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    GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    When the GX7 was launched, I was impressed and somewhat surprised. Panasonic seemed to have gotten most things right on this camera, and I was tempted.

    When the E-M1 was launched, it was the obvious choice. It can replace all of my Nikon gear except the D700 with some primes, and in the real world, with some extra investments, maybe that one too. But whatever way I look at it, it will cost money. So I started looking at what each camera offers and what my real needs are. Here it is:

    OM-1
    - Better AF
    - Will AF with my PanaLeica 14-50mm
    - Weather sealed
    - Superior IBIS
    - Better ergonomics
    - Vertical grip option
    - Deeper buffer
    - Faster frame rate
    - Looks more "professional"
    - Better image quality (slightly)

    GX7
    - Smaller size, not so much, but enough to make it fit in a cargo or coat pocket.
    - Better video
    - Built-in flash
    - Tiltable EVF
    - Shares battery and charger with my GH2
    - Looks less "professional"
    - Lower price

    Objectively speaking, I'm sure the Olympus is the better camera, and it should be. It's 40% more expensive. But the advantages of the Olympus are typically features that I would value when doing action and event photography, which I don't do much of these days. For travel and general photography, the GX7 is at least as well suited, often better.

    And: The Zuiko 40-150 mm isn't out yet, making a Zuiko 50-200 4/3 a necessity. For paid work, I would need an Olympus backup body also.

    It's tempting to buy a GX7 and use the Nikon gear till it starts dying, but maybe I'm just too scared to jump

    The jury will be working hard on this
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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    And ... the GX7 body is available in silver too

    Whatever your taste: choose wisely ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    When the GX7 was launched, I was impressed and somewhat surprised. Panasonic seemed to have gotten most things right on this camera, and I was tempted.

    When the E-M1 was launched, it was the obvious choice. It can replace all of my Nikon gear except the D700 with some primes, and in the real world, with some extra investments, maybe that one too. But whatever way I look at it, it will cost money. So I started looking at what each camera offers and what my real needs are. Here it is:

    OM-1
    - Better AF
    - Will AF with my PanaLeica 14-50mm
    - Weather sealed
    - Superior IBIS
    - Better ergonomics
    - Vertical grip option
    - Deeper buffer
    - Faster frame rate
    - Looks more "professional"
    - Better image quality (slightly)

    GX7
    - Smaller size, not so much, but enough to make it fit in a cargo or coat pocket.
    - Better video
    - Built-in flash
    - Tiltable EVF
    - Shares battery and charger with my GH2
    - Looks less "professional"
    - Lower price

    Objectively speaking, I'm sure the Olympus is the better camera, and it should be. It's 40% more expensive. But the advantages of the Olympus are typically features that I would value when doing action and event photography, which I don't do much of these days. For travel and general photography, the GX7 is at least as well suited, often better.

    And: The Zuiko 40-150 mm isn't out yet, making a Zuiko 50-200 4/3 a necessity. For paid work, I would need an Olympus backup body also.

    It's tempting to buy a GX7 and use the Nikon gear till it starts dying, but maybe I'm just too scared to jump

    The jury will be working hard on this
    Well Jorgen, not sure where you can buy a digital OM-1 with AF etc. today?

    Please be specific, I will immediately get one

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Two threads:

    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-c...m-f-2-8-a.html

    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-c...my-camera.html

    and no decision?

    Let me add here that I may buy a GX7 down the road when the price drops to my liking. I have the cash right now and they are available in readlily here. I want it for a good price and I know the prices plummet quickly. I am in no rush.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Omd lcd tlts
    You can tap lcd to focus and snap pic
    Those two features are excellent

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    I suspect that after the holiday season this year, which is not that far away, both the new Panny and Olympus will have lost at least 20% of their value, and will be on sale. No early adoption for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    Omd lcd tlts
    You can tap lcd to focus and snap pic
    Those two features are excellent
    You can do this on the GX7, too.

    About the AF, some reviews put the GX7 faster than the EM1...but I'd say it pretty much depends on the lens.

    Both are great cameras.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Tapping LCD to focus is old news when it comes to Panasonic cams.

    Faster AF on EM1 over the GX7 is a myth. There are only claims out there with no proof.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Tapping LCD to focus is old news when it comes to Panasonic cams.

    Faster AF on EM1 over the GX7 is a myth. There are only claims out there with no proof.
    Be fair Vivek, faster AF on the E-M1 is a defining feature. Unless the GX7 also has on-sensor pdaf?

    It's a strange comparison though, since they are so different ergonomically.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Brian, Are there any tests out there to prove one focuses faster than the other?

    What we have about the "defining feature" is based on what Olympus say.

    Olympus cams (feature or no feature- until the EM-5, there were no integrated EVF, for example) had always been more expensive than the ones from Pana.

    Sure the feature sets are very different as well as the form and size.

    I am not disputing that the EM and the GX are at the forefront of m43rds being the latest.

    BTW, it is the rich feature set in the GX7 that makes me wait. I really do not need the several dozen features on a compact cam. First, I do not want spend dozens of hours to figure out what is what and even if I do, it is highly unlikely that I would ever use even a fraction of them.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Well Jorgen, not sure where you can buy a digital OM-1 with AF etc. today?

    Please be specific, I will immediately get one
    Ah... E-M1 of course. I'm lost in the past

    Yes, they are very different cameras. The E-M1 would be a perfect replacement for my Nikons, but until there is a longer large aperture telephoto lens available, they can't, so I would have to keep the Nikons for many applications anyway. When I remove paid jobs, the question is if the GX7 is a better camera for whatever is left, like travelling.

    Another question is: My D2Xs is now moving towards 5% of its original value, which is a joke. It's still a fantastic camera, and it doesn't really make any sense selling it.
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    I try to keep all this stuff simple.

    Love the style of the GX7 and its comparative simplicity.

    The control ergonomics and support for my FT lenses is better with the E-M1. So I ordered one. If I want a compact system camera that takes the same lenses, I'll get an E-P5 body. It's the sane thing to do as it has most of the same features/menus/batteries/remotes/etc.

    That's it for me.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Been thinking a bit more about this, and what it boils down to is:

    - I've been wanting a more compact m4/3 camera for some time now, but the models available have been lacking i specs, particularly the lack of a built-in EVF. The GX7 takes care of all that and more.

    - I always question the need for an upgrade. Although the E-M1 is a more advanced camera than my Nikons in almost every possible way, the images I take won't change. When I do paid work, size and weight mostly isn't an issue, and when I'm out there with my eye glued to the viewfinder, the only technical thing I care about is that the camera works and all the buttons are where they were the last time I used it.

    When the Panasonic 42.5mm and the Zuiko 40-150mm are released, the system will be more complete and useable for my needs. I don't see myself buying more 4/3 lenses to fill the gap when I have a fully functional Nikon setup already, particularly since selling it won't contribute much to the new system.

    At the moment, it's a toss. I'll try the GX7 on Tuesday

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    Always better to try things out in hand first. Ergonomics go a long way, and it's almost impossible to get a sense without having one in person.

    But I think you're right about event vs. travel photography being a differentiating theme between the two. E-M1 = pro look, 4/3 glass AF, faster burst, vertical grip. GX7 = more portable, inconspicuous, silent mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Ah... E-M1 of course. I'm lost in the past

    Yes, they are very different cameras. The E-M1 would be a perfect replacement for my Nikons, but until there is a longer large aperture telephoto lens available, they can't, so I would have to keep the Nikons for many applications anyway. When I remove paid jobs, the question is if the GX7 is a better camera for whatever is left, like travelling.

    Another question is: My D2Xs is now moving towards 5% of its original value, which is a joke. It's still a fantastic camera, and it doesn't really make any sense selling it.
    You arte right Jorgen! It would be actually good to buy cameras like D2X right now for the low price they are offered. I do have a general feeling that also my Nikon D800E will get used less over mid term future, as lenses are too expensive and weight/size is becoming more an issue for me. I am shooting wildlife, family and also prefer a light and compact travel cam (compared to FF DSLRs) - so the EM1 is the m43 camera which will do the job I think.

    I will of course wait for the 2.8/40-150, which would then replace a Nikkor 2.8/300 which I actually never bought because of price. And adding the 1.2/42 this would give a highly useable 1.4/85 FF replacement. Add the 1.8/75 this would give a pretty good, almost perfect overall system and make the Nikon pretty obsolete for me - I must say I do not need the 36MP for what I am shooting.

    So over time (in maybe 2 years) the Olympus m43 based on a EM1 (or next iteration( could become my only system left. For higher quality, better features and much less wight and money! Looks pretty promising.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Ummm... now, they offer a GX kit with the revised 20mm f/1.7 for around $250 more than body only. That lens retails for $500 here, and I don't have a "normal" prime for m4/3. Hmmmm....

    Difference between the 2 cameras was $500, but this increases it to $750. That's more than I would get for my more or less mint D2Xs should I decide to sell it. The weird, weird world of electronic gadgets... lol

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    the 20mm 1.7 does not sell for 500. Can be had for below 300 easily on the forum or on ebay. I got the 17.5mm and the 25mm 1.4. I wonder if the 20mm can replace both of them???

    Going back to topic. What if you already had a OMD EM5 and want to keep that as a back up body. THEN which one would you get? EM1 or GX7?

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by mmbma View Post
    the 20mm 1.7 does not sell for 500. Can be had for below 300 easily on the forum or on ebay.
    No you can not.

    The 20/1.7 II costs more.

    It is not just cameras that get updated often in m43rds but also the lenses, starting from the kit lenses.. there are different colored versions as well.

    The 20/1.7 I only came in one color version.

    The 20/1.7 II comes in 2 different (silver and black) colors.

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    What Vivek said, plus the version II has improved AF (a distinct weakness of the original version) and more solid build (metal instead of plastic).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    What Vivek said, plus the version II has improved AF (a distinct weakness of the original version) and more solid build (metal instead of plastic).
    Unfortunately it doesn't have improved AF according to all that I've read. Looks nice on the GX7 though!

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by ggibson View Post
    Unfortunately it doesn't have improved AF according to all that I've read. Looks nice on the GX7 though!
    You are right, although some still claim that there's a tiny improvement. It seems to be improved optically though, at least with regards to flare and contrast, so probably has an improved coating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
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    You can also do that with the GX7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Be fair Vivek, faster AF on the E-M1 is a defining feature. Unless the GX7 also has on-sensor pdaf?

    It's a strange comparison though, since they are so different ergonomically.

    Cheers

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    Just because you have PDAF on the sensor does not guarantee faster AF. Keep in mind the PDAF is only used in the Em1 for 4/3rds compatibility and for CDAF, not stills.

    Also the GX7 is rated to focus all the way down to -4EV which is superbly low light (Panasonic literally advertises it can focus in starlit dark). While you may not shoot in that dark usually, pretty much all cameras slow down focus speeds as they approach their dark focus limit. This means the Gx7 may very well focus faster in indoor situations, (party, wedding receptions, etc.).

    Of course that has to be tested but it sure looks like it could happen that way. So faster EM1 AF vs GX7 seems like it would depend on the situation and needs to be tested by an objective party.

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    Jorgen, it seems to me that for what you mentioned your needs are the GX7 is definitively the better match.

    One question though- you mentioned you do paid work. I would find better "customer on the field presence" with an EM1 -and in the "worst case if necessary"- an EM1 with the battery/portrait adapter to make it "grow" and "look more pro."

    It seems to me that if this is not an issue for your clients and your paid work, I would say go GX7. And before you do either, handle both of course.

    Just my 2 cents on your decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raist3d View Post
    Just because you have PDAF on the sensor does not guarantee faster AF. Keep in mind the PDAF is only used in the Em1 for 4/3rds compatibility and for CDAF, not stills.

    Also the GX7 is rated to focus all the way down to -4EV which is superbly low light (Panasonic literally advertises it can focus in starlit dark). While you may not shoot in that dark usually, pretty much all cameras slow down focus speeds as they approach their dark focus limit. This means the Gx7 may very well focus faster in indoor situations, (party, wedding receptions, etc.).

    Of course that has to be tested but it sure looks like it could happen that way. So faster EM1 AF vs GX7 seems like it would depend on the situation and needs to be tested by an objective party.

    - Ricardo
    Interesting about focusing in starlit darkness - I haven't seen any reports of the E-M1 performance in such low light, but on the E-P5 switching to magnified view and manual focus was necessary this evening ... followed by a 30 second exposure so focusing speed wasn't an issue.

    Fast continuous auto focus for moving subjects is obviously the headline feature, and will be a defining one for professional (paid) photographers.

    Cheers

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by raist3d View Post

    One question though- you mentioned you do paid work. I would find better "customer on the field presence" with an EM1 -and in the "worst case if necessary"- an EM1 with the battery/portrait adapter to make it "grow" and "look more pro."
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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    You are right, although some still claim that there's a tiny improvement. It seems to be improved optically though, at least with regards to flare and contrast, so probably has an improved coating.
    That is hopefully the case. But it is still plastic just like the 20/1.7 I (that also has a metal mount).

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    This is an unit focusing design and as a result is not a fast focusing lens like the 14/2.5. However, because it is unit focusing, it is also arguably the best lens the m43rds system has.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    This is an unit focusing design and as a result is not a fast focusing lens like the 14/2.5. However, because it is unit focusing, it is also arguably the best lens the m43rds system has.
    I don't see a problem with plastic, my original 20mm f1.7 is wearing nicely... Vivek, could you please expand on what you mean by 'unit focusing' and why you think that makes it the best lens the m4/3rds system has? It was certainly the first really nice lens we got IMHO.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Well, I still find it rather odd to be comparing the two cameras?

    Sure, they use the same lenses and have the same size sensor.
    The image quality won't be that different
    I'm sure they both focus quite fast enough . . . unless you want tracking focus.

    But if you're going to use it for professional still use, I wouldn't have thought the GX7 would last for 10 minutes (especially in the rain or under a tap )

    - and if you want a quality small compact camera with excellent video then the E-M1 certainly isn't it.

    There have been a lot of people comparing the Leica M(240) with the Sony RX-1

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Ah... E-M1 of course. I'm lost in the past

    Yes, they are very different cameras. The E-M1 would be a perfect replacement for my Nikons, but until there is a longer large aperture telephoto lens available, they can't, so I would have to keep the Nikons for many applications anyway. When I remove paid jobs, the question is if the GX7 is a better camera for whatever is left, like travelling.
    150 (300) f2?
    90-250 (180-500) f2.8?

    Seems that the E-M1 will cover all your bases, both for travel AND for sport.
    It'll do nice street photography in the pouring rain as well.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Agree. I love that 20/1.7. Still have it.

    Brian, The whole lens, as an unit, moves to focus. In case of the 14/2.5, only one element moves (IF = internal focusing) like many other lenses. The 14/2.5 does not increase its length while focusing (unlike the 20/1.7).

    Due to the mass to be moved to focus (and the distance), the unit focusing lenses such as the 20/1.7 are slower.

    OTOH, not all "unit focusing" lenses are automatically some special piece of optics. We have the utter crap 17/2.8 from Olympus to prove that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    I don't see a problem with plastic, my original 20mm f1.7 is wearing nicely... Vivek, could you please expand on what you mean by 'unit focusing' and why you think that makes it the best lens the m4/3rds system has? It was certainly the first really nice lens we got IMHO.

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    But if you're going to use it for professional still use, I wouldn't have thought the GX7 would last for 10 minutes (especially in the rain or under a tap )
    So, that rules out under the tap, kitchen sink photography with the GX7, just like any Leica M digital camera out there.
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    So, that rules out under the tap, kitchen sink photography with the GX7, just like any Leica M digital camera out there.
    No problem with the Leica M for kitchen sink photography Vivek - works fine, and the lenses don't seem to leak either.

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    Jono,
    The problem is that I would really like to have both, replacing the GH2 and GH1, GX7 for travel and video and E-M1 for everything else. As for the 4/3 lenses, I'm not sure if I want to wander down that path. Those telephoto lenses are rather large, and would make my setup as large and heavy as my current Nikon gear, although with better high ISO and a few other tricks. I'll try and compare both tomorrow.

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    Jorgen,

    if you only try one 4/3rds lens on the E-M1, make it the ZD 50-200mm f2.8-3.5

    p.s. That's me using one on the E-3 in my avatar. At least you get a decent lens hood!

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

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    Jono,
    The problem is that I would really like to have both, replacing the GH2 and GH1, GX7 for travel and video and E-M1 for everything else. As for the 4/3 lenses, I'm not sure if I want to wander down that path. Those telephoto lenses are rather large, and would make my setup as large and heavy as my current Nikon gear, although with better high ISO and a few other tricks. I'll try and compare both tomorrow.
    Well, I was being a little tongue in cheek - but as Brian says, the 50-200 is a great lens, not too expensive, and not too heavy either.

    I want the E-M1 for travel - but I realise the video ain't as good as the Panasonic.

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    No problem with the Leica M for kitchen sink photography Vivek - works fine, and the lenses don't seem to leak either.
    I am pretty sure that is incorrect.

    Jono, I bet that you will not do this with a Leica M set up: Olympus OMD EM1 Being Run Under Water by the Phoblographer - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Well, I was being a little tongue in cheek - but as Brian says, the 50-200 is a great lens, not too expensive, and not too heavy either.

    I want the E-M1 for travel - but I realise the video ain't as good as the Panasonic.

    Good Luck
    We are never too serious here, are we

    If I should consider a long 4/3 lens for the E-M1, it would probably be the 150mm f/2. It's a beast of course, but the image quality it offers would make it worthwhile. Unfortunately, I lack a good excuse to buy one... fortunately

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    I declare the DMC-GX7 bazaar open .
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    Can't find it!

    Link please!

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    I declare the DMC-GX7 bazaar open .
    I welcome it! I am not someone who would refuse to buy a good camera if it is offered for a good price. I do not pride in my cameras as show pieces.

    Lower the price, the better!

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I am pretty sure that is incorrect.

    Jono, I bet that you will not do this with a Leica M set up: Olympus OMD EM1 Being Run Under Water by the Phoblographer - YouTube
    HI Vivek
    I wouldn't do it with an E-M1 either, but I bet the Leica would do just as well. (incidentally, it was this video that prompted my response).


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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

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    We are never too serious here, are we

    If I should consider a long 4/3 lens for the E-M1, it would probably be the 150mm f/2. It's a beast of course, but the image quality it offers would make it worthwhile. Unfortunately, I lack a good excuse to buy one... fortunately
    Quite wrong - you have a perfect excuse . . .

    If you buy this lens, then you can sell your Nikon kit - all you need is the E-M1 with this (and a few other lenses) for the motorsport and other professional work, and the E-M1 and GX-7 for video and travel.

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    I would definitely recommend getting the 20/1.7 no matter which of the cameras you buy (but especially with the GX7). Mine has probably done about 80% of the photos I've made with the EM-5 (the rest with Oly 45/1.8 and a handful with Oly 12/2). The AF isn't painfully slow, but the PanaLeica 25/1.4 is substantially faster, which is why I have both.
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    I had the opportunity to quickly play with both the EM-1 and the GX7 recently.... was never really in the market for the GX7, but had to try it after everybody seemed to be hyperventilating over it... I was really disappointed in the GX7 EVF...not very good in my opinion... but then again I had just looked through the E-M1 which is very good.

    waiting to see whether Samys here in LA get their shipment of E-M1's in before we leave on wednesday :-)

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    Re: GX7 or E-M1, suddenly, it's a dilemma

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    I had the opportunity to quickly play with both the EM-1 and the GX7 recently.... was never really in the market for the GX7, but had to try it after everybody seemed to be hyperventilating over it... I was really disappointed in the GX7 EVF...not very good in my opinion... but then again I had just looked through the E-M1 which is very good.

    waiting to see whether Samys here in LA get their shipment of E-M1's in before we leave on wednesday :-)

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    Oh! I do hope so - I want a play!
    We are working on it. Could be a first where we get to show you something new!!!!

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    Can't find it!

    Link please!
    Vivek, try this:

    Panasonic Lumix DMC GX7 Silver 16 0MP Digital Camera Body Warranty A4807 | eBay

    It's in HKG.

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    We are working on it. Could be a first where we get to show you something new!!!!

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