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    Hello Olympus

    Have you noticed that Fuji have launched a firmware update for one of their cameras? It's not for one of the latest models, it's for a slightly older one, you know, kind of like the EM-5.
    You could do that sort of thing too, it wouldn't do brand loyalty any harm. Just sayin,
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    Re: Hello Olympus

    I have the X100, and personally felt a wave of gratitude and enhanced loyalty towards Fuji when they made this simple gesture. I can't imagine how valuable it must have been to the Fuji brand to put out a firmware update for a (relatively recent) previous generation camera.

    Come on Olympus, the E-M5 is a truly classic camera - your loyal user base is hoping you will give it the support it deserves.

    Kind regards

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    Re: Hello Olympus

    I will second everything Brian said.

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    Re: Hello Olympus

    What is it that you want to change, then ???
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    Re: Hello Olympus

    And I support all you all have said , but what we'd like to have changed I wonder

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    Re: Hello Olympus

    I would like Olympus to sell E-M1 seeds, so that I can grow E-M1 bodies in my garden, using chopped, older Olympus bodies as fertilizer
    Things I sell: https://www.shutterstock.com/g/epixx?language=en
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I would like Olympus to sell E-M1 seeds, so that I can grow E-M1 bodies in my garden, using chopped, older Olympus bodies as fertilizer
    What have you been smoking, Jørgen ?

    All the best.
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    Re: Hello Olympus

    Quote Originally Posted by les View Post
    Have you noticed that Fuji have launched a firmware update for one of their cameras? It's not for one of the latest models, it's for a slightly older one, you know, kind of like the EM-5.
    You could do that sort of thing too, it wouldn't do brand loyalty any harm. Just sayin,
    Sorry to damp your enthusiasm, but here is what Olympus-Chefdesigner Toshiyuki Terada answered to that suggestion :

    "Wann kommt ein Nachfolgemodell oder Upgrade zur E-M5? Könnte Olympus nicht ein Softwareupgrade für Geld anbieten?

    Ein E-M5 Nachfolger wird es erst in 2-3 Jahren geben. Ein Upgrade wird es nicht geben. Es entspricht nicht der Philosophie von Olympus Softwareupgrades für Geld anzubieten."


    Translation :
    Q : When will a successor or an upgrade of the E-M5 show up ? Could Olympus offer a paying software upgrade for the E-M5 ?
    A : A successor of the E-M5 will only appear in 2-3 years. There will be no software upgrading. It doesn't correspond to Olympus philosophy to offer paying software upgrades.

    PS : Keep in mind that there may be some language communication issues : Toshiyuki Terada from what I have got through YouTube interviews isn't very fluent in English and this interview is reported by a German speaker.. So there may be some interpretation glitches (and for full disclosure, this translation from German to English is made by a French speaker..).

    If you read German, the whole report published by SystemKamera.de is there :

    http://http://www.systemkamera-forum...erada-fotomax/

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    Re: Hello Olympus

    It's quite within the philosophy of Olympus to provide firmware updates free of charge to their loyal user base. There is also a precedent, where they added stabilisation for legacy lenses on the E-3.

    As for what they upgrade, I'll leave that to the product development team, who I'm sure are combing the forums and user groups for ideas (focus peaking was our campaign years ago... so we don't hold our breaths for specifics) - it's the principle which is important.

    Also, if this isn't already the case, I'd like to see camera manufacturers design their software so that it is easy for them to upgrade with ongoing developments.

    Finally, make it possible for 3rd parties to use wifi communications in their applications. That would be a great gesture.

    Cheers

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    Re: Hello Olympus

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    What have you been smoking, Jørgen ?

    All the best.
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    Re: Hello Olympus

    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    Translation :
    A : A successor of the E-M5 will only appear in 2-3 years. There will be no software upgrading. It doesn't correspond to Olympus philosophy to offer paying software upgrades.
    REAL Translation:

    Of course we're working on a successor to the E-M5. But, we don't want anyone to think about this while we're "making hay" with the E-M1. Once sales of that puppy tail off just a bit, we'll leak some details about the E-M6.

    What? The E-M5 isn't perfect? Anyway, the E-M6 team is too busy right now to think about an E-M5 software upgrade. However, if the board gets its knickers in a twist about public demand, then we'll pull a few resources off to do this.

    Charging for upgrades? You mean you'd pay for them? I must get our web people to add e-commerce to that section of the website.
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    Re: Hello Olympus

    Olympus has issued updates in the past, I'm sure they'll do so in the future.
    What do you want changed?

    It's funny, but I often just ignore updates if my camera is doing what I want. The latest M9 update has been out for a year but I haven't seen any reason to install it.

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    I'd hope that it might dawn on the company that a digital camera is in part a computer and that while hardware updates are not expected, software updates are quite common today. There is not a day passes when the Apps in my Nexus Tablet don't automatically receive several updates.
    Only a year or so ago this was a not inexpensive 'flagship' m4/3 product, and so 'tweaks' to keep pace with basic features provided by competitors, is surely not unreasonable.
    Everyone will have their own wish list - but focus peaking and a functional bracketing solution would probably be a reasonable start. It could be argued that functions like these should have been there from day one.
    I sense though that Olympus remains a company with a traditional outlook, who will hold improvements back until delivering a new product in a year or so.
    In this day and age perhaps that kind of reputation will be unhelpful when trying to shift large quantities of the new kit, when others offering similar gear are forging a reputation of a different kind.

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    Re: Hello Olympus

    E-M1 users in the UK are reporting lock-up problems in various scenarios but particularly when changing menu items and with C-AF, all with m4/3 lenses. The problem has been carefully analysed by experienced users and the general opinion seems to be a current drain versus available battery power issue as it is whilst changing several details in quick succession. Items such as Ibis C-AF etc have been lost before re-setting by removing the battery, re-inserting to return the camera to default settings

    I daresay that Olympus are busy finding a firmware solution to this serious problem before going back on what is now a very stable E-M5 platform. We are hoping that this might just be a particular batch problem.

    Either way, it might not be prudent to use 3rd party replacement batteries just yet!
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    Re: Hello Olympus

    Just read the above and realised just how an Aussie might read it!!

    "trust the b****y wingeing Poms to find something wrong with this excellent little camera"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I only smoke shredded camera brochures in rolled up, expired film. Does it show?
    Ow I see - smoking brochures, hey!
    For a moment I thought you had been smoking my mushrooms ...

    All the best
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    I don't know what they're doing that causes these lockups.

    I've been learning the e-m1 and changing settings constantly since I got it. Not a single lock up yet, and 450-500 exposures out of the first charge, another 400+ and the second charge is still going strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I don't know what they're doing that causes these lockups.

    I've been learning the e-m1 and changing settings constantly since I got it. Not a single lock up yet, and 450-500 exposures out of the first charge, another 400+ and the second charge is still going strong.
    About the same here - no issues whatsoever and so far so good.
    Admittedly, I don't shoot in C-AF mode often and when I do it's C-AF w/ Tracking.

    All the best.
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    Re: Hello Olympus

    Same here, you can't beat early adopters for destructive testing a new product

    Cheers

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    Re: Hello Olympus

    Quote Originally Posted by les View Post
    Everyone will have their own wish list - but focus peaking and a functional bracketing solution would probably be a reasonable start. It could be argued that functions like these should have been there from day one.
    Agreed, especially for the bracketing solution !
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    Just read the above and realised just how an Aussie might read it!!

    "trust the b****y wingeing Poms to find something wrong with this excellent little camera"!
    Hehe, I am an Aussie but I've recently researched my ancestry and have a large number of Pom ancestors across the eons as does my wife, so I won't be complaining.

    I would like to see a few things. Although I am not a big video guy I feel the EM5 is tied down with lack of clean HDMI output and with limited modes.

    IF a clean uncompressed HDMI was offered for hard drive recording this combined with the in body optical stabilization would have the video crowd flock to the EM5. Some say the IBIS in the EM5 is so good it almost negates needing a steadycam rig. A 24p and some 30p/60p modes would be enough. I bet its all in there just needs the FW to turn it on.
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    Re: Hello Olympus

    GIVE US FOCUS PEAKING ON OMD EM5

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmbma View Post
    GIVE US FOCUS PEAKING ON OMD EM5
    Somehow, that doesn't seem to be as straightforward as people seem to think. Panasonic "promised" to look into it after it became apparent that there was a need for it on the GH3 (during an interview with some top development guy in connection with the launch), but nothing has appeared so far.

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    Possibly - although I'm sure a solution could be tailored to the resources (processor speed, RAM etc) to bring focus peaking to the E-M5.

    I agree though, it's more likely to continue improving following the E-M1 in the E-M5 successor.

    As we know, bodies continue to advance in features and performance due to advances in processing (lens design) electronics, manufacture and materials (nano technology) - I'm just keen that we have reasonable firmware support for the hardware we buy.

    It's why we have a number of nexus devices in our household - ongoing upgrades are a big factor.

    Cheers

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    Re: Hello Olympus

    I would be happy if they just included a proper hood (please make it reversible) and pouch with every lens you buy from them, and it would be really nice if the hood (that you have to buy separately) and lens body were available in the same color.

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    Re: Hello Olympus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Somehow, that doesn't seem to be as straightforward as people seem to think. Panasonic "promised" to look into it after it became apparent that there was a need for it on the GH3 (during an interview with some top developmentrobably knows guy in connection with the launch), but nothing has appeared so far.
    As everyone probably knows, manual focus has been one of the weaknesses of the Fuji X system. The software upgrade for both the X100 and the XPro1 includes focus peaking to improve this feature. So it can be done retrospectively although it may be more difficult on some cameras than others

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