW, the noise levels of both cameras were not far off, at least at 800 ISO which is about as high as I shoot normally.
    Plus, the studio shots on Dpreview look good, there appears to be less yellow blotch noise at 1600 and 3200 ISO than the G3/GH2's. Also, the GH2 RAWs are very flat and colour-subdued. They require noticeable work post-shooting and I don't see the point in increasing RAW workflow time. The RAWS differ from the G1 which are more saturated and contrasty.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    At present I have a GH2 and G3, both of which are very nice. The files are unfortunately a bit less resilient than I would like, but are completely adequate most of the time. When there are more stringent demands I have other equipment.

    I have an OM-D on order because I have a number of lenses I like using that don't have OIS that could really use stabilization. As far as image quality is concerned I am optimistic that it will be another step forward, but am not really convinced yet.

    So... the upsides to the OM-D:
    IBIS, probably decent speed and a proper buffer (the achilles heel of the G3); finally an Olympus with a built in viewfinder.

    The downsides:
    Stupid styling. Putting hard edges and pointy bits on a camera body was necessary when you had to bend metal to make a body, but now it will just hook on things. I'll pick the G3 easily over the OM-D for styling.

    Likely, the Olympus interface. I didn't care for it on the digital Pen models, and most likely it will still be somewhat problematic. But again, I'll reserve judgement until I get it in my hands. The later Pen cameras have gotten better. It amazed me when m43 started that Panasonic, a company with no camera history, got it so much better than Olympus.

    Lack of CA correction for the lenses. I use LR for processing, so that's less of an issue now, but why can't Olympus and Panasonic get together on in in-camera corrections?

    But all in all I'm eagerly awaiting the OM-D to use with lenses like the 200 micro Nikkor, 25/0.95 Voiglaender and some Leica lenses.

    Henning

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichA View Post
    I think the 7-14mm because I have a Schneider 25mm f0.95 CCTV lens that works pretty well on the G1. As for macros, I'm kind of torn. I could get the 45mm, but 'I've owned older 50mm and 100mm macro lenses before and might get a Nikon 105mm (manual focusing of course).
    Has anyone tried the Nikkor 200mm If micro on a GHh2... I think it should be great for insects etc., with or without the tilt adaptor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emr View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if I should give 4/3 a second chance. Last year I owned the GH2 + 14-140mm system for just some weeks before selling it. I felt that I just could not get decent handheld pictures in the house. The zoom seemed too slow and the high ISO was nowhere what I was used to having with a good Sony APS-C sized sensor.

    But then again, it was the darkest time of the year. And it DOES get dark here around 65 North. Also, perhaps I should've given the camera a chance with a 20mm f/1.7 pancake too. Admittedly the video was very fine and I might have use for that today.
    I have the 20mm f1.7, and it is great for indoor shots, including gymnasts doing cartwheels @1/500!

    The 20mm is too wide for many shots, so I have recently got the Olympus 45mm f1.8... and it seemed to be performing OK in a dark old pub last weekend... I am going to a (95th) birthday party in a pub on Saturday, so I might have another trial.

    We are only 52 degrees north, but the small windows of an English pub make for a major challenge for flash-free photography... the gym/dance studios had larger windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dick View Post
    I have the 20mm f1.7, and it is great for indoor shots, including gymnasts doing cartwheels @1/500!

    The 20mm is too wide for many shots, so I have recently got the Olympus 45mm f1.8... and it seemed to be performing OK in a dark old pub last weekend... I am going to a (95th) birthday party in a pub on Saturday, so I might have another trial.

    We are only 52 degrees north, but the small windows of an English pub make for a major challenge for flash-free photography... the gym/dance studios had larger windows.
    I got a GH2 late last year... mainly for the video side of things, which it does very well.

    But have been using it more and more for still shooting, and I am getting to like it. The light weight means i can carry it using a Gordy wrist strap, having the 20mm pana and 45mm oly lenses gives me a fast walk round without a bag setup.... the 45mm fits in my trouser pocket.

    Used this set up in a bar the other night and was pretty pleased with the results


    P1010741 by kevinparis, on Flickr


    P1010708 by kevinparis, on Flickr

    more shots from the session here

    Blues at the Hotsy Totsy - a set on Flickr


    I will probably pick up an OMD when they become available.... and maybe a second GH2 for multi cam video shoots.... its just a pity the OMD video formats looks a little restricting at the moment 30p and 30 minutes of continuous shooting time

    ah wel you can't have everything....where would you put it :-)

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Quote Originally Posted by dick View Post
    Has anyone tried the Nikkor 200mm If micro on a GHh2... I think it should be great for insects etc., with or without the tilt adapter.
    I use it very often, until recently on G1 and now on the GH2
    Great combination for shooting insects and other things when you need to stay away from them.

    I even use it with the TC300, a 2x teleconvertor. Still very good image quality.

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    Re: Too chicken to buy the new OM-D, got GH2 instead

    Quote Originally Posted by f6cvalkyrie View Post
    I use it very often, until recently on G1 and now on the GH2
    Great combination for shooting insects and other things when you need to stay away from them.

    I even use it with the TC300, a 2x teleconvertor. Still very good image quality.

    C U
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    I also have a Leica-made Novoflex 400mm, and a Novoflex 2* converter!

    With a film Nikon, the first thin I photographed with the Noflexor 640mm was a dragon fly in flight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dick View Post
    The 20mm is too wide for many shots, so I have recently got the Olympus 45mm f1.8... and it seemed to be performing OK in a dark old pub last weekend... I am going to a (95th) birthday party in a pub on Saturday, so I might have another trial.
    I can understand you but I also want wider too. I wouldn't mind having a 20 or 21 that was angled like a 20 or 21 on a FF camera. An maybe not so much just for the width alone but there are some really sweet lenses out there which really shine on a FF. For example I was reading along in a thread at another forum and was really intrigued with the Zx Distagon T* 21mm f/2.8 lens. When I got it here and put it on the camera it seemed pretty wide but it did't really have the same magic I was seeing in other people's shots. So I decided to see how much I was missing out on. After a visit to Wikipedia I came up with this:





    The blue frame is what the ZE 21/2.8 would cover on a FF. The image there is an actual (uncropped) shot with it on my GH1 scaled correctly in order to visualize the differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
    I can understand you but I also want wider too. I wouldn't mind having a 20 or 21 that was angled like a 20 or 21 on a FF camera.
    Wide Angle is difficult with sub-miniture.

    Sometimes it is better to increase the format rather than decrease the focal length... some people use MF with a Hartblie camera and Canon or Nikon lenses.

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    sub-miniture?

    Not sure what you mean but that's a full-sized SUV parked in the parking lot across from my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
    sub-miniture?

    Not sure what you mean but that's a full-sized SUV parked in the parking lot across from my house.
    Decades ago cameras were classified by film format size,

    large (5 * 4" and bigger)

    medium 2.25" * whatever (120 film)

    and miniture, or 35mm (24*36mm)

    and anything smaller than 35mm was described as sub-miniture, (including half-frame (18 * 24mm) which used 35mm film.

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    Oh I get it. K. Thanks for explaining that. Had you said micro four thirds or just four thirds I wouldn't have assumed you were referring to the car tho.

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