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    GH3 + Leica 2.8/90. These images came straight from the camera.
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    GH3 + Leica Apo 3.4/180, a lens I almost sold off.
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    I got the GH3 a couple of days ago including the extra grip. I like the camera so far but just like my GH2 it seems to lack auto iso when a manual lens is attached via an adapter. This is something the OMD-5 can do and I wonder why panasonic is refusing to add this feature. I want to be able to set a shutter speed in manual mode, an aperture on the lens itself and have the iso adjust itself accordingly.

    Also, has anyone figured out how to set the lower limit of the shutter speed in program mode ? Often times it defaults to 1/60 with a lens wide open while the iso is not hitting the upper limit I have set. I would rather have the shutter speed be 1/125 or higher and the iso hit my upper limit than a to low shutter speed which produces a blurry photo.

    This would all be solved if auto iso in manual mode existed.

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    I put up some initial observations of the GH3 on my blog: Panasonic GH3: First Impressions

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    From your review:

    >I find the lack of the click wheel somewhat annoying but maybe it’s something I will get used to over time.

    I like the GH3 much better (maybe because I also use the Nikons a lot). One dial for one function is much better than the click dual function.
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    Re: Fun with Panasonic GH3

    Same here. Haven't used the GH3 one yet tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
    It's usually very slight, but it's there. It's the difference one can often only see by comparing the AF result with the human adjusted correction in MF. Sometimes it's bigger and can be seen in the files but this could easily be mistaken for a bit (1 pixel or so) of camera shake or just a naturally soft lens. So if you're not checking by MF you're probably just thinking that's how it's supposed to look.

    But we're asking the camera to both do the impossible by reading our minds and also go beyond it's physical limits too. It can't actually read our minds so for one example when the AF box is the size of our subject (say, a coffee mug on a table) selecting which part it should focus on (the front, the upper lip, the lower seat, the outline edge, the handle, the rear rim lip) is just random chance or maybe the part with the strongest contrast. Same with a face when not in face detection mode. It won't know if it should focus on the tip of the nose or the stray hairs from the pony-tail in back. The AF systems in the GH1 and 2 are extremely limited and can almost NEVER achieve "critical focus". This is well known by many.

    It does also sometimes get the entire shot (or mug in our previous example) wrong. This is true with the OM-D, 3 different GH2s that I've used and a countless (8 or 10) GH1s - also several of the other Olympus 4/3 models too. It's just the nature of the beast. If you never half-press plus re-half-press your shutter release button when it doesn't focus satisfactorily the first time you will get a large number of images which are out of focus - mostly only slightly but sometimes enough to be bothersome too. These count as misses even if you didn't go ahead and capture the image the first time.

    Then there are the mechanics of the DOF range which compounds the errors mentioned above. If you're shooting with a typical 4/3 zoom or any of the slower-ish primes there is a huge margin for error between where the optimal focus setting actually is and what the AF system comes up with. Any of these alone or combined may be within your own personal tolerances but it's not perfectly accurate. In my case 4 out of 5 AF attempts are outside my personal tolerance levels and noticeable to me. So much so that I usually prefer to shoot adapted mechanical manual-focus lenses.

    The way in which a DSLR usually works is different. The AF areas (points!) are smaller and MUCH more precise. On consumer grade DSLRs there are usually a lot less of these points which leaves a lot of margin for error in between them. So it is in concept and so it is in practice. Thus my distinction between consumer grade and pro bodies.

    No AF is perfect. Pro body AF can often be very good but still has faults. Consumer grade DSLR AF and 4/3 AF is problematic for all but the most casual styles or high personal tolerance levels. That the GH3 might be better than the GH2 and I would hope the OM-D as well, is good news IMO. However, I won't be expecting a perfect AF system on any camera anytime in the foreseeable future. Unfortunate but true I'm afraid.
    The (too) big AF point has been allways something I dislike with the OMD. Face recognition helps here, but it is not a 100% hit rate.
    And even one generally uses lenses wich do not produce the shallow DOF like fast lenses on ff.
    The gh1 had allready a smaller AF-point than the OMD.
    If gh3 AF-point is even smaller this would be quite an advantage IMO.

    By the way the AF of the D700 and D3 I had worked very accurate, and the one of the 5diii also does a pretty good job. But then those cameras are much bigger and more expensive than m4/3.
    Other than the big focus point I find the AF speed of the OMD pretty impressive. Is the GH3 as fast?

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    This time we used the Panasonic 14-140mm zoom. Results are ok but clearly not as good as using the 35-100mm f/2.8 zoom. Why did we not use the 35-100mm? We used two cameras and the 35-100mm was mounted to our GH2. Two 35-100mm zooms would be welcome but also quite expensive.















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    So I finally got my Fotodiox OM to m4/3 adapter and threw on the Oly 50mm f/1.8. Here are a couple... at f/1.8. Tweaked in Lightroom 4. Here's a link to my blog post about it: http://thephotosoup.blogspot.com/201...sonic-gh3.html









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    Posted these for the G3 (but was GH3):







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    Uwe - very nice photographs! Here is my GH3 self portrait.

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    Finally; My GH3 has arrived

    Panasonic wonders why they do not sell a lot more cameras, every one I have purchased has been a delayed delivery, whether I purchased from online Hong Kong or Locally. But anyway, I received my GH3 body a few days ago from Photo Continental in Brisbane, $1,299 which was same price as US and that included GST of 10%. This was an excellent price and they brought it in for me.

    First few shots are now done, I only kept a couple of lenses from my GH2 days... but they are in my opinion some of the best. Lumix 14-140mm, 14-45mm, 7-14mm and I have ordered the 100-300mm.

    After owning the OMD for 3 weeks, I sold it and the kit lens and ordered the GH3. No regrets, I just found the OMD too fiddly and tiny for my hands.. the GH3 is perfect in my hand, feels similar to the A77 as far as security in the grip.

    How does it work? I find the JPG output so close to the OMD that it is not worth testing, 6400iso is no problem... on the other hand, the A77 had problems with that speed. Hope to get out this weekend and do some serious shotting, but for now... quick shot out the front windshield driving to work of the sunrise.. at 100kph...just a fun shot.

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    > I just found the OMD too fiddly and tiny for my hands.

    +1 and I have small hands
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    GH3 with 2.5/14

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    GH3, Vario 14-45 with polarizer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Why did we not use the 35-100mm? We used two cameras and the 35-100mm was mounted to our GH2. Two 35-100mm zooms would be welcome but also quite expensive.
    Yeah. I sold some personal gear and bought the 12-35/2.8 for my GH2, thinking I'd use it as a carry-around camera at work and as my main travel/personal system. My lovely wife tried the zoom a couple of times, and now it's permanently attached to her new G5.

    So I guess I need to either suck it up and buy another one, or just use my trio of primes.

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    I've had my GH3 for one month and I'm really pleased with it.

    From yesterday at the park, all taken with the 100-300 ...


    20130622 a024 by Ronald S. Smith, on Flickr


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    Reviewed all the pages in this thread, very nice. Anybody got a vertical grip? What are your thoughts? My pinky finger hurts a bit after all-day shooting, I thought the grip would help. I have small hands.

    I concur with some who shifted from OMD to GH3, the OMD albeit very nice and retro, and probably has better skin tones than the GH3, but I never really connected with its controls and ergonomics side. Never owned an EM5 though.

    All taken with 35-100 under less-than-ideal stormy weather, the weather-sealing of both lens and the body proved to be useful.

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    Certainly nothing wrong with those skin tones, lovely images of lovely subjects...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matix View Post
    Certainly nothing wrong with those skin tones, lovely images of lovely subjects...

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    Phil, thanks!
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    Thanks for the likes.

    Here's another set with the 35-100:

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    GH3, 20 1.7:

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    Re: The GH3 and Pana Leica 35mm 1.4

    I could not be happier with this combination, the GH3 is a winner in it's own right, but add the PL 25mm f1.4 lens and it is as good a camera that I need. Here are a few shots, winter colour in our garden in Brisbane QLD.

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    Olympus 45/1.8 on GH3


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    revisiting this 'ol thread... some random shots with the 20mm and been using "silent mode" a lot lately:

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    Sometimes the accidental shots work, made me smile for sure..

    Now and then, the old statement of 'The best camera is the one you have with you when needed' or is it, 'The best Lens is the one you have on the camera when needed?' sure came to mind with this shot.

    I was just messing with the GH3 and my faithful original 14-140mm Lumix on the weekend, light was great so wandered the garden, shooting a few shots of my Crucifix Orchid blooms.. a tiny flower, each perhaps 18mm with several in a spray.

    The individual flowers remind me of Beaker, the little guy from the Muppets. So, as I said.. took a few shots, then when checking the results later I noted one tiny flower had a visitor.. not easily seen with the naked eye and I was not looking that closely anyway.

    This shot is a 90% crop, hand held with a lens that many say is average.. worked for me, as it has many times before.. just a fun shot at 140mm.

    A 'Hey... You looking at ME?' moment.

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    Typhoon Yolanda (Haiyan) aftermath, used GH3 and 12-35 for most of the times and didn't find any need for any other camera or lens...

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    Tacloban Astrodome:


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    Pre-departure area of Tacloban DZR Airport:




    5 boats, mostly cargo ships, was moved by Yolanda from the pier to the roadside, ran through hundreds of shanties along the way:




    At the time of this writing, the 5 ships are still there:


    Translation: "Lord please forgive."


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    GH3 with the Olympus 75mm 1.8
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    Some shots with the PL45 + GH3 handheld:











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    (GH3 | 12-35)
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