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GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma
- Thread starter Jorgen Udvang
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Vivek
Guest
I welcome it! I am not someone who would refuse to buy a good camera if it is offered for a good price. I do not pride in my cameras as show pieces.
Lower the price, the better!
jonoslack
Active member
HI Vivek
I wouldn't do it with an E-M1 either, but I bet the Leica would do just as well. (incidentally, it was this video that prompted my response).
. . . . I have had the M in torrential rain, and not covered, on a number of occasions, without issue.
jonoslack
Active member
Quite wrong - you have a perfect excuse . . .We are never too serious here, are we
If I should consider a long 4/3 lens for the E-M1, it would probably be the 150mm f/2. It's a beast of course, but the image quality it offers would make it worthwhile. Unfortunately, I lack a good excuse to buy one... fortunately
If you buy this lens, then you can sell your Nikon kit - all you need is the E-M1 with this (and a few other lenses) for the motorsport and other professional work, and the E-M1 and GX-7 for video and travel.
KerChung!
I would definitely recommend getting the 20/1.7 no matter which of the cameras you buy (but especially with the GX7). Mine has probably done about 80% of the photos I've made with the EM-5 (the rest with Oly 45/1.8 and a handful with Oly 12/2). The AF isn't painfully slow, but the PanaLeica 25/1.4 is substantially faster, which is why I have both.
kevinparis
Member
I had the opportunity to quickly play with both the EM-1 and the GX7 recently.... was never really in the market for the GX7, but had to try it after everybody seemed to be hyperventilating over it... I was really disappointed in the GX7 EVF...not very good in my opinion... but then again I had just looked through the E-M1 which is very good.
waiting to see whether Samys here in LA get their shipment of E-M1's in before we leave on wednesday
K
waiting to see whether Samys here in LA get their shipment of E-M1's in before we leave on wednesday
K
jonoslack
Active member
Oh! I do hope so - I want a play!I had the opportunity to quickly play with both the EM-1 and the GX7 recently.... was never really in the market for the GX7, but had to try it after everybody seemed to be hyperventilating over it... I was really disappointed in the GX7 EVF...not very good in my opinion... but then again I had just looked through the E-M1 which is very good.
waiting to see whether Samys here in LA get their shipment of E-M1's in before we leave on wednesday
K
kevinparis
Member
Knorp
Well-known member
Vivek, try this:Can't find it!
Link please!
Panasonic Lumix DMC GX7 Silver 16 0MP Digital Camera Body Warranty A4807 | eBay
It's in HKG.
Kind regards.
jonoslack
Active member
You always show me something new Kevin (even if it's only a great place to have supper!)
I already have a EM5. Should I upgrade? I understand the EVF/Screen is better, but the AF seems the same (I don't use 4/3 lenses and use continuous focus only rarely). To me the EM1 is quite ugly with the grip and is quite larger and heavier. How does it compare to K5II in terms of size?
I'm really having a hard debate here.
I'm really having a hard debate here.
kevinparis
Member
in the flesh it looks much better, and is only marginally larger and perhaps heavier than an em5 with the the upper part of the grip
if you don't need the 4/3 support and you are happy with your em5 then i would invest in glass rather than upgrading
K
Brian Mosley
New member
I suspect there will be an upgrade from the E-M5 in due course, the E-M1 has a different character - despite being about the same size plus grip, the ergonomics are improved significantly, and the EVF is also much improved.
Size and ergonomics are both a high priority for me - perhaps the E-M6 will hit the sweetspot for both, but in the meantime, the E-P5 kit with 17mm f1.8 + EVF and E-M1 with mZD PRO 12-40mm f2.8 will make a dream combination.
Good luck
Brian
scott kirkpatrick
Well-known member
Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's taking longer than it might have
My E-M1 is on order at B&H, which originally posted a ship date of Oct 4. Amazon, which tends to be conservative so that they get the credit if things speed up, said Oct 14. Now I see that B&H no longer posts any ship date at all. This is familiar. I went through six weeks of delays in getting an E-P5 from a big Internet retailer, while they were available from small guys standing behind their counters weeks earlier.
Fortunately, I have an [...240], not to be spoken in this forum, which will meet me in New Mexico in two weeks. And an LER/LEM adapter with one white dot!
scott
My E-M1 is on order at B&H, which originally posted a ship date of Oct 4. Amazon, which tends to be conservative so that they get the credit if things speed up, said Oct 14. Now I see that B&H no longer posts any ship date at all. This is familiar. I went through six weeks of delays in getting an E-P5 from a big Internet retailer, while they were available from small guys standing behind their counters weeks earlier.
Fortunately, I have an [...240], not to be spoken in this forum, which will meet me in New Mexico in two weeks. And an LER/LEM adapter with one white dot!
scott
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Jorgen Udvang
Subscriber Member
Tried the LX7 today. Wonderful camera, and feels much more compact than the E-M1. But... I need the E-M1 first, and I can just as well start selling off my Nikon gear. It won't see any use when the Olympus arrives anyway. The Panasonic will probably lose value fast so picking up one for 50-60% of the current price should be possible in less than six months, unless I simply keep the GH2 for backup.
Interestingly, my dealer told me that he only has pre-orders for around 15 cameras, as opposed to more than 50 when the Fuji X-Pro1 was launched. There are probably too many users around who are more than happy with their E-M5 cameras, and many who feel that they don't really need this upgrade. In many ways, it's closer to a Nikon D4 than to the smaller Olympus.
Interestingly, my dealer told me that he only has pre-orders for around 15 cameras, as opposed to more than 50 when the Fuji X-Pro1 was launched. There are probably too many users around who are more than happy with their E-M5 cameras, and many who feel that they don't really need this upgrade. In many ways, it's closer to a Nikon D4 than to the smaller Olympus.
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Vivek
Guest
Bart, Thank you!
Jorgen Udvang
Subscriber Member
The price of the GH3 just fell to $1,000 here. That would make a wonderful pair with the E-M1; one for photo, one for video and both can do either. This is getting complicated
Yes, I do have a GH1 and a GH2 as well... :loco:
Yes, I do have a GH1 and a GH2 as well... :loco:
Jorgen Udvang
Subscriber Member
I'm now officially a nutcase :loco:The price of the GH3 just fell to $1,000 here. That would make a wonderful pair with the E-M1; one for photo, one for video and both can do either. This is getting complicated
Yes, I do have a GH1 and a GH2 as well... :loco:
That GH3 price was for one body which was apparently being returned from a customer in "like new" condition. I'm picking it up next week and have changed my E-M1 order to kit with 12-40 mm since I'll need that lens sooner or later anyway, and with delivery in November or whenever the lens arrives. The GH2 is up for sale, and although it's my most used camera, build quality has been a constant worry.
Not anymore. When both the new cameras arrive, I will have the best stills and the best video camera this size, both weather sealed, both loaded with features, both with excellent ergonomics and both able to work as backup for each other. The combined weight of the two is almost exactly the same as for my D700 body which I will sell also.
Where is that PanaLeica 42.5 mm, I wonder
Yes, you can manually focus, but you can manually focus lots of cameras that way. That is besides the point- the point is the GX7 can focus in real dark (to give you a reference the E-3/E-5 were rated down to focus on -2EV. The new K-5II can focus down to -3 EV - moonlight).
Again, it depends on the photography you are doing. There are many types of paid professional photographers.
For example, a wedding photographer could very well find the focusing of a GX7 better because of what I just mentioned. That said, an EM1 would look (because of the looks) better in that scenario, even if it may not perform as good as (reception at night) in focus.
Like the EM1, the focusing on the GX7 is hyper fast, for a lot of work in overlap they both can do it. Having the GX7 being able to photograph in lower light, focusing fast *and silent* can also be a big pro once again- depending on what kind of photography you are doing. (yes, I am talking about pro paid too).
- Ricardo