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    The Zoom Conundrum

    Okay - we all like shooting primes - the results are notably better, and the more 'useful' the zoom, the more compromises it has.

    Still, there are those moments.

    I was out today with the 14-150 Zuiko - which is a good(ish) and very 'useful' zoom.

    This is a fairly decent shot I took with it:


    it's a little soft at the corners, but not silly bad, and the detail and micro contrast in the middle is really pretty good.

    . . . . . but it would have been better with the 25. . . . and then . . round the corner:





    I got a few shots in quick succession . . . and then . . . oops. . . busted



    Then they were gone.

    I've never seen fox cubs playing in the wild before, and if I'd had the 25mm on the camera then I would have missed it.

    all the best
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    P.S. for Bart - I've taken a slight poetic license to show a decent first shot, I'm sure you'll notice, so I confess already!

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    First shot link doesn't work. Just a blue question mark box.

    Great cubs!

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    Thanks Matt - should be okay now although you may need to refresh the blue question mark
    Stupid me . . trying to juggle too many eggs!
    all the best

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    Yes, that worked (refreshing).

    Jono, the cubs are cute, never seen any myself, let alone photograph them - well done!

    I was caught out the other week when I spotted an owl in daylight, but only had my GXR with me. I got a couple of shots with an an old 135/4 russian lens which performed pretty well, but still it was too far away. I returned next day with the huge honking 70-400 on the A900 and of course it was gone!
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    Yes, definitely a conundrum. You're in the lucky position of being able to carry an OM-D with zoom plus a Leica and prime. Both should fit in a small bag. Me - I'll be working towards a black OM-D to go with my silver one .

    Love the fox cubs at play!

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    Cute cubs!
    But... they don't look that sharp to my eyes? In the images were we see all three of them the grass is sharp at the focus plane looking to the right but not when looking to the left of the youngsters. What's going on?

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    Since Sigma has shown some interest in the m43rds market I keep hoping they will introduce a decent range of zooms, and fast ones at that.

    The last shot with the cub is a winner. I don't have to tell an experienced photographer like you that it is the camera/lens you have with you that gets the shot and not the best camera/lens combination you can own.

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    Cute cubs!
    But... they don't look that sharp to my eyes? In the images were we see all three of them the grass is sharp at the focus plane looking to the right but not when looking to the left of the youngsters. What's going on?
    Hi Jonas
    You're quite right - it wasn't perfect - they're cropped a lot, and the focus isn't perfect . . . . but I was too far away for perfection, and the opportunity only lasted a few seconds.
    I wasn't putting them up as world class photos - just simply that they wouldn't exist without a zoom lens.

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    Your point is very well made Jono. I just wish somehow the mZD 14-150 was a little shorter.

    Those are special shots of the fox cubs, well done!

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    The zoom lens on the Fuji X10 is simply great. The manual twist is lightning fast and the lens is f2 to f2.8 throughout. The whole camera is tiny too compared to a m4/3 or APS-C setup with lens.
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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    Jono- have you counted the chickens since then .

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    The zoom lens on the Fuji X10 is simply great. The manual twist is lightning fast and the lens is f2 to f2.8 throughout. The whole camera is tiny too compared to a m4/3 or APS-C setup with lens.
    Yes - the X10 is great for that but I guess in this point they still would have been too far out. My smallest long lens reasonable sized sensor solution is the Nikon V1 with 30-110 lens. I had that over my shoulder the whole time I was in Death Valley.

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    Neat pix, Jono.

    I've long since given up trying to get every interesting shot that comes along. I put a lens on the camera, no matter what type, and look for what I have in mind that it can capture, passing up things it can't.

    The fact that I can't capture any subject at will doesn't bother me. The only thing that matters is that what I want to photograph is captured the way I want it. :-)

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    What a strike of luck to stumble up on these fox cubs, Jono.
    That last cub shot is a cracker.
    Once a fox came so close to me, I had difficulty to get it in focus (k5+1.7t/c+200mm).
    Still, too bad you hadn't mounted the 100-300, but you did quite well with 14-150.
    And I can understand you're choice for a more versatile lens.

    Oh I did notice, but you're forgiven ...

    Kind regards.
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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Jonas
    You're quite right - it wasn't perfect - they're cropped a lot, and the focus isn't perfect . . . . but I was too far away for perfection, and the opportunity only lasted a few seconds.
    OK, I guess that explains it.

    I wasn't putting them up as world class photos - just simply that they wouldn't exist without a zoom lens.
    Heh. I hope "world class photo" won't ever be required for posting here... And I surely understood your topic title. All I wondered was why the focus plane was so bent. Maybe that is a part of the conundrum.

    The last cub image is very charming!

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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    A zoom I hardly feel is much of a compromise is the Canon 70-200mm f/4 IS zoom. I would like to see such a zoom (35-100mm f/2.8-3.5) for m43.
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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    I agree that the Canon 70-200mm f4/IS zoom is one of the best I've used for performance, size, weight, and value. The only one I've used that rivals the Canon is the Panasonic 7-14mm. The original Panasonic 14-45mm is also excellent but it is too slow for m4/3.

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    >The only one I've used that rivals the Canon is the Panasonic 7-14mm.

    Agreed, extremely good if you count weight, quality and even in the end price. The 43 7-14mm Olympus is nice too but more bulky and expensive.
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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    The Panasonic 35-100 f2.8 is supposed to be released this summer or autumn, according to rumours. It was announced some time ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    A zoom I hardly feel is much of a compromise is the Canon 70-200mm f/4 IS zoom. I would like to see such a zoom (35-100mm f/2.8-3.5) for m43.

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    > It was announced some time ago.

    Fingers crossed. But Panasonic is so slow in delivering new lenses.
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    Re: The Zoom Conundrum

    Many photographers have made classic transcendental shots with only primes. I honestly don't see much conundrum here. It all depends what you like to shoot/what you want to do and how you do it.

    Just my 2 cents.

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