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    It's all YOUR fault!!!

    Or rather this forum's fault

    Went to Keeble and Shuchat today with my kids and came home with a G1, both zooms and an extra battery. Hope to get some images to post soon!

    PS: I understand there is soon to be a C-Mount adapter? Some sweet old movie glass around if that is the case!

    PPS: Went to do the firmware update, and FWIW when they say you need to have a fully-charged battery, they mean it. The update won't go unless the battery is full
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    Beat me again.
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    Well done! It is a fun camera!

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    I'm ready to trade my Oly 520 and 14-54 for a G1. I wanna have fun too.
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    Got to admit, this thing is pretty darn sweet!
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    I love mine! Had my first real chance today to put it through paces and it was a blast.

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    congrats and enjoy!!

    i am still waiting on my 45-200 and the m adapter, but the 14-45 is a sweet lens.

    i also picked up an extra battery locally and got 20% off due to a sale.

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    Jack, what was their price? Amazon was offering them pretty cheap today...

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    Re: It's all YOUR fault!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Or rather this forum's fault

    Went to Keeble and Shuchat today with my kids and came home with a G1, both zooms and an extra battery. Hope to get some images to post soon!

    PS: I understand there is soon to be a C-Mount adapter? Some sweet old movie glass around if that is the case!

    PPS: Went to do the firmware update, and FWIW when they say you need to have a fully-charged battery, they mean it. The update won't go unless the battery is full
    rabenwolf has been selling some lens and adapters together on eBay. I suspect there will be more sources in the future. I'm kicking my self for not picking up a 16mm Bolex with four lenses that went for 135 dollars at an estate auction last September.

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    Jack, i'm Confused
    Is the G1 for one of the Girls or YOU .....

    Congrats & Enjoy
    It seems to be a Winner

    best-H

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    I've barely been able to hold out buying one myself. I love playing with it in the store and I keep reading all the great reviews and comments from all of you. I'm going to have to stop reading the forums if I'm going to make it another month without getting one and some lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhakti-rider View Post
    Jack, what was their price? Amazon was offering them pretty cheap today...
    I'd have to check -- I think they matched B&H -- there was a lot of stuff on that invoice LOLOL! I like to do business with them because they are local and so nice to deal with. Plus I buy so much from them they always seem to take care good of me
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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Jack, i'm Confused
    Is the G1 for one of the Girls or YOU .....

    Congrats & Enjoy
    It seems to be a Winner

    best-H
    M O I !!!!!

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    They have been going for $600 all day long from some camera outfit in Canada that sells on eBay. That is the BuyIt Now price, when they have auctions some have been going for around the $450 to $475 mark!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cledry View Post
    They have been going for $600 all day long from some camera outfit in Canada that sells on eBay. That is the BuyIt Now price, when they have auctions some have been going for around the $450 to $475 mark!
    Its prodigital. Lots of people have been buying from them for the past couple of weeks and the prices have been really good on the auctions. Shipping is $$30 on the auctions--free shipping on the buy it now.

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    I have to admit I'm tempted as well. I bought one for my g/f and she's been shooting with it since yesterday. It is quite an amazing little system. Now she wants the long lens as well. It seems to be a perfect "travel" setup. I love the articulated screen as I often frame shots that I can't see through a viewfinder.

    I've had bad thoughts of selling my Pentax stuff, getting an a900 with a couple of Zeiss lenses along the the G1 for going light to go along with the DLux4. Then I'd have small/med/large covered. Arrghhh.....

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    Good luck with your new toy

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    I've had bad thoughts of selling my Pentax stuff, getting an a900 with a couple of Zeiss lenses along the the G1 for going light to go along with the DLux4. Then I'd have small/med/large covered. Arrghhh.....
    Yep . . . . and I'm teetering on the brink of the DLux4 (already have the G1 and the a900 with the zeiss).

    It makes a compelling trio, although, of course, you also need an M8 for party time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Or rather this forum's fault

    Went to Keeble and Shuchat today with my kids and came home with a G1, both zooms and an extra battery....
    Well, of all the trade-ins I´ve heard of....

    Poor kids....

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    I received my Novoflex adapter yesterday, and it's been fun trying different M lenses on it.

    The adapter is a little tight, might need the slightest smear of vaseline on it; you cannot change lenses with the adapter still on the camera because the button to release the lens can only be depressed when off the camera. I'm going to look at what's involved to fix it, but I hope John Milich's adapter will allow this.

    As for lenses, the 50/1.4 and 75/2 are great short tele's; the 90/4 is a really handy 180/4 equivalent and can collapse.

    The only lens I have which is a problem is the 50mm Elmar, cannot collapse, of course.

    All the wide-angles, WATE through to 35/1.4, mount OK

    When you see the puny "zoom" ratio of the WATE in Live View, you wonder why they bothered and didn't just go for a lower cost 16/4 or 18/2.8.

    Focussing through the Nocti is great, sharper images than I ever get on the M8, you can really see the plane of focus moving through the subject field.

    I do hope that Leica are trying this for themselves and realise that they need to come to this particular party. An M9 with the same focussing arrangements will be a case of "new bottle, same dreary old vintage".

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    Quote Originally Posted by marknorton View Post
    I do hope that Leica are trying this for themselves and realise that they need to come to this particular party. An M9 with the same focussing arrangements will be a case of "new bottle, same dreary old vintage".
    Hi Mark
    I do so agree - I'd hate to lose the bright viewfinder with framelines . . but no need for the rangefinder focus patch - simply an overlay with focus confirmation and accurate framelines based on the lens used (including zooms of course). you could then have live view, and there would be room for another window for the EVF . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Per Ofverbeck View Post
    Well, of all the trade-ins I´ve heard of....

    Poor kids....
    LOL

    Jack you better hurry back there and buy back your kids.

    Congrats

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    Hi Mark
    I do so agree - I'd hate to lose the bright viewfinder with framelines . . but no need for the rangefinder focus patch - simply an overlay with focus confirmation and accurate framelines based on the lens used (including zooms of course). you could then have live view, and there would be room for another window for the EVF . . .
    Well there's an interesting thought, two viewfinders, one for rangefinder with focus confirmation based on AF evaluation of a sample of the live view sensor, a second for the EVF for those times when you need WYSIWYG.

    Lots of thinking out of the box here. My original thinking was to try to ape the M viewfinder, rangefinder patch and all but that just leads us to a pastiche of the original.

    I'm finding focussing with the EVF a breeze on the longer/faster lenses and a faster access to focus assist mode would things better for wides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Or rather this forum's fault

    Went to Keeble and Shuchat today with my kids and came home with a G1, both zooms and an extra battery. Hope to get some images to post soon!
    Congratulations Jack
    Now you can have loads of fun!
    Then you can try and work out where it fits in amongst your other gear (the trouble I'm going through right now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Congratulations Jack
    Now you can have loads of fun!
    Then you can try and work out where it fits in amongst your other gear (the trouble I'm going through right now).
    Did you enjoy having the G1 with you on the ski trip? Did you ski with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marknorton View Post
    I received my Novoflex adapter yesterday, and it's been fun trying different M lenses on it.

    The adapter is a little tight, might need the slightest smear of vaseline on it; you cannot change lenses with the adapter still on the camera because the button to release the lens can only be depressed when off the camera. I'm going to look at what's involved to fix it, but I hope John Milich's adapter will allow this.
    Mark, I plan on filing down the offending pin to allow the adapter to be left on the camera. Doesn't look too difficult.

    All the wide-angles, WATE through to 35/1.4, mount OK
    I'm curious, what other wide angles have you tried?

    Focussing through the Nocti is great, sharper images than I ever get on the M8, you can really see the plane of focus moving through the subject field.
    Bokeh previewer.

    The G1 is just plain fun to use. I only have minor quibbles with it; for one, I'd like manual focus to be a single button press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Did you enjoy having the G1 with you on the ski trip? Did you ski with it?
    Hi Terry
    I did (both enjoy and ski with it).
    BUT
    Truth is, I couldn't put it in a pocket, so it needed a small backpack, and if I was going to have a small backpack I might as well stick an A900 or an M8 with a couple of lenses in it (after all, a kilo or two extra doesn't matter much when zooming down the piste).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Terry
    I did (both enjoy and ski with it).
    BUT
    Truth is, I couldn't put it in a pocket, so it needed a small backpack, and if I was going to have a small backpack I might as well stick an A900 or an M8 with a couple of lenses in it (after all, a kilo or two extra doesn't matter much when zooming down the piste).
    Well, perhaps when there is a pancake it will fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Well, perhaps when there is a pancake it will fit.
    No . . . at least, it might fit, but one really doesn't want something like that to bang against ribs when falling, and anyway, having a fixed focal length lens when skiing is not that useful, you tend either to want wide or long(ish) telephoto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    No . . . at least, it might fit, but one really doesn't want something like that to bang against ribs when falling, and anyway, having a fixed focal length lens when skiing is not that useful, you tend either to want wide or long(ish) telephoto.
    You fall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Per Ofverbeck View Post
    Well, of all the trade-ins I´ve heard of....

    Poor kids....
    GOOD ONE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    GOOD ONE!
    Wow, am I slow. I had to go back and read the original post--and I agree---GOOD one LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    You fall?
    You Don't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Congratulations Jack
    Now you can have loads of fun!
    Then you can try and work out where it fits in amongst your other gear (the trouble I'm going through right now).
    Thanks Jono.

    My current thinking is it fills in where a smaller camera like the LX3 doesn't work for me. IOW, a bring-it-everywhere camera that doesn't break my back to carry or the bank if I drop it in the ocean, yet with image quality good enough to hold up at say 15x20 print sizes. So far, I think this camera fits that slot pretty darn well. (But I'll still carry my GRD2 with me everywhere too!)

    Will it "replace" an M8 for travel or street? No, don't think so, but it may make a very nice compliment to it in the travel bag, especially with a G1 to M lens adapter (). And on its own, certainly a notch up form a smaller P&S camera, and a lot less weight and bulk than a larger DSLR. Plus, it's pretty quiet and its diminutive size and flip-out rear LCD make it pretty darn stealthy .

    Will it replace a higher-speed DSLR like the D700 or 50D? Again probably not if you need the framerate or the extra stop or two of ISO. But for the occasional photograph-my-kids-at-a-sporting-event, and maybe get at least two or three keepers, probably.

    Will it serve for the occasional Aunt-Edna-birthday-party-shoot better than a smaller P&S? Absolutely.

    But it won't fit in a shirt pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    You Don't?
    Last time I went skiing was about 15 years ago and I got run over by a snow boarder in Verbier and it took my knee out of commission long enough to lose interest cold weather and clomping around in ski boots.

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    What raw converter are you guys using? I have updated the camera firmware and installed all the latest Adobe updates, but ACR cannot open the G1 raws...

    ???
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    Jack,

    ACR from PS CS4 will open G1 RAWs. I'm using LR2.2 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    I'm curious, what other wide angles have you tried?
    These are the wides I've tried:

    WATE
    21/2.8 ASPH
    24/2.8 ASPH
    28/2 ASPH
    35/2 Summicron IV
    35/1.4 ASPH

    All fine, I agree with you about the pin, best done by dismantling it I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    I only have minor quibbles with it; for one, I'd like manual focus to be a single button press.
    Yes, the ability to use the Function button for this purpose would be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Goh View Post
    Jack,

    ACR from PS CS4 will open G1 RAWs. I'm using LR2.2 though.
    Well it isn't working in ACR 5.2 from the Mac and I don't use LR...
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    Here you go Jack. ACR5.2 Macbook Pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Well it isn't working in ACR 5.2 from the Mac and I don't use LR...

    Okay, got it working. For Mac, had to do the manual install then had to place the NEW CameraRaw plug-in file into the Library/ApplicationSupport/Adobe/plugins/file formats --- FWIW...


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    I succumbed today too--only mine should be here next week. I've already processed some dled RAW files in LR 2.2 and printed up to 11 x 17, handled one about a week ago, so decided it was time.

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    It's just infectious isn't it?

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    Having now worked with the two kit lenses I'm craving more options native to the MFT format. I won't buy Leica lenses (I have none and don't see a reason to invest just for the G1) and I'm not ready to buy the FT adaptor to use with my Olympus lenses. I would love a fast prime and a macro lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewteee View Post
    Having now worked with the two kit lenses I'm craving more options native to the MFT format. I won't buy Leica lenses (I have none and don't see a reason to invest just for the G1) and I'm not ready to buy the FT adaptor to use with my Olympus lenses. I would love a fast prime and a macro lens.
    Look into the Voigtlander lenses. They are inexpensive and are quite good.

    The 35mm f2.5 color skopar is a great little lens which give you a nice 70mm for $229

    If you want to go faster the 28mm f1.9 is about $444


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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Look into the Voigtlander lenses. They are inexpensive and are quite good.

    The 35mm f2.5 color skopar is a great little lens which give you a nice 70mm for $229

    If you want to go faster the 28mm f1.9 is about $444


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    Re: It's all YOUR fault!!!

    Heck, there are so many lenses, not enough time. Some nice Canon FD gems go for nothing, buy them now before people find out they will work on the G1 and the price goes up.

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    Re: It's all YOUR fault!!!

    I'm feeling a bit pressurised here; as a TOBY I couldn't get one in black, yet I have only seen the twin lens set in black. Are there twin lens sets in red [in the UK]?
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    Re: It's all YOUR fault!!!

    I don't have one yet either, but it's getting harder to resist. I'm looking at the E-30 + lenses and I can't help but think I'm going the wrong direction.
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