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    G1 and 90AA Leica M

    Had a chance to try it out this weekend in San Francisco. I think it was at f/4. I am still a little slow at getting focus but it is working. Frank

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    very nice!....Peter

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    Thanks Peter. The web image does not do it justice. Not even close. I am sitting here looking at a 9x12 print out of Qimage. I have never had this quality of a print with Nikon or Canon. The detail is wonderful and the color spectacular. This lens is amazing on the G1. Frank

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    Told you the weather was going to be spectacular and you sure took advantage of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine View Post
    Thanks Peter. The web image does not do it justice. Not even close. I am sitting here looking at a 9x12 print out of Qimage. I have never had this quality of a print with Nikon or Canon. The detail is wonderful and the color spectacular. This lens is amazing on the G1. Frank
    Frank - I have the wonderful 90 AA. Pics like yours ensure the G1 will get to ride it in the near future. best...Peter

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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    Spectacular image and color.
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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    What is being said about the G1 is true. Color accuracy is high. Thanks.

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    Be nice to see a direct comparison between the leica and panasonic lenses of the same image;here is a rare and real opportunity to literaly see what weve all paid so much money for.

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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    Quote Originally Posted by nei1 View Post
    Be nice to see a direct comparison between the leica and panasonic lenses of the same image;here is a rare and real opportunity to literaly see what weve all paid so much money for.
    Here is one: http://www.outbackphoto.com/CONTENT_..._G1/index.html

    So far (got the adapter a few days ago) my experiences are very similar, but I havenīt any direct comparisons ready.

    Actually, the kit lens is very, very good. The main difference, of course, is the shallower depth of field possible with faster lenses. And then, there are lots and lots of old lenses, all with their unique ways of drawing an image.

    So IMHO the value of these adapters isnīt to get something "better" than the kit lens (whatever that means), but to get other options altogether.

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    Thanks Per,Im finding this fascinating,never was a pixel peeper before,another sign of advancing years I guess.

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    Comparison to Kit lens

    Not an exact comparison. Kit lens at 66mm (35 format) f/5.4. Colors are very close. Not quite as sharp, but it is a kit zoom. Still very good printed.

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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    The 90AA is SWEET. But actually the shot with the kit lens is QUITE good too. Love the bird! (Not near any airports are you?)

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    To see anything I think the photos will have to be enlarged quite a bit,I dont expect to see any massive improvement with the leica glass,law of diminishing returns etc,but there should be a difference and just maybe it will be possible to actually see what it is that "is" leica,that transparent bit of nothing that transforms a photo......or maybe not.

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    I agree Neil. As I stated in my post, the web image does not do it justice. I don't do photography for the web, I do it for print. You should see the 9x12 printout. It is outstanding. I have owned a lot of Nikon and Canon's best. The 90 AA beats them all. The color, contrast, detail, sharpness, etc. It really is that good. The G1 is meeting a lot of peoples expectations for high quality output.

    Peter - live near airports??? Frank

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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    Little trick folks for the web do very little sharpening if any. I actually have nice results at processing my files with a low sharpness applied and make them for the web than add any extra sharpening after the fact for print or clients as needed but go very light on sharpening for the web and 900 pixels at the longest length and srgb for web stuff. Bottom line I process the large Tifs at 16 bit with low sharpening as my finals to store than add what I need later but make my web stuff from those original Tif finals since they have low sharpening.
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    Good points to bring up Guy. Regarding sharpening I've also noticed that the G1, with it's relatively weaker AA filter, can't take as much sharpening for the web as most Olympus DSLR images can. The E-3 is, in my view, significantly softer than the G1 but that's not a criticism because it won't paint jaggies on things like rigging and edges as quickly as the G1 will. On the other hand I'd have to go with the G1 for landscape shots.

    The switch to LCD monitors has really upped the game in this regard because they're so much sharper than our lovely old CRTs used to be.

    Finally, the resizing algorithm used can help to mitigate jaggies and/or aliasing artifacts in web sized images as well. I use a Lanczos algorithm for resizing (in FastStone) as I think it does the best all around job but many popular editors do not feature that algorithm (for example CS3 does not but I suspect the new CS4 has added it).

    Just a few of my thoughts on the subject - sorry for the thread drift.

    That 90mm Leica shot is simply lovely! Colors and contrast are out of this world!

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    I agree as well. I'd found that files out of the camera are so good that when you applied the 'standard' sharpening to them with PSE it over did it...so I just do it just a 'tad'. And have been very happy.

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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    When you say 90AA what lens do you mean? Is this a 90 Summicron M or something else.

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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    the lens has apocromatic and aspherical elements. The latest version of this lens I believe.

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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    Taken a couple of days ago... Mixed Russian Blue.

    Lens: M 90 AA @ F2.
    Resize, adjusted the lighting (Made it slightly darker) and post.

    This lens seems to find its way on to my M8 & G1...

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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    Wow. A great lens. Nice shot.

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    Re: G1 and 90AA Leica M

    "Wolverine"... Thank you. the M 90 AA Cron is a great lens on any M (film or digital) and on the G1. On the G1, it is a 180mm f2. The R 180 f2 cost twice as much and weighs three times more

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmr View Post
    "Wolverine"... Thank you. the M 90 AA Cron is a great lens on any M (film or digital) and on the G1. On the G1, it is a 180mm f2. The R 180 f2 cost twice as much and weighs three times more

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    So the world is changing from "interchangeable lenses" to "interchangeable backs" ??

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