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    Is the G1 available body only?

    I am very tempted to try some M lenses on it, but not any of the kit zooms. I haven't seen an option to buy just the body, has anyone else? thanks...Peter

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Unfortunately not, but the 14-45 is worth having imho.

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    thanks Brian. Also, I understand cameraquest has an M adapter. Does John Militch as well, and is there any thing to choose between them?

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    The Cameraquest adapter which we believe is being made by Rayqual is not yet available.

    John has two different adapters both made out of bronze one is for M mount Lenses and the other for thread mount. He is planning a bit of redesign on the M mount from some user feedback.

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Thanks Terry

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Hi Peter
    Novoflex also make an adapter which is available, and works okay, but has the irritation that you have to take the adaptor off the camera to change lenses.

    As for the kit lens, the 14-45 only costs a few quid, and it's really very very good - certainly worth paying for just in case you might want autofocus and image stabilisation.

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    Thanks Jono- What's one more lens anyway? ;>) best.....Peter

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    It's a damn shame when you want to buy a second body for the 45-200, or some other lens.

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    The original plan from Panny when it was announced was to have 3 variations:
    Body only
    Body + 14-45
    body + 14-45 and 45-200

    Perhaps they are still filling the channel with the one lens kit or potentially waiting for the new body that can do video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innerimager View Post
    thanks Brian. Also, I understand cameraquest has an M adapter. Does John Militch as well, and is there any thing to choose between them?
    http://www.doiop.com/g1adapters

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    The original plan from Panny when it was announced was to have 3 variations:
    Body only
    Body + 14-45
    body + 14-45 and 45-200

    Perhaps they are still filling the channel with the one lens kit or potentially waiting for the new body that can do video.
    That's interesting Terry, I had asked my dealer to find out about this and he reported back that no, Panasonic would not be selling the body alone. Perhaps there is hope after all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    The original plan from Panny when it was announced was to have 3 variations:
    Body only
    Body + 14-45
    body + 14-45 and 45-200

    Perhaps they are still filling the channel with the one lens kit or potentially waiting for the new body that can do video.
    The possibility of a video equipped G1 may keep me on the sidelines till it comes out, but this baby is hard to resist....Peter

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    The G1 is an entirely brand new camera type and the assumption would be that no one has lenses for it yet. The use of adapters is an exception, and not likely not an important part of the business model. I would guess that distributors would also prefer to only sell kits at this point.

    And agreed, the G1 kit lens is a very good one, and small and light. What's not to like.

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Quote Originally Posted by innerimager View Post
    The possibility of a video equipped G1 may keep me on the sidelines till it comes out, but this baby is hard to resist....Peter
    I was thinking the same thing at first, but given the popularity of the initial offering and all of our positive comments, I would expect to see a price increase for the video version when it ships
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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    I'm expecting the G1HD to be quite a high powered version of the G1, with a price tag to match. Not interested in video - but salivating at the possibilities the extra horsepower may bring to the straight photography... Silent shutter? High speed burst mode? Smooth continuous EVF? What about storage... will SDHC be fast enough?

    I'm really enjoying the G1, but the G1HD is the one to watch IMHO. As well as the Olympus offering.

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Quote Originally Posted by innerimager View Post
    The possibility of a video equipped G1 may keep me on the sidelines till it comes out, but this baby is hard to resist....Peter
    HI Peter
    I think the Olympus possibilities are a better reason to wait - much smaller, probably with sensor stabilisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innerimager View Post
    I am very tempted to try some M lenses on it, but not any of the kit zooms. I haven't seen an option to buy just the body, has anyone else? thanks...Peter
    They sell the body alone here in Japan. The price is 69,800 yen (at Yodobashi). However, the Panasonic cameras sold in Japan are locked in Japanese mode and can't be switched to any other language.

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Jono- I'm in the dark about the Olys, but any smaller might start to be too little of a good thing, my hands are big.

    Bill- Interesting, another reason to learn Japanese. Would that I could.
    best...Peter

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    I'm a bit confused . Everyone is waiting for the Oly solution.

    They showed a mock-up at Photokina but I can't imagine how this competes with the G1 if you want to shoot Leica or other MF lenses. Unless they plan on introducing a completely different model or they make an EVF that fits in the hot shoe, I don't know how you would use the camera. Hold it out in front of you with one hand and try to both focus and change the aperture with the other -- all while looking at the LCD?

    So while it looks like it could be a great camera for small primes, they would need to be AF lenses.
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    Just the post I've been wanting to see for a few months.

    If I see another post about 'waiting for the oly' I'm going to link to post 19 of this thread.

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Here is an interesting purported camera design from Panasonic that is probably not real but fun to look at for ideas.
    Last edited by barjohn; 23rd August 2009 at 20:55.
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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    A few more interesting images.
    Last edited by barjohn; 23rd August 2009 at 20:55.
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    I have to add my voice to those saying "yes" to the kit lens. It's proven itself to be very good indeed to my eye.

    Brian: The other item surrounding the HD version is the14-140mm lens! I'm waiting for that baby big time - let's hope it's as good as the Leica 14-150...

    Cheers,
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    Those sure seem like highly polished images if they're fakes! Most "fan fakes" that I'm familiar with have been much less detail obsessed.

    Very VERY interesting indeed!

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    Oh, we get from Pana also a new hot shoe?

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I'm a bit confused . Everyone is waiting for the Oly solution.

    They showed a mock-up at Photokina but I can't imagine how this competes with the G1 if you want to shoot Leica or other MF lenses. Unless they plan on introducing a completely different model or they make an EVF that fits in the hot shoe, I don't know how you would use the camera. Hold it out in front of you with one hand and try to both focus and change the aperture with the other -- all while looking at the LCD?

    So while it looks like it could be a great camera for small primes, they would need to be AF lenses.
    Indeed; I donīt expect much from that Olympus either if itīs anything like the mockup.

    Before buying the G1, I took some hard looks at the Olympus 520, so size wasnīt a problem for me (as long as it was significantly smaller and lighter than my Nikon D200). What won me over to the G1 was exactly the combination of a big, bright, swivelling LCD plus a big, bright "eye level" finder (whatever it is called). By then, I wasnīt fully aware of the possiblities of using legacy lenses, so that didnīt influence my decision, but now Iīm happy itīs there.

    I couldnīt be less interested in video either; certainly the G1 could be improved, but if video is top-of-the-list for Pans marketing, Iīm happy I got my G1 before "improvements". All that really needs to be done to it can be fixed via firmware, and Panasonic actually seem to listen to us (thx to Brian!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by barjohn View Post
    A few more interesting images.
    Summilux & f/2.4 on a lens? HERESY!
    Lovely looking camera though

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    What intrigues me is the "W" and "T" markings just behind the shutter which seem to clash mechanically with the Manual/Auto Focus idea on the collar. It seems they've not quite made up their mind as to whether design the end product towards the mass point and shoot market or go with the basic use this type of forum member would advocate.

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    As I understand it these are fake designs and their lack of knowledge of what Sumilux means is one of the giveaways. Originals may have come from China or Japan, there seems to be some confusion; however, I posted them up because it does show a different design idea. I still would prefer my EVF built in to a hot shoe arrangement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barjohn View Post
    ... and their lack of knowledge of what Summilux means is one of the giveaways.
    I still would prefer my EVF built in to a hot shoe arrangement.
    Hmm, methinks the publicity boys know well enough that a "lux" suffix packs more punch than the largely unknown "Elmarit" word or one ending in "cron".

    If they go for the little box on the left that pops up I'd much prefer it to be an "onboard" EVF thus keeping the large LCD and the smooth lines ā la M8 and do away with what I suppose it is - a flash, the hotshoe is quite the adequate place for it if need be; besides, that way they'd have another accessory to sell for it.

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    So is that 12-42 an electronic zoom lens?

    Kind of like a DLUX-5 / LX4 with big sensor and interchangeable lenses.

    Hmmm..... very interesting

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    There were 'similar' pix going the rounds a few months ago; it turned out they were the dreams of a Japanese designer -- there was similar confusion with lens names. Dreams, not fakes.
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    Right, these are from the same fellow, and they are his dreams, not fakes.

    Back to the original topic, I'd like to see a body only or body + 20/1.7 kit. I've no interest in paying a few bucks extra for the 14-45.

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    it's a very good lens amin, fine for street shooting.

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Panasonic shows it available as body only, body plus 14-45 and body plus 14-45 and 45-200. Here is the link to the site.
    http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/syste...gms/index.html
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    They could use a proofreader.


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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    They could use a proofreader.

    Nah. It's just a subliminal plug for Luminous Landscape.
    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/images...es/biggrin.gif

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    John,

    Even if tney're fantasy drawings...what cool design taste. And if it is true, and an exercise sanctioned by Panasonic, it bodes well for the next generation mft.The seem to have a very well-honed, modern 'European' design sense.

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Couldn't they put the hot shoe where the pop up flash resides? or better yet, include the EVF within the camera at that top left position?

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Actually, the electronics and optics package for the EVF take a fair amount of space, hence the hump on the G1. Here are some images.
    Last edited by barjohn; 23rd August 2009 at 20:55.
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    John, I couldn't find any reference to body only on the link you posted. Do you have a direct link or a screen shot?

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Quote Originally Posted by barjohn View Post
    Actually, the electronics and optics package for the EVF take a fair amount of space, hence the hump on the G1. Here are some images.
    Yes, granted... but that's only rev 1

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Couldn't they put the hot shoe where the pop up flash resides? or better yet, include the EVF within the camera at that top left position?

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnastovall View Post
    Better yet, they leave off the pop-up flash.
    Yes, that's what I was thinking & inferring.

    I'd rather have some fast primes!

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    i'd like a second body but have no need for a second kit lens and have not found a seller who sells body only.

    any one else have any luck with finding a body only seller?

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    Re: Is the G1 available body only?

    My dealer was willing to do so but the difference was so minimal ($60) that I went ahead and bought a second kit. I reasoned that should I ever want to sell the G1s, I'd have a complete set. For now, the second 14-45 sits unpacked in the box.

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    only a 60 buck difference?

    not really worth it...

    maybe i'll wait on the oly


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