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Fun with Panasonic GH3

ThePhotoSoup

New member
Hey guys, so I just wanted to post some ISO samples of the GH3 with the 12-35mm f/2.8. These were taken RAW and left untouched then converted to jpeg(444).


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OJO

Guest
Any video Uwe?

Gary I can get you one if you like but make sure to contact me as quickly as possible.
 

ptomsu

Workshop Member
Uwe,

what are your impressions of the GH3 so far?

Compared to OMD?

Compared to APSC and/or FF?

Thanks

Peter
 

ptomsu

Workshop Member
Video:

http://jirvana.outbackphoto.com/x_out3/DOP3901.zip

https://vimeo.com/55230058

>Compared to OMD?

Handling is better on GH3, IQ is maybe slightly better on E-M5. The main image quality gain is actually in hte 12-35mm, 35-100mm zooms.

>Compared to APSC and/or FF?

I would love the NEX7 if there would be zooms like the fast Pana zooms.

In total I don't think I miss anything. GH3/GH2 are now our main kit.
Thanks!

Main reason I am asking is because I start thinking more and more to make m43 based on OMD and GH3 and some of the high level glass my main kit as well. It is extremely easy to handle and weight and size we all know the big advantages.

Still missing maybe 2 or 3 new fast lenses/primes which would be on par with the new 12-35 and 35-100 to make the final switch.
 

Jorgen Udvang

Subscriber Member
Thanks!

Main reason I am asking is because I start thinking more and more to make m43 based on OMD and GH3 and some of the high level glass my main kit as well. It is extremely easy to handle and weight and size we all know the big advantages.
The biggest budget airline around here, Air Asia, has started weighing carry-on luggage (max 7kg), since people were carrying too much to avoid the fee on checked in bags. My bag (Kata DR 467i) with clothing for three days, MBA 13", GH2 with 7-14, 14-45 and 75/1.8 plus all necessary chargers and cables went through at 7.2 kg. No DSLR kit with lenses of similar quality would have made it within the limit.
 

larkis

New member
I got the GH3 a couple of days ago including the extra grip. I like the camera so far but just like my GH2 it seems to lack auto iso when a manual lens is attached via an adapter. This is something the OMD-5 can do and I wonder why panasonic is refusing to add this feature. I want to be able to set a shutter speed in manual mode, an aperture on the lens itself and have the iso adjust itself accordingly.

Also, has anyone figured out how to set the lower limit of the shutter speed in program mode ? Often times it defaults to 1/60 with a lens wide open while the iso is not hitting the upper limit I have set. I would rather have the shutter speed be 1/125 or higher and the iso hit my upper limit than a to low shutter speed which produces a blurry photo.

This would all be solved if auto iso in manual mode existed.
 

ustein

Contributing Editor
From your review:

>I find the lack of the click wheel somewhat annoying but maybe it’s something I will get used to over time.

I like the GH3 much better (maybe because I also use the Nikons a lot). One dial for one function is much better than the click dual function.
 

Paratom

Well-known member
It's usually very slight, but it's there. It's the difference one can often only see by comparing the AF result with the human adjusted correction in MF. Sometimes it's bigger and can be seen in the files but this could easily be mistaken for a bit (1 pixel or so) of camera shake or just a naturally soft lens. So if you're not checking by MF you're probably just thinking that's how it's supposed to look.

But we're asking the camera to both do the impossible by reading our minds and also go beyond it's physical limits too. It can't actually read our minds so for one example when the AF box is the size of our subject (say, a coffee mug on a table) selecting which part it should focus on (the front, the upper lip, the lower seat, the outline edge, the handle, the rear rim lip) is just random chance or maybe the part with the strongest contrast. Same with a face when not in face detection mode. It won't know if it should focus on the tip of the nose or the stray hairs from the pony-tail in back. The AF systems in the GH1 and 2 are extremely limited and can almost NEVER achieve "critical focus". This is well known by many.

It does also sometimes get the entire shot (or mug in our previous example) wrong. This is true with the OM-D, 3 different GH2s that I've used and a countless (8 or 10) GH1s - also several of the other Olympus µ4/3 models too. It's just the nature of the beast. If you never half-press plus re-half-press your shutter release button when it doesn't focus satisfactorily the first time you will get a large number of images which are out of focus - mostly only slightly but sometimes enough to be bothersome too. These count as misses even if you didn't go ahead and capture the image the first time.

Then there are the mechanics of the DOF range which compounds the errors mentioned above. If you're shooting with a typical µ4/3 zoom or any of the slower-ish primes there is a huge margin for error between where the optimal focus setting actually is and what the AF system comes up with. Any of these alone or combined may be within your own personal tolerances but it's not perfectly accurate. In my case 4 out of 5 AF attempts are outside my personal tolerance levels and noticeable to me. So much so that I usually prefer to shoot adapted mechanical manual-focus lenses.

The way in which a DSLR usually works is different. The AF areas (points!) are smaller and MUCH more precise. On consumer grade DSLRs there are usually a lot less of these points which leaves a lot of margin for error in between them. So it is in concept and so it is in practice. Thus my distinction between consumer grade and pro bodies.

No AF is perfect. Pro body AF can often be very good but still has faults. Consumer grade DSLR AF and µ4/3 AF is problematic for all but the most casual styles or high personal tolerance levels. That the GH3 might be better than the GH2 and I would hope the OM-D as well, is good news IMO. However, I won't be expecting a perfect AF system on any camera anytime in the foreseeable future. Unfortunate but true I'm afraid.
The (too) big AF point has been allways something I dislike with the OMD. Face recognition helps here, but it is not a 100% hit rate.
And even one generally uses lenses wich do not produce the shallow DOF like fast lenses on ff.
The gh1 had allready a smaller AF-point than the OMD.
If gh3 AF-point is even smaller this would be quite an advantage IMO.

By the way the AF of the D700 and D3 I had worked very accurate, and the one of the 5diii also does a pretty good job. But then those cameras are much bigger and more expensive than m4/3.
Other than the big focus point I find the AF speed of the OMD pretty impressive. Is the GH3 as fast?
 

ustein

Contributing Editor
This time we used the Panasonic 14-140mm zoom. Results are ok but clearly not as good as using the 35-100mm f/2.8 zoom. Why did we not use the 35-100mm? We used two cameras and the 35-100mm was mounted to our GH2. Two 35-100mm zooms would be welcome but also quite expensive.















Some more here:

Panasonic GH3 - Digital Outback Photo
 
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