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    Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Available now. Just finished installing on my camera. Now to see if I see any differences ... :-)

    Ver.1.1 (Nov. 28 2013)

    - Compensation for chromatic aberration is supported when using the E-M1 and Panasonicís LUMIX G VARIO 14- 140mm/F3.5-5.6 ASPH./POWER O.I.S. (H-FS14140) together.

    - Stabilization of shooting in the Sports mode and Children mode of the SCN mode or C-AF has been improved.

    - Live bulb image quality while noise reduction is on has been improved.

    - Improved AF operation.
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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    I hate doing a firmware upgrade the Olympus way;
    I live down the end of a country lane with not the most stable internet connection :-(
    My EM-5 upgrade seemed to take an eternity whilst my fingers were very crossed that the connection didn't drop!!!

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    I hate doing a firmware upgrade the Olympus way;
    I live down the end of a country lane with not the most stable internet connection :-(
    My EM-5 upgrade seemed to take an eternity whilst my fingers were very crossed that the connection didn't drop!!!
    I can't agree more. I despise the need for a dedicated software upgrading application and a solid internet connection just to update some firmware, even though I live in an area where good connection is a given.

    The update this morning didn't take very long for me to complete, but it's always a harrowing, nail-biting few minutes of waiting to see how long the download will take, whether the process completes without a problem, and hoping that the camera will not end up a brick at the end of it.

    It's the one thing about working with Olympus digital cameras that I truly, seriously hate. :-\

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    hmmm ,one would have thought they would improve the live bulb quality while the noise reduction is off since the issues with the EM1 is that the sensor seems noisir than then EM5 with noise reduction off and long exposures of over 60 seconds

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    I hate doing a firmware upgrade the Olympus way;
    I live down the end of a country lane with not the most stable internet connection :-(
    My EM-5 upgrade seemed to take an eternity whilst my fingers were very crossed that the connection didn't drop!!!


    I guess as long as we do firmware updates for the EM1 while it is within it's warranty period, we at least have a fallback option if something does go wrong.

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    hmmm ,one would have thought they would improve the live bulb quality while the noise reduction is off since the issues with the EM1 is that the sensor seems noisir than then EM5 with noise reduction off and long exposures of over 60 seconds
    bolded: I have no idea whether this is true or not. I think the longest exposure I've used with the E-M1 so far is 30 seconds, and it performed very nicely.

    That it might be an "issue" is something that might affect 0.5% of the cameras users, I suspect.

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    I am unsure either as I have not had the opportunity to try long exposures with EM!

    here is the discussion

    E-M1 vs. E-M5 Noise/Hot Pixels at long exposure

    There must be more discussion with regards to this issue since Olympus is attempting to address this possible in this firmware update.

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Available now. Just finished installing on my camera. Now to see if I see any differences ... :-)

    Ver.1.1 (Nov. 28 2013)

    - Compensation for chromatic aberration is supported when using the E-M1 and Panasonic’s LUMIX G VARIO 14- 140mm/F3.5-5.6 ASPH./POWER O.I.S. (H-FS14140) together.

    - Stabilization of shooting in the Sports mode and Children mode of the SCN mode or C-AF has been improved.

    - Live bulb image quality while noise reduction is on has been improved.

    - Improved AF operation.

    Many thanks Godfrey. My update was successful.

    With best regards, K-H.

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    I think I will do some before and after tests with long exposure with my lens cap on, to see what differences this 1.1 firmware actually does

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    If you're that concerned with pixel noise quality at 1 minute and longer exposures ... !!

    I mean, if I bought the E-M1 for astrophotography, it would be a concern. But why bother with such stuff when you just turn on dark frame reduction and it goes away?

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    True, but the discussion mentions how the EM5 seems to not have as much noise for long exposure shots with noise reduction turned off.

    I know using exposures longer than 60 seconds will be used quite infrequently, but it is always nice to know there option is there.

    Yes you are right, turning on the dark frame reduction will eliminate most of this noise, but, when capturing star trails, sometimes multiple exposures may be required. And the time taken for the dark frame processing, would mean there would be a gap in the trail everytime the camera does a second dark frame exposure.

    I just think it is quite strange that the EM5 results on that forum show less noise than EM1, which is designed to be a newer better sensor.
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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    True, but the discussion mentions how the EM5 seems to not have as much noise for long exposure shots with noise reduction turned off.

    I know using exposures longer than 60 seconds will be used quite infrequently, but it is always nice to know there option is there.

    Yes you are right, turning on the dark frame reduction will eliminate most of this noise, but, when capturing star trails, sometimes multiple exposures may be required. And the time taken for the dark frame processing, would mean there would be a gap in the trail everytime the camera does a second dark frame exposure.

    I just think it is quite strange that the EM5 results on that forum show less noise than EM1, which is designed to be a newer better sensor.
    I wonder whether this could be due to the pixels used for phase detect ?

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Did my update today, so far I do not recognize any changes, which may be because I almost never used C-AF so far. Anyway I am very happy with my EM1 and my whole m43 system!
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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    ... I just think it is quite strange that the EM5 results on that forum show less noise than EM1, which is designed to be a newer better sensor.
    "Better" is a qualitative assessment which depends upon what criteria you're judging against. The E-M1 sensor is a new design, rather different from the E-M5 sensor, which incorporates PDAF senscells for improved capability in the direction of supporting the SLR lens line. Whether its extended duration capture is as good as the E-M5 sensor, itself a state of the art piece on introduction a year and some back, is probably a lower priority in the design than the PDAF capabilities.

    The E-M1 surely support AF operation with FT lenses FAR FAR better than the E-M5. If it gives up some long-duration noise quality in the process, and if that's most important to you, well, buy the E-M5. It's not out of production. For long duration exposures like this, AF is almost entirely irrelevant ... certainly the hallmark of PDAF support that everyone shooting Birds In Flight seems to be clamoring for is CAF and CAF+tr operation with fast sequence capture.

    No one device can do all things best.

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Did my update today, so far I do not recognize any changes, which may be because I almost never used C-AF so far. Anyway I am very happy with my EM1 and my whole m43 system!
    Same here!

    I carried the E-M1 and one of my Polaroid Spectra cameras to Thanksgiving Dinner at my friends'. The E-M1 was fitted with the Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 and acquitted itself with distinction ... both for its ability to be controlled remotely when we shot the usual event group photo, and for the quality of the dinner spread and out-takes it captured with a sure ease that was delightful. The Spectra filled with Impossible Color Shade film did its usual fun thing too.

    I'm quite delighted with the E-M1 and the FourThirds system. Lots of other equipment is going to be sold off ... I don't need it any more, and I'd rather concentrate on less equipment and more photos. :-)

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    BTW while I was in update mode, I updated all my m43 system, as far as updates were available. Everything went fast and smooth!

    Also tried the Pana-Leica 1.4/25 but unfortunately there was no new FW available. Still the original version 1.0

    I do hope for an update soon, which hopefully would eliminate the lens chatter (from aperture blades)!

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    BTW while I was in update mode, I updated all my m43 system, as far as updates were available. Everything went fast and smooth!

    Also tried the Pana-Leica 1.4/25 but unfortunately there was no new FW available. Still the original version 1.0

    I do hope for an update soon, which hopefully would eliminate the lens chatter (from aperture blades)!
    Can the Olympus updater program actually find and load Pansonic (Leica) lens updates?

    I know that it can usually find an update for mZuiko lenses.
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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    Can the Olympus updater program actually find and load Pansonic (Leica) lens updates?

    I know that it can usually find an update for mZuiko lenses.
    I assume it can - at least it could for the Leica 43 lenses

    Joint update service for OLYMPUS E-SYSTEM - OLYMPUS Digital Camera

    hope that did not change for m43

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    Can the Olympus updater program actually find and load Pansonic (Leica) lens updates? ...
    The Olympus updater has worked in the past for Panasonic-Leica lenses when I was shooting with the E-5.

    The version of lens firmware in my Summilux-DG 25 and Macro-Elmarit-DG 45 match the latest listed on the Panasonic website, and it lists them, so it looks like it still does.

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Thank you Peter and Godfrey, that is a great m4/3 service in every way!
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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    Thank you Peter and Godfrey, that is a great m4/3 service in every way!
    It's great that they're working together.

    I just wish I could download a firmware update and install it the way I do with every other system, independent of my camera being connected while the computer and network do their thing. :-\

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    It's great that they're working together.

    I just wish I could download a firmware update and install it the way I do with every other system, independent of my camera being connected while the computer and network do their thing. :-\

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Having to use Olympus Viewer to update the OM-D cameras seems pretty clunky to me, compared to just putting a new firmware file on an SDHC chip but it occurred to me that this may be a requirement if you are going to update firmware on a lens as well as on the body. And it does perform a web check to see if there have been any updates. I discovered an update I missed on one lens when I was installing 1.1 in my E-M1.

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    just updated my E-M1 to 1.1 firmware, and it was like hold your breath and hope for good luck. Having to plug in via USB and while requiring a good internet connection, plus stable computer just adds so many variables that can go wrong during the update!

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    But isn't it great that we can also update our lenses as well whilst the camera is still hooked up!
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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    I am actually pretty happy with the way of updating m43 gear!

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    But isn't it great that we can also update our lenses as well whilst the camera is still hooked up!
    Ricoh uses downloadable firmware updates with the GXR. Each time they've issued an update, the package includes all the updates for body and each of the six camera units ... just fit body and camera unit together, run the update, swap to the next camera unit, run the update, and so on.

    No need to have to disconnect camera after one heart stopping update, then reconnect and go through it the mounting, network search, etc, for each lens in turn.

    What about the guy I was helping just the other day who has an E-1 that was still on firmware 1.0? Olympus dropped support for the older models, despite that they are still perfectly usable cameras, with their updaters in 2007-2008. The only way to update now is to use the Studio 2 application, itself discontinued, which is buggy and unstable on Apple systems.

    If the firmware update scheme was downloadable update modules like everyone else, all that would be needed is for someone to give him a copy of the fw updates ... As it is, he needed to go through hoops to figure out how to configure a computer system, obtain the buggy/discontinued application, and then HOPE that doing the update wouldn't turn his nice E-1 into an inert lump.

    I really really really dislike the "live only" update scheme. No one will ever convince me that this is the right way to manage my camera equipment, which even in this digital age will likely outlast any given computer system I have by more than two to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    But isn't it great that we can also update our lenses as well whilst the camera is still hooked up!
    That is definitely a pro using Olympus updater. I just feel nervous that I may turn my E-M1 into a brick should anything go wrong. Also with all the warning messages, like having to use direct USB connection and not through a USB hub, and preferably the use of Windows that came preinstalled on a PC is recommended does not put much confidence in the update method.

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Godfrey, I think it is just you and me that wishes for an offline method of updating our cameras. Call us old school, guess we just like to reduce the odds of bricking our gear.

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    Godfrey, I think it is just you and me that wishes for an offline method of updating our cameras. Call us old school, guess we just like to reduce the odds of bricking our gear.
    I hear you, but how often did it happen, if ever ?
    Crossing the street is probably more risky

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    Re: Olympus E-M1 firmware update 1.1 ...

    Godfrey here again another forum thread for interesting reading. Not sure if it is credible, but it does seem that the E-M5 has something very special about that sensor and long exposure low noise without dark frame subtraction noise reduction.

    http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3585347

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